Halo on Paramount+ has been canceled after only two seasons (www.retbit.com)
from sheevpalpafiend@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 01:02
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morphballganon@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 01:22 next collapse

TIL there’s a Halo show

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:14 collapse

No there isn’t. There’s also only 3 Indiana Jones movies.

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 21:07 next collapse

And 6 Star Wars movies.

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 03:01 collapse

Crystal Skull honestly isn’t that bad. It’s way more fun to watch than Dial of Destiny imo.

Cause Harrison Ford could still do some stuff.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 05:05 collapse

I’m sorry there’s only The Lost Ark, The Temple of Doom, and The Last Crusade.

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 01:24 next collapse

Good riddance.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 19 Jul 2024 01:29 next collapse

The minute the show runners said that they did not play or care about the game before a single episode even aired, I knew it was going to suck balls.

If you don’t know or even care about the source material: you shouldn’t have the rights to make anything about it.

Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com on 19 Jul 2024 01:59 next collapse

If they didn’t name it Halo, it would have been a good sci-fi show on it’s own. But because I walked into it knowing enough about Halo lore (even though I didn’t play all that much of it). The show sucked… It wasn’t even close to living up to the game series.

jinkyanderson@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 02:49 next collapse

Master Cheeks

acosmichippo@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 03:45 collapse

I felt exactly the opposite, I don’t really care about halo lore that much and thought the show was horrible.

[deleted] on 19 Jul 2024 06:05 next collapse

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Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com on 19 Jul 2024 13:35 collapse

Well I mean… it’s no Stargate… but Sci-fi, especially space-based Sci-fi has been kind of dead these past few years. If it wasn’t “Halo” I could give it a pass for sure.

But with all things taste-related… to each their own.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:11 collapse

Lost in Space was better and critics hated it. They never should have given Halo a second season.

Chozo@fedia.io on 19 Jul 2024 02:11 next collapse

They knew enough to include a first-person fight scene, because that's what gamers wanna see.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 19 Jul 2024 02:21 collapse

Sounds like the Doom movie, which wasn’t originally written to be a Doom movie which is very apparent by not only a few unchanged lines of dialogue but also by the fact it was more like Resident Evil than it was like Doom.

TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk on 19 Jul 2024 05:26 collapse

I fuckin love that film though. The Rock’s best performance. The brief moment of transphobia can fuck right off though.

jinkyanderson@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 02:49 next collapse

The quote from the showrunner, according to the article:

“We didn’t look at the game. We didn’t talk about the game. We talked about the characters and the world. So I never felt limited by it being a game.”

Looks like they should have looked at the game a little more closely.

bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 09:58 collapse

“Limited by it being a game” is such a condescending thing to say. Just shows that these people look down on video games in general and most likely have little respect for the people who these games mean a lot to. I mean, that shows in this TV show, just based on the short bits I’ve seen. The Chief acts like a Stallone or a Tom Cruise stand-in, instead of a stoic warrior.

I can’t wait for an Elder Scrolls show helmed by these showrunners, the Witcher showrunners, and Alex Kurtzman

jorp@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 16:36 next collapse

limited by being an interactive medium where the average narrative length is dozens of hours.

We need the unlimited story telling freedom enabled by passively watching disjoint chunks of ad-riddled content

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 02:58 collapse

Tbf, I bet Todd Howard would die before letting anyone else make an Elder Scrolls show. Especially with the success of the Fallout show.

acosmichippo@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 03:43 collapse

I don’t even think that was the issue, the show was just fucking awful no matter how much or little it had to do with Halo.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 19 Jul 2024 06:17 collapse

I’m really surprised they made two seasons.

cdipierr@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 11:56 collapse

For a while streamers were doing this thing where they would renew a show for Season 2 before the Season 1 pilot even released. I guess it was a way to project confidence to the audience?? Or maybe just to get the production pipeline moving so there wouldn’t be 2+ years in between season releases.

Anyway, they did that with Halo…

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:13 collapse

I never thought I’d applaud the Netflix approach but it should have been used here. They should have just shut down production on season 2 when the first fell flat on its face.

solarvector@lemmy.zip on 19 Jul 2024 01:32 next collapse

Wow, that’s one more season that I knew about, assumed it’d never go beyond the first.

NaibofTabr@infosec.pub on 19 Jul 2024 02:11 next collapse

Does anyone else remember seeing this video and getting excited for the movie?

Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 02:26 collapse

I remember seeing This video and getting excited

Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 02:31 next collapse

Don’t do this, don’t give me hope

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:26 next collapse

This was done a decade ago. There’s no hope of it being a project now.

LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Jul 2024 14:58 collapse

No, that was Halo Reach

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech on 19 Jul 2024 02:46 next collapse

It was amazing promo for 3 when they did this, they knew how to hype it perfectly. I watched this so many times back then

MacedWindow@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 02:52 collapse

I was so sure that was going to turn into a movie

bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 10:06 collapse

It was a sure thing. It was greenlit with Peter Jackson producing and Niell Blomkamp directing. It went into development hell, sadly.

We did get District 9 out of the deal though (with Jackson still producing and Blomkamp directing), so at least something great came of that collaboration.

nevetsg@aussie.zone on 19 Jul 2024 03:00 next collapse

I cancelled it after the first episode.

vikingtons@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 04:40 next collapse

Let’s just pretend this fever dream never happened

Pregnenolone@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 05:09 next collapse

I couldn’t even get through the first episode. Legitimately horrible direction, shit acting, cliche story, terrible cinematography, and crap stage design. I’m surprised it lasted this long. I’m glad I didn’t need to get Paramount+ to watch it.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 19 Jul 2024 06:16 next collapse

The fact they couldn’t even make it as good as Red vs Blue is amazing. And that’s not a high bar.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 10:34 collapse

The mid-late seasons of rvb were pretty good. Story got fucking convoluted at the end because they had to turn the silly jokes of the early seasons into honest plot points, but overall an amazing series.

SoupBrick@yiffit.net on 19 Jul 2024 06:34 next collapse

But, but, it has Halo man in it, how could you not enjoy it? ~Investors

Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Jul 2024 10:58 collapse

They just straight up canceled the John Halo. It’s preposterous.

UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk on 19 Jul 2024 12:25 collapse

Same as. It felt like watching a higher budget Power Rangers.

cordlesslamp@lemmy.today on 19 Jul 2024 05:31 next collapse

Every single character in the show is unlikeable. Maybe except Cortana, but idk if I’m biased. Been having a thing for Cortana since 9th grade.

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Jul 2024 02:20 collapse

Cortana did nothing wrong…well in the 3-4 episodes I watched.

I really wanted to like it but I just couldn’t.

Coreidan@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 10:26 next collapse

Huh. So you’re telling me a show based off a FPS game sucks? Totally shocked!

No one saw this coming! /s

Clasm@ttrpg.network on 19 Jul 2024 12:46 next collapse

More like a show based off of a random super-soldier script they bought that they slapped the Halo logo on and hoped nobody would notice.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:08 collapse

Nah it can work. It’s just another in a long line of Hollywood cash grabs though.

franklin@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 10:46 next collapse

A live-action Halo is a terrible idea, as is a live-action Avatar.

Some media is so ingrained in its spectacle that to make live action work, you’d have to spend Marvel levels of money on special effects, and why? When animation is right there.

Sure, you might be able to appeal to a larger audience, but how’s that working out for you?

bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 13:45 next collapse

Halo has worked live action in the past, albiet for shorter durations (Halo 3 and ODST both had really well done live action ad campaigns, plus there was Forward Unto Dawn).

The problem is Paramount completely missed the mark in terms of tone and faithfulness to the source material, and it seems like they didn’t even try. They just went “Big green guy punches aliens, that’s what those gamerzz like, right? We can do that for a few million bucks.”

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:07 next collapse

It wasn’t even that. If they had just gone for a grittier more realistic take it would have been fine on visuals and effects. The acting though was cringe worthy at times and the writing wasn’t any better. It just wasn’t a fun show to watch.

Stovetop@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 18:04 collapse

And one where MasterChief doesn’t remove his helmet at every opportunity and doesn’t have sex with the first sketchy woman he meets.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 19:17 collapse

The helmet thing is at odds with how our film industry works. Actors really are paid commensurate to their popularity and if your big role doesn’t have your face on it then you don’t get paid as much. So either you have to hire an A lister who doesn’t mind, (the Mandalorian did this and there was still tension), or you settle for a modified helmet or having the helmet off whenever you can rationalize it.

Stovetop@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 20:49 next collapse

Not that I think it should work this way, but could always just pick a lesser known actor willing to settle for a paycheck to be “David Prowse’s Darth Vader” and then dub them over with someone more famous who is paid a lesser amount of money to be “James Earl Jones’ Darth Vader”.

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 21:04 next collapse

Karl Urban got the right idea in Dredd

Manalith@midwest.social on 20 Jul 2024 00:45 collapse

Should’ve done A New Hope and just gotten Steve Downes voicing him.

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 19 Jul 2024 14:32 next collapse

A live-action Halo that was proud to not follow the games was a terrible idea. They did not care at all about following the source material, they did not care about wanting to make something good for Halo fans. If it had been better executed it could have done well.

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 22:28 next collapse

I really don’t get why studios do that. They pick some well known franchise to attract the fans of that franchise, but then either figure they can do something better or that fans won’t care if they aren’t able to stick to the original story?

And so often that “better” they go for is really just different. And there’s nothing wrong with telling a different story, just don’t try to slap the franchise name on it for the name recognition.

Funny thing is, in some cases they could still do both by just making a new story in the same universe, either one that happens before the video game or after it (and fans would love references to events in the original story in the latter or foreshadowing events to come in the former). Though it’s still gotta be a good new story that follows the rules of the universe it’s set in.

And to add insult to injury, after seeing the result of this over and over, people walk away thinking movies based on video games can only suck making things harder for those who would do them right.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 02:47 collapse

Exactly, they hated Halo fans and wanted to make something to spite them and it turned out to make no money and they’re all out of a job.

Just like Saints Row 4 and Volition…

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 20 Jul 2024 04:15 collapse

Yep, these companies are so dumb, and then they go under. It’s impressive really. They just end up being out of a job and nothing to show for it.

skulbuny@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jul 2024 14:39 next collapse

I legit like the live action avatar. It isn’t the best thing ever, but I am actually legitimately enjoying it and it’s changes.

franklin@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 15:26 collapse

Agreed but the action is noticeably impacted by the move to live action for sure

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 02:55 collapse

I think a live-action Avatar could do well. I haven’t watched the Netflix show, but at least the bending in that one actually looks like they’re doing something.

Ibaudia@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:21 next collapse

I’m so glad The Last of Us exists to show people that not all video game adaptations have to be this bad.

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 21:02 next collapse

The Last of Us is supremely mid. It’s not bad, it’s not great it’s just ok.

accideath@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 21:35 next collapse

It‘s a very solid adaptation. Sure, it will always sit in the shadow of the game because that’s a masterpiece but if you haven’t played the game yet watched the show, you’re getting a well produced and complete package that isn’t offensive to the source material. Because that’s what happens if you let the writer/director of the source material actually guide you in creating the show.

Swarfega@lemm.ee on 19 Jul 2024 21:49 next collapse

Fallout wasn’t too bad imo. A bit shit in places but they kept close to the game which certainly peases the gamers.

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 06:26 collapse

I preferred Fallout to the last of us to be honest. The show wasn’t a 1-1 copy of any particular games but the core feeling was spot on.

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 06:28 collapse

Yeah hard to say because I have played the game. But I’m not particularly passionate about it. I just felt like the show was a bit meh and forgettable personally.

viking@infosec.pub on 19 Jul 2024 23:04 collapse

I never played the game, but thought the show was pretty great. Maybe not being familiar with the game is key, since you have different expectations?

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 02:53 collapse

And Fallout. Goddamn, Fallout was such a good show.

billwashere@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 17:54 collapse

Fallout is proof you can make a video game show good and still be true to the original game. Halo was a completely different story they tried to throw the Halo brand on and didn’t give two shits about the game. Bungie should have sued them for slander…. or whoever owns the brand now.

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 13:46 collapse

Pretty sure it’s just Microsoft who owns it now.

billwashere@lemmy.world on 21 Jul 2024 14:25 collapse

Yeah I thought so too but I wasn’t sure.

gianni@lemmy.ca on 19 Jul 2024 14:35 next collapse

I guess I was the only one who thought it was a fun action show and enjoyed it?

LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Jul 2024 14:57 next collapse

Halo deserves a bit more than a fun action show, yaknow?

gianni@lemmy.ca on 19 Jul 2024 16:17 collapse

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rowdyrockets@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 15:19 next collapse

In a vacuum it could have been a fine sci-fi show, IMO. They took something completely unrelated to the lore and put a Halo skin on it.

Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 15:37 collapse

I agree it was fine, a little slow at times but not a bad show. I enjoyed watching it, it’s too bad they cancelled it just as it was getting good.

Halo at its core is a first person shooter with a lot of lore built up around it. The show did a good job with respecting the lore and world building.

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 14:53 next collapse

So, I tried to watch it…

The non English parts with the aliens wouldn’t show the subtitles no matter what I did.

I wasn’t the only one having that trouble

Wtf am i going to watch something where I can’t understand important scenes?

doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jul 2024 22:02 collapse

For what its worth, you weren’t missing much…

pachrist@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 15:32 next collapse

Truly one of the worst adaptions ever made. It’s astonishing that people might have actually tried and worked hard to make this heap of garbage.

Usually, in trash movies/TV you can see the vision at least and understand how maybe studio executives, or lack of technology, or even lack of ability destroyed the project. The kernel of what originally sold it is still there. But with Halo, I didn’t see any of that. Everything was bad. Nobody cared, and nobody tried.

aciDC14@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 16:21 next collapse

Wow, what a surprise. I didn’t see that coming at all.

umbraroze@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 16:54 next collapse

Ah!

Now let us never discuss it if we can help it.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 19:41 collapse

Discuss what?

Spacehooks@reddthat.com on 20 Jul 2024 19:55 collapse

Exactly

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jul 2024 17:04 next collapse

The second season was a lot better than the first. They made Cortana so strange looking in that first season…

MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 17:08 next collapse

It was a good sci-fi show, just not a good Halo show.

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 19 Jul 2024 20:49 next collapse

Oh thank god

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 19 Jul 2024 20:54 next collapse

There was a Halo show? Oh Paramount, I hate paramount. When I had to do the contracts for renewing channels at a cable system they were by far the worst.

FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 00:34 collapse

What was it like working in the cable TV industry? Did it pay good and have good benefits?

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 20 Jul 2024 14:44 collapse

It generally sucked. I was the sysadmin and the whole system was maintained with near end of life or end of life equipment. I fell into doing the renewal contracts for programming because I maintained the channel maps. The worst were viacom, paramount and espn. What a bunch of opportunist trash. I started in late 2008 before netflix hit and watched the price go up as the subscribers for TV went down. I battled the old school notions of cable while watching the owner and his cronies flail about without understanding the changes. They couldn’t understand why we were topping out on bandwidth every night and I tried to tell them that people were actually using it now. They wouldn’t pay for any type of proxy. They also at first wouldn’t pay for more bandwidth. They had a absurd user to bandwidth calculation in their head from ten years before and were slow to recognize that what was true then wouldn’t stay that way.

I did predicted how it would end up though. Cable isn’t gone like everyone said it would be but many cable companies have dumped video completely. There is no profit in carrying video. I knew that netflix wouldn’t remain the only game in town and that all those cord cutters would soon be faced with similar bills to keep the same amount of access to programming in the end. I was told I was wrong by both sides of it and I have to say the smug from being right about it all hasn’t earned me one dime. All in all I’m glad I’m out it.

doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jul 2024 22:01 next collapse

only two seasons

Two more than it deserved.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com on 20 Jul 2024 19:58 collapse

When my dumbass father calls out BS that same guns do different damage when a spartan hold them you missed up.