The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered - Official Trailer (Available Today!) (www.youtube.com)
from simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:21
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simple@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 15:21 next collapse

It looks great, and it’s AVAILABLE TODAY! The rumors were (unsurprisingly) right on the money, it was a shadowdrop.

Edit: Official 20 minute showcase is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk5cymSWmqo

Asafum@feddit.nl on 22 Apr 16:10 collapse

I’m so happy to have been wrong about the shadow drop! Now I just need to get through the rest of the day at work lol

simple@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 16:19 collapse

You and me both, but at least I’ll see first impressions before I get back home.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 15:28 next collapse

Looks amazing, definitely gonna pick this up.

Edited to add further thoughts

Having a deluxe edition of a remaster feels bad, though I don’t completely begrudge them. It was still a lot of work, time, and effort to do this.

I kinda love releases like this with no build up. I know that this was leaked but I mean compared to six years of announcement to release, I much prefer this kind of shadow drop.

TommySoda@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:42 next collapse

A deluxe edition does seem a little lame for a remaster. But at the same time the deluxe edition is still cheaper than Starfield and I’d much rather play this.

[deleted] on 22 Apr 19:11 next collapse

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samus12345@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 19:34 collapse

If this were a Nintendo game it’d be $80 for the base and $90 for Deluxe.

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:57 collapse

How much is the horse armor?

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 16:15 next collapse

$10. I’m not joking. It’s a part of the deluxe edition.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 16:18 collapse

Yes and no. All original dlc is included in the base game, including the infamous horse armour.

The Deluxe Edition adds art book, OST, and some new weapon, armours, and yes horse armours not in the original game.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 16:20 next collapse

Included in the game. Deluxe edition adds new horse armours (among a few other things).

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Apr 22:11 collapse

Included. The Deluxe edition adds some new gear, but all the old content (including the old DLC) is available in the base game.

TommySoda@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:40 next collapse

I straight up got emotional during the trailer and announcement stream. Oblivion was the first RPG of this kind that I ever played and was one of my favorite games in middle school. Hopefully it’s a stable release because I wanna play that shit as soon as I get home from work.

krebssteven@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:41 next collapse

… now do it with Morrowind. I dare you. I double dare you!

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:54 next collapse

There is the Skywind project, but I’m not sure if any progress has been made in the last year

tesrskywind.com

[deleted] on 22 Apr 19:13 collapse

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1SimpleTailor@startrek.website on 22 Apr 19:23 next collapse

Morrowind would be a whole different beast to remaster. Not saying I wouldn’t enjoy some better graphics and tweaked systems, but it would be a hard sell to most gamers if they only did that.

-no voice acting -outdated gameplay systems -Game map that wasn’t designed with unlimited draw distance, fast travel, or even unlimited running in mind.

Honestly at this point it would be better served by a full remake.

grue@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 21:55 next collapse

Morrowind has plenty of fast travel. In fact, it has better fast-travel than later Elder Scrolls games because it’s actually integrated into the gameplay.

FenrirIII@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 07:15 next collapse

Sky walking was so much fun. Not always faster, but fun

grue@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 11:00 collapse

It was also neat that the game was designed for it (Telvanni towers, secrets in high places, etc.).

Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Apr 15:24 next collapse

Agreed. Super convenient fast travel takes something away from the game. It turns an adventure into a handful of loading screens, which is egregious in Starfield because “travel through space” boiled down to “here’s 4 more loading screens every single time you want to do anything.”

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 15:27 collapse

skyrim has carriages and boats though

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 12:08 next collapse

Yes, that’s why you’d make it a remaster; to fix all of those things.

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 14:36 collapse

Modern mods fix almost all of those issues.
The game can easily be ‘remastered’.

figjam@midwest.social on 22 Apr 21:42 collapse

Can we just have 6 instead?

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Apr 23:38 collapse

No. Oblivion remastered. Then Skyrim Special Oblivion Remastered Anniversary Edition. Then Starfield Remastered.

rdri@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 23:44 collapse

Then Oblivion Remastered 2 since the current one will be outdated by that time.

Zombiepirate@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:42 next collapse

The Oblivion score is so good.

Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 20:27 next collapse

Jeremy Soule did amazing work. Unfortunately it turned out he was a terrible person and he was blacklisted from the industry after multiple allegations were made against him during the #MeToo movement.

morphballganon@mtgzone.com on 22 Apr 21:13 next collapse

Oh that sucks

overload@sopuli.xyz on 22 Apr 23:14 next collapse

Yeah that was really disappointing

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 15:28 collapse

i thought those were just alleged

gamer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 14:38 collapse

It always reminded me of the Pirates of the Caribbean theme

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:50 next collapse

Looking at Steam it looks like they locked the expansions behind the deluxe edition?

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 22 Apr 15:59 next collapse

Yep, they did…it’s pretty shitty.

Though it’s only $10 upgrade, whether you choose now or later. But still, for a 19 year old game, come on man.

Apparently I was reading this wrong.

Here’s the poster from Steam

<img alt="" src="https://hilariouschaos.com/pictrs/image/d14ff09c-fa46-4b27-b871-be4ed9378565.webp">

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 16:27 collapse

They have not, actually.

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 22 Apr 16:45 collapse

Thanks for the correction. I was reading the poster on Steam incorrectly, it seems.

<img alt="" src="https://hilariouschaos.com/pictrs/image/df22ea8f-fc8a-4b2f-b86e-410fe9169523.webp">

So all the stuff on the left is in the base purchase but all the stuff on the right is the extras in the deluxe

samus12345@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 18:25 collapse

It’s poorly done, possibly to trick people into thinking they have to get the Deluxe version to get the expansions.

troed@fedia.io on 22 Apr 16:16 next collapse

This is what it says for the deluxe edition on the PS Store:

"Upgrade* from the digital base game to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered Deluxe Edition* to receive:

  • Unique digital Akatosh and Mehrunes Dagon Armors, Weapons, and Horse Armor Sets

  • Digital Artbook and Soundtrack App

*Base game required, sold separately"

Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 16:37 next collapse
MHLoppy@fedia.io on 22 Apr 19:59 collapse

Wow, they literally added more horse armor lol

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 16:19 next collapse

Every publication I’ve read says the DLCs are all included in the base game. Deluxe adds new cosmetics, OST, and an art book.

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Apr 22:17 collapse

Nope, the old DLC is available in the base game. The Deluxe edition adds some new armor (and yes, new horse armor) but isn’t necessary to access the old DLC.

De_Narm@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 15:57 next collapse

Did they change anything meaningful, like removing that aweful level scaling?

psx_crab@lemmy.zip on 22 Apr 16:00 collapse

They did, but to what end we might find out just a few hours from now. Seems like minigame stay the same, but the combat is revamped

Edit: ohh wait i don’t think they mentioned scaling, but just the levelling is changed.

Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 16:51 collapse

All of the games have scaling of some kind (at least Morrowind and Skyrim do). Just as long as they make suboptimal builds viable rather than punishing, that’s all I need.

Sepix@feddit.org on 22 Apr 16:03 next collapse

Sweet, never played it and have it in my backlog, so a remaster helps :)

piefood@feddit.online on 22 Apr 16:07 next collapse

All I get from these links is "Sign in to confirm your age"

lolno

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 14:46 collapse

It’s YouTube…

piefood@feddit.online on 23 Apr 17:15 collapse

Right, I see that, and I also see the piped.video link. I don't think I understand the point you are trying to make? Can you clarify?

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 19:20 collapse

Ask your parents to turn off parental controls? Idk.

piefood@feddit.online on 23 Apr 20:45 collapse

My point is that, if you are going to send me advertisements, at least make them easy for me to see. WTF would I jump through hoops to see an ad?

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 00:31 collapse

What are you talking about? Use an adblocker, dummy. Lol

JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 16:08 next collapse

Even though I have been gaming since Pong (my first game console), I have never played any Elder Scrolls games. This trailer’s voice over is new to me, and it is so strange and nostalgic to hear Patrick Stewart’s young and vibrant voice on the trailer for a game released this morning.

RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 17:48 collapse

Haha, I wondered at first if that was Patrick Stewart, and then decided it wasn’t. Glad I was wrong.

samus12345@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 19:46 next collapse

He’s almost the age of the emperor now.

Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 20:31 collapse

90% of Oblivion’s voice acting budget must have gone to paying for Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean to say a few dozen lines. It’s long been a meme that basically every other person in Cyrodill shares the same six or seven voice actors.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 16:39 next collapse

£50 for the game I already paid for, just with better graphics? No, thank you.

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FelixCress@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 19:59 collapse

You need to actually look at the changes because that is completely wrong. They’ve made mechanical changes to the game.

Being what? Skyrim style fight? Fuck that. If they were to completly replace moronic, idiotic, retarded level scaling that would be a different conversation.

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FelixCress@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 20:20 collapse

They also changed other things including level progression

They have NOT changed retarded level scaling at all.

Go actually get informed before bashing your facing against the keyboard and spouting off your bigoted bullshit in the future

Go and give them your money again if you already paid for this game once, good sheep. 🙄

[deleted] on 23 Apr 00:08 collapse

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FelixCress@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 05:53 collapse

Now read a dictionary 🙄

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 16:45 next collapse

looks like im not finishing avowed 😂

Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 17:11 next collapse

I’m definitely trying the unreal engine VR injector the second the game is done downloading to see if that works!

TheBest@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 02:01 collapse

Would love to hear results if you do try it out!

Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works on 23 Apr 02:15 collapse

I’ve seen people get pretty good results but i don’t think i had the right settings so i wasn’t able to make it run. I have a 3090 wich is pretty much the minimum for that XD i also tried to run the game in 8K just to see how it would look with no luck. I ended up playing at 4K medium settings for now. I’ll definitely try again tomorrow with someone’s UEVR injector profile.

massive_bereavement@fedia.io on 22 Apr 17:14 next collapse

It's you! The hero of kvatch!

drmoose@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 17:52 next collapse

Got the weekend booked for this. Excited just roam around and see how things have changed. Seems like it runs flawlessly on Linux too!

Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 17:59 next collapse

Decisions, decisions: get this for my ps5, or wait until my pc build is done. Prob the latter, just need a couple more things and I’ve waited this long, what’s another couple weeks.

[deleted] on 22 Apr 19:12 next collapse

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BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works on 23 Apr 11:39 collapse

Honestly, taking into account how important modding is for the TES serie, I’d say it’s better to aim PC for this one.

samus12345@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 18:23 next collapse

I was never a huge fan of the base game (after Morrowind, the far more generic fantasy setting was underwhelming and I absolutely hated the Oblivion parts), but I loved the Shivering Isles expansion. Tempted to get it for that alone. The fugly character models needed to be redone BADLY, too.

Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 21:05 next collapse

Shivering Isles rivals Morrowind in my mind. It has a strange and unique setting and most of the content is incredibly well-written, which contrasts sharply with the standard medieval setting of baseline Oblivion (mandatory reminder that Cyrodiil was supposed to be a rainforest, but the devs retconned it to make development easier).

The other expansion, Knights of the Nine, was just a bunch of fetch quests to unlock an armor set and was disappointing in comparison to even the base game (though at least the final boss fight was cool). It also put behavioral tracking on the DLC’s rewards that would disable them if your character gained infamy, forcing you to repeat a bunch of boring travel quests to fix them whenever this happened. There’s a reason KotN never comes up in discussions about the game.

samus12345@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 21:21 collapse

Shivering Isles rivals Morrowind in my mind.

Same. It’s easily my favorite Elder Scrolls expansion, period.

mandatory reminder that Cyrodiil was supposed to be a rainforest

I never knew that. Shame the devs for this didn’t go for it, but I suppose fans would be up in arms about it.

EDIT: Apparently they actually DID add some rainforest-y looking locations!

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 22 Apr 23:49 collapse

The fugly character models needed to be redone BADLY, too.

I kinda wonder what the NPCs in that one village part of a quest that mimics Shadow Over Innsmouth look like in the remake… They’re supposed to be fugly 🤣

1SimpleTailor@startrek.website on 22 Apr 19:15 next collapse

What exactly has been changed besides the graphics? Sounds like they tweaked the melee combat to more resemble Skyrims.

Imo Oblivions two biggest problems were level scaling and how barren the world was between cities and dungeons.

Edit: I got it after watching more of the gameplay. It still feels like Oblivion, but there’s a lot of little tweaks that improve the experience. Combat and movement has more weight to it, so while the systems all effectively function the same it feels a lot less floaty then the original game. There’s a lot of small tweaks and QOL improvements, like the UI is reminiscent of the original but much more fluid. Cant comment on if they fixed level-scaling or not, as I’m only at level 3.

Make no mistake, this is 100% Oblivion. Its just a lot prettier and with a lot of small improvements. So far it seems like a rare modern Bethesda W.

GoodEye8@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 19:33 next collapse

I haven’t see how the level scaling works, but I’m assuming it works exactly like OG Oblivion for two reasons. First is that the underlying game logic is OG Oblivion and second, whether you liked it not, the level scaling was very much in the DNA of Oblivion so it kinda has to be there to feel like Oblivion. That said, the new leveling system looks like it might make the level scaling less horrid.

And so far from what I watched others play, the world is still as barren and boring as OG Oblivion. Personally I’m going wait for Skyblivion because the barren world was the main reason I didn’t enjoy Oblivion.

NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip on 22 Apr 19:45 collapse

Mods of the era largely fixed the scaling and the modern day best practices largely are based on that. Mortismal did a good video on Oblivion last year-ish where they talked about it but it mostly boils down to:

Just stop leveling in (if memory serves) the mid-late 20s. That more or less is what you will get with 60-70% of your levels coming from combat skills and is around where your DPS levels out. The mods of the time basically just tweak the leveled lists to plateau out similarly.

There was other more stylistic choices (stopping bandits from getting full daedric and glass gear) but that prevented the very common problem of “I didn’t optimize my build and now I can’t clear oblivion gates”

Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Apr 15:29 collapse

I just eventually got comfortable moving the difficulty slider whenever I needed. Any other game it feels like cheating, in OG Oblivion it felt required to not drive myself insane minmaxing

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 22 Apr 21:25 next collapse

They changed leveling, locomotion, added new voice lines to make all the races sound more unique, added more feedback to combat (hit animations, blood effects, sparks, and sounds; the actual combat mechanics look entirely unchanged)… And that’s just what they point out in the trailer.

bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social on 23 Apr 00:28 collapse

Gender no longer affects your stats either, they added in 2 origins that do that now

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 23 Apr 00:51 collapse

Gender had an effect on stats in the original?

lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 01:06 collapse

Yep, was the case in all TES games before Oblivion as well, typically more strength in starting male characters but more intelligence in female characters varying depending on the character’s race. Only went away in Skyrim as they’d simplified the stats so much that starting stats were more uniform.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 23 Apr 05:30 collapse

All I remember off-hand for what stats are affected in Skyrim is that Khajit start with 5 more points in Hand-to-Hand due to their claws 🤣

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 15:21 collapse

high elves start with more spells, magicka, and more skill points in some of the magic skill trees. they also can disguise themselves as a thalmor guard at the embassy and bypass the combat

dustyData@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 23:14 collapse

You can sprint now, so, there’s that.

icecreamtaco@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 19:24 next collapse

my steam download speed is so dead right now. rip their servers

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Apr 21:39 collapse

Maybe pause and start the download again, or try a different server? I just downloaded it at nearly full gigabit speeds.

Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone on 23 Apr 02:48 collapse

I live in Northern Australia in the capital of the Territory and have fiber to my premises, best o can get is 20mbs download.

I hate the Australian government for what they did rolling out our National Broadband Network

FippleStone@aussie.zone on 23 Apr 14:14 collapse

Bloody Malcolm Turnbull, classic Libs prioritising money over the public good

kratoz29@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 20:48 next collapse

I am pretty disconnected from this videogame series, is Oblivion now the best looking game from Bethesda? (It should be as it is the most recent game I suppose) Would you recommend it over Skyrim graphical and gaming/story wise? Would a new Skyrim remastered game with these assets would be near the horizon? lol.

scoobford@lemmy.zip on 22 Apr 23:49 next collapse

I’d argue that Skyrim represents a significant downgrade from earlier titles. The simplified mechanics and increased advertising budget made it more accessible, but the writing quality has been in free fall since morrowind.

That being said, this is probably their prettiest title now. I haven’t gotten to try it yet, but supposedly it is a ground up remake, and if it’s on a better engine it may be their least janky game too.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Apr 15:46 collapse

As much as I like Skyrim, I don’t think there’s a general consensus that the earlier games were better written.

Personally, until I played Phantom Liberty, the Shivering Isles was the best expansion I had ever played for any game. I’ll leave it to you to discover, if you get the game, but allow me to say it is delightful and different and a ton of fun.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 23:55 next collapse

Stoked to try this game, but I’m waiting a few months for a patch to the graphics issues.

Sarmyth@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 01:38 next collapse

It plays well on the steam deck day 1 as well, if that matters to anyone here. I played the first 2 hours on my deck from work with no issues.

Shaders took like 10 minutes but the rest of the load times were all fine.

MellowYellow13@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 13:35 collapse

How much fps are you getting? And what are your other settings?

gamer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 14:33 next collapse

I loaded it up on my Deck last night for a few minutes using the default settings (low preset) and was getting what seemed like a stable 30 fps running around in Skingrad. Other people have reported sub-20 FPS when in the open world on the Deck, so it’s probably not the best choice unless they patch it

Sarmyth@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 14:58 collapse

I was getting a stable 30fps on mid settings. Having played at home at much higher resolution, I see you lose a lot, but its still very playable.

nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Apr 02:50 next collapse

Looks shit.

WhatSay@slrpnk.net on 23 Apr 03:13 next collapse

I’m waiting for skyblivion instead

Elkot@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 11:09 next collapse

If you have Game pass give it a go, it kinda plays like a weird hybrid of Skyrim and Oblivion

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 15:19 collapse

dont wait, play this until skyblivion comes out. boom double oblivion remasters to play

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 12:07 next collapse

Can’t play the game. Just like Nightengale before it, it seems like Intel Arc cards still have issues supporting DX12 on Linux.

Game won’t launch because it complains DX12 is unsupported.

simple@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 12:26 collapse

That’s unfortunate. Hopefully a driver update comes around soon

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 13:33 collapse

Likewise, but I seem to be having major issues with Unreal Engine games in general. UE5 games tend to complain about lack of DX12, and UE4 games run very poorly.

Meanwhile I’m getting pretty good performance on Cyberpunk 2077 with nearly all the settings maxed out.

darthelmet@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 13:52 next collapse

I’m pretty curious about this. I tried Oblivion a few years ago having never played it before and it just felt too clunky for me to want to play much past the tutorial. Which is a shame because I’ve heard there’s a lot of cool stuff in the game I didn’t get to see.

If this makes things feel better to play and is a good all around remaster, maybe I’ll pick it up and give it another go.

gamer@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 14:29 collapse

Oblivion was the first game I ever put 100+ hours into, but every time I’ve tried to get back into it over the years, it was just too clunky and awkward. Bethesda games always age poorly.

But this remaster is fucking incredible and I very irresponsibly wasted an entire day yesterday playing it. They fixed and polished it so it feels like a modern game again. The only issue I had was poor performance in a lot of areas, like frequent drops down to 40 fps on my powerful PC. I’m hoping a patch will fix that soon.

Admittedly, my opinion is heavily clouded by nostalgia, so temper your expectations in case my comment actually convinces you to buy it. It’s a great game, but it’s smaller and somewhat clunkier than Skyrim.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Apr 15:47 next collapse

I got it, and despite the performance issues everyone is talking about, the game is a wonderful trip down nostalgia lane. And unlike the original, they fixed a lot of the annoyances like the clunky UI.

Tronn4@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 16:02 collapse

Oblivion, when last met you introduced horse armor! Now you return to look upon the ruined game landscape that you have brought! I loved you like a brother, Oblivion! You were the Chosen One!

Montagge@lemmy.zip on 23 Apr 17:49 collapse

Funny enough the deluxe edition includes horse armor lol