Youtuber Geekerwan has find the motherboard of Switch 2 and after reverse-engineer he have simulate the performance on a similar PC
from ekZepp@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 09 May 10:23
https://lemmy.world/post/29373133

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pr_V8rtzrE

A month ahead of Switch 2’s global release, we accidentally bought a real motherboard of Switch 2! We decided to reverse-engineer its NVIDIA SoC, and reveal the spces of its CPU and GPU, even head to a FIB-SEM to ensure its process node! We’d also simulate the performance on a similar PC to see how powerful is Switch 2. Stay tuned!

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kadup@lemmy.world on 09 May 10:33 next collapse

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I’m still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

echodot@feddit.uk on 09 May 12:21 collapse

So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world on 09 May 13:00 next collapse

There never was a good excuse other than greed and the fact that everyone keeps blindly throwing their money at them anyway.

Elevator7009@lemmy.zip on 09 May 22:26 collapse

As a !pokemon@lemm.ee fan I didn’t buy for these reasons but that doesn’t stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they’re happy, I guess… meanwhile I’ll be fine as long as they don’t go after ROM hacks.

fishy@lemmy.today on 10 May 02:30 collapse

Rom hacks can be so good, but why can’t we move past hm’s??

fishy@lemmy.today on 10 May 02:29 collapse

From what I’ve heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don’t want a large team. They also don’t want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don’t see the need to interject.

TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee on 09 May 10:38 next collapse

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

B0NK3RS@lemmy.world on 09 May 11:31 next collapse

Who doesn’t want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll…

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 02:44 next collapse

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 May 08:54 collapse

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

tobz619@lemmy.world on 09 May 12:21 next collapse

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don’t have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren’t phones or pseudocomputers and don’t cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

gradual@lemmings.world on 09 May 13:10 next collapse

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren’t willing to be the first ones to do it.

Elevator7009@lemmy.zip on 09 May 22:27 collapse

I’m probably part of the problem. I’ve never used a controller except a few times at friends’ houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don’t want to ever have to pick up a controller.

pory@lemmy.world on 10 May 19:39 collapse

With a phone, there’s a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That’s probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.

Elevator7009@lemmy.zip on 10 May 23:02 collapse

I’ve never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I’m genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I’m assuming is the majority.

7arakun@lemmy.world on 09 May 13:42 next collapse

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

tobz619@lemmy.world on 11 May 08:36 collapse

Yeah, I’m taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

teamevil@lemmy.world on 09 May 16:48 next collapse

Or just use a phone that’s a couple years old

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 11 May 01:31 collapse

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

teamevil@lemmy.world on 11 May 02:13 collapse

I’d say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go…leave the S23 for doom scrollin.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 11 May 02:18 collapse

Why downgrade?

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 10 May 09:10 next collapse

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de on 10 May 23:03 collapse

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

tobz619@lemmy.world on 11 May 08:44 collapse

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 May 13:38 collapse

www.goretroid.com/…/retroid-pocket-4-handheld

Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you’re gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.

gradual@lemmings.world on 09 May 13:10 next collapse

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

aegis_sum@lemmy.world on 09 May 15:28 next collapse

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

tobz619@lemmy.world on 11 May 08:38 collapse

I know but I don’t want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 10 May 04:21 next collapse

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world on 10 May 23:38 collapse

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It’s definitely powerful enough but I’m slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn’t work in chrome or Google photos)

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 11 May 00:45 collapse

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world on 11 May 03:13 collapse

Yeah, it’s probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don’t really care about the curved screen.

orenj@lemmy.sdf.org on 10 May 20:03 next collapse

There are real video games for phones now, and I’m pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

EddoWagt@feddit.nl on 10 May 20:09 collapse

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

Trainguyrom@reddthat.com on 11 May 02:40 next collapse

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly “race to sleep” in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it’ll consume overall

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:18 collapse

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca on 11 May 02:51 next collapse

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

degen@midwest.social on 11 May 03:37 collapse

Just say you’ve never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 11 May 04:18 collapse
GaMEChld@lemmy.world on 11 May 02:58 next collapse

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world on 11 May 10:49 collapse

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb…

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

B0NK3RS@lemmy.world on 09 May 10:48 next collapse

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

Donut@piefed.social on 09 May 11:45 next collapse

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

B0NK3RS@lemmy.world on 09 May 12:19 collapse

Ok yeah that’s fair. Most people.

Aeonx21@lemmy.world on 09 May 13:44 collapse

Not sure why your down voted.

oxideseven@lemmy.ca on 09 May 11:56 next collapse

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

[deleted] on 09 May 13:11 next collapse

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fishos@lemmy.world on 09 May 13:49 collapse

If you’re gonna post spam, at least spell it right.

shiroininja@lemmy.world on 09 May 11:58 next collapse

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

hitagi@ani.social on 09 May 13:04 next collapse

Good ol 750 Ti.

shiroininja@lemmy.world on 09 May 13:09 collapse

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

B0NK3RS@lemmy.world on 09 May 15:54 next collapse

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

shiroininja@lemmy.world on 09 May 15:57 next collapse

It’s like we’re returning to the early 00s lol. I used to rock a 450w psu in my 750ti build. :( granted I use a 650w today but my rx580 SND Ryzen 5 1500x is getting dated when it comes to new releases.

This is the first year I really don’t meeet requirements. Don’t know what to do with this market lol

B0NK3RS@lemmy.world on 09 May 16:07 next collapse

The pc market has taken a very consumerist turn and it’s actually pretty disgusting. Sad times.

Zanshi@lemmy.world on 09 May 20:15 collapse

I’m in the same boat, haven’t really found anything good to upgrade to that doesn’t cost me a kidney.

Artyom@lemm.ee on 10 May 03:13 collapse

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 10 May 02:43 collapse

Yup, that’s what I’m using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

gradual@lemmings.world on 09 May 13:09 collapse

Yuck, 1/4th the performance of a 3060?

I already have a 3060 laptop lmao. You can buy a 4070 lenovo laptop at walmart for $1k.

And nintendo wants to start charging $80 for games? On top of paying an extra subscription to use our own internet? Yeah, fuck that.

Sail the high seas. Your wallet and your dignity will be better off for it.