_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 18:42
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They’ve been working on it since they finished the next gen update for 3. That’s about two years now.
They’ve also said they learned their lesson with CP2077, so they aren’t going to give release dates or spend massive amounts on marketing this time around.
I will believe it when I see it because I don't believe their words at all. CDPR have good PR, but it's still all corpo bs underneath.
This is already an early trailer, so it seems they are following in CP2077's footsteps so far.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 19:45
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They’ve been working on it full time for two years. That’s two years they’ve been working full time on it. The full time development has been in progress for two years. For two years, the developers have been working full time on the game.
Did I mention it’s been in development for two years?
So then don’t buy it at launch and wait until it goes on sale. CP2077 ended up in a excellent state. Then you have the bonus of supporting only their fixed products while also not paying full price.
I don't buy triple A games anymore unless it is really far down the line, so don't worry. They would have to really surprise me.
Rooskie91@discuss.online
on 13 Dec 03:01
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Holy shit i didn’t even know this was a thing.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world
on 13 Dec 03:52
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I sure hope CDPR is up to the task. Witcher 3 is one of the greatest games ever made, but I’ve been burned by Blizzard into knowing that a great trailer doesn’t portend a great game.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 18:40
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I need to actually start on 3. I’ve had it for several years, just never got around to playing it.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world
on 13 Dec 19:58
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I booted it up recently, and it holds up really well. It hits a perfect balance of narrative and action while largely avoiding repetitive fetch quests and the like. And both of the DLC are excellent - Hearts of Stone has the best plot line in the game while Blood and Wine has the most beautiful locations.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 20:07
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I’ve actually got both of those. Not sure when I bought them, but they’re on my account.
I played the second late and then the third. I think it simplified too much some parts of the gameplay to please the mass, but the atmosphere and writing are still really good.
Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world
on 13 Dec 04:01
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Was that an electric Aard variation? I think there are some modified signs going on that look pretty cool.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 07:00
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They tried a hydrogen one first, but it just wasn’t practical…
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 13 Dec 04:33
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REALLY annoyed that Ciri is quaffing potions since I thought a big deal was that she never had the witcher mutations since Triss (?) realized it was a really bad idea to give a menstruating young girl all those mutagens. So those should basically leave her in horrific pain on the ground after she chugs them.
One of the things that made her segments Work so well in TW3 was that she very clearly was NOT Geralt… she was something simultaneously less and massively more powerful. Which is why her wandering off to become a Witcher in all the good endings was so powerful. She is not a Witcher but she IS someone who can fight like one and who can do some good in the world.
But very excited. I think there is a LOT of room for Ciri to call out the misogynistic bullshit of the average medieval-ish fantasy culture (and we saw shades of that). Not entirely sure I trust CDPR for this though. Sometimes they do real good and sometimes it feels like the joke is that that woman has a dick. Time will tell.
But a few people noticed that Bluesky has Austin Walker listed as part of CDPR Boston (?). I suspect that is just an anomaly or maybe some contract work but… I trust Austin to speak Truth and convince people just how much power they have to write a ridiculously powerful female character in medieval-ish Europe.
Also, I assume CDPR is reading this because of course they are. So here is something free. Ciri is not the Butcher of Blavikan like her father. She is the “Butcher of whatever fucking town this is” if people don’t get out of her way and let her help people.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Dec 09:48
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We’ll just have to see what explanation they give. Did she get herself mutated eventually? Are the potions diluted/weaker? (I remember a quest where Geralt feeds a normal human a small dose of one of his potions.)
Would it be more interesting to have a Ciri that specifically doesn’t have most of the Witcher powers? Maybe, but I can understand them wanting to keep most of the gameplay staples. It looks like they are trying to keep most of Geralt’s moves and then adding some new ones.
Whatever happens, it should be interesting! I think what I’m most excited about is Ciri has a different morality and worldview - I’m excited to see how that ends up affecting the writing.
Of course I’m not taking it for granted it will be good, but I am hopeful.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 13 Dec 19:03
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(I remember a quest where Geralt feeds a normal human a small dose of one of his potions.
Sadly, none of this denoted a happy ending. Though the wounds on Lena’s body healed, the toxins in the witcher’s brew had melted her mind. This was not the first time a cure had proven worse than the disease
Regarding the potions, I haven’t read the books, but the wiki alludes to “Children of Destiny” not needing the trials, of which Ciri is part of. Even if that’s not it, I don’t think a grown woman choosing to undergo the trials is comparable to forcing it on a child. Pretty badass, tbh.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 13 Dec 19:14
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Not sure if it was optional (I THINK I missed it my first playthrough at launch?) but as part of TW3 you put someone through the trials as an adult. And it basically liquifies their body and causes immense suffering so that magic can be used to turn a pile of Clarence Boddicker back into the person’s real form.
It wouldn’t be the first retcon or outright ignoring of lore in the CDPR series (or the author’s books for that matter…) but it just feels particularly egregious because Ciri very specifically is NOT a Witcher and her choosing to live that life was her rejecting destiny and taking control of herself. But also? She can never truly escape that destiny.
As I remember, the liquification was more so part of the curse than the trials. The immense pain and risk of death is true either way, though.
And I don’t see any conflict with Ciri here. That would be her continuing to fight to make her own life, no? The destiny she’s running from isn’t about her being a witcher. More so the opposite, as I understand it.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Dec 17:56
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I always imagined a Ciri game as a more action-oriented and somewhat more over-the-top spin-off based on how she played in Witcher 3. But honestly I’ll be content as long as it’s a good game
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 18:43
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Are they witcher potions though? Or are they the kind the sorcerers use?
I think they’re Witcher potions. Based on her eyes, I’d guess she underwent the mutations.
I agree the “women cannot be witchers” thing always seemed sexist, but making her a witcher is a nerf more than anything. She didn’t teleport once in the teaser. A weird but welcome flip from ‘the female character didn’t earn it’ to ‘they took away everything she earned’ that we’re seeing in the social media reactions.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 20:53
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IDK, but it’ll be interesting to see how the story goes. Looking forward to it, for sure.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Dec 01:35
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Somebody pointed out to me that the witcher medallion that Ciri is wearing is feline, so possibly from the School of the Cat, which according to the wiki was known to train women as witchers. I wonder if they had a different trial than that of the grasses. She might be a full fledged mutant, like Geralt.
Yeah, my sticking point isn’t the female witchers. It’s how much less powerful she is now. She was damn near a god last game.
I remember crashing my ps4 my piling up a ridiculous number of corpses during her escape scene. Just such a badass. Hurt my heart to watch her struggle in the fight in this teaser.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Dec 20:48
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Oh, I wasn’t implying anything of the sort, I just got excited about that little detail and wanted to share it with you!
Or they wanted to play off that kneejerk reaction to get you engaged. Ciri studied under Triss, Yen, and Avala’ch and knows actual magic. They could just be the more powerful actual versions of what witchers try and emulate.
Don_alForno@feddit.org
on 13 Dec 05:28
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Who’s that ugly fucker that took the Leshen’s place?
Anyway, let’s wait and see in what state it releases.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Dec 06:21
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Have they even written a line of code yet?
Guess neither people nor they learned that infinite hype is a disgustingly fake practice.
It was already reported entering full production some time ago
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Dec 18:38
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They’ve been working on it full-time for two years, so yeah. They’ve probably written one or two lines.
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
on 14 Dec 21:38
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Even if they’d take a decade from now to release it, I wouldn’t mind. If I’ve learnt anything from CDPR it’s that masterpieces take time, and I’d much rather have a masterpiece in a decade than something half finished now.
threaded - newest
AHHH this raises so many questions. So ready for this.
Oh, piss off, Google.
ign.com/…/the-witcher-4-official-cinematic-reveal…
www.youtube.com/embed/54dabgZJ5YA
How do you get around YouTube sign in prompts?
@remindme@mstdn.social 1 day
…does this one actually work on Lemmy or?
Yes it does
Yay! Thanks for the tip!
@remindme@mstdn.social 1h
In this case, replace
/watch?v=with/embed/, but I don’t know if it works in every situation.<img alt="" src="https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/d417f3a2-588c-439d-b277-baabb8132f6f.jpeg">
Why can I hear this meme
Ciri hyyyyypppppeeeeee
This trailer is why I can’t really get into the Netflix series version of Ciri. She just doesn’t have this.
Seems a bit early.
They’ve been working on it since they finished the next gen update for 3. That’s about two years now.
They’ve also said they learned their lesson with CP2077, so they aren’t going to give release dates or spend massive amounts on marketing this time around.
I will believe it when I see it because I don't believe their words at all. CDPR have good PR, but it's still all corpo bs underneath.
This is already an early trailer, so it seems they are following in CP2077's footsteps so far.
They’ve been working on it full time for two years. That’s two years they’ve been working full time on it. The full time development has been in progress for two years. For two years, the developers have been working full time on the game.
Did I mention it’s been in development for two years?
And CP2077 was in development for 7+ years, what's your point?
That they are using UE5 this time, so they can cut more corners in development and have us a nice blurry mess out by the end of next year?
So then don’t buy it at launch and wait until it goes on sale. CP2077 ended up in a excellent state. Then you have the bonus of supporting only their fixed products while also not paying full price.
I don't buy triple A games anymore unless it is really far down the line, so don't worry. They would have to really surprise me.
Holy shit i didn’t even know this was a thing.
I sure hope CDPR is up to the task. Witcher 3 is one of the greatest games ever made, but I’ve been burned by Blizzard into knowing that a great trailer doesn’t portend a great game.
I need to actually start on 3. I’ve had it for several years, just never got around to playing it.
I booted it up recently, and it holds up really well. It hits a perfect balance of narrative and action while largely avoiding repetitive fetch quests and the like. And both of the DLC are excellent - Hearts of Stone has the best plot line in the game while Blood and Wine has the most beautiful locations.
I’ve actually got both of those. Not sure when I bought them, but they’re on my account.
They came with the GOTY edition which was pretty much the standard version being sold after a while.
HoS is my favourite of them even though it adds some truly tedious enemies to the map, but BaW is huge and adds like another 50% to the base game.
I played the second late and then the third. I think it simplified too much some parts of the gameplay to please the mass, but the atmosphere and writing are still really good.
Was that an electric Aard variation? I think there are some modified signs going on that look pretty cool.
They tried a hydrogen one first, but it just wasn’t practical…
Pretty sure she will not be limited to signs. Signs are the most basic magic, Ciri will most likely have actual spells in her arsenal.
Badass
REALLY annoyed that Ciri is quaffing potions since I thought a big deal was that she never had the witcher mutations since Triss (?) realized it was a really bad idea to give a menstruating young girl all those mutagens. So those should basically leave her in horrific pain on the ground after she chugs them.
One of the things that made her segments Work so well in TW3 was that she very clearly was NOT Geralt… she was something simultaneously less and massively more powerful. Which is why her wandering off to become a Witcher in all the good endings was so powerful. She is not a Witcher but she IS someone who can fight like one and who can do some good in the world.
But very excited. I think there is a LOT of room for Ciri to call out the misogynistic bullshit of the average medieval-ish fantasy culture (and we saw shades of that). Not entirely sure I trust CDPR for this though. Sometimes they do real good and sometimes it feels like the joke is that that woman has a dick. Time will tell.
But a few people noticed that Bluesky has Austin Walker listed as part of CDPR Boston (?). I suspect that is just an anomaly or maybe some contract work but… I trust Austin to speak Truth and convince people just how much power they have to write a ridiculously powerful female character in medieval-ish Europe.
Also, I assume CDPR is reading this because of course they are. So here is something free. Ciri is not the Butcher of Blavikan like her father. She is the “Butcher of whatever fucking town this is” if people don’t get out of her way and let her help people.
We’ll just have to see what explanation they give. Did she get herself mutated eventually? Are the potions diluted/weaker? (I remember a quest where Geralt feeds a normal human a small dose of one of his potions.)
Would it be more interesting to have a Ciri that specifically doesn’t have most of the Witcher powers? Maybe, but I can understand them wanting to keep most of the gameplay staples. It looks like they are trying to keep most of Geralt’s moves and then adding some new ones.
Whatever happens, it should be interesting! I think what I’m most excited about is Ciri has a different morality and worldview - I’m excited to see how that ends up affecting the writing.
Of course I’m not taking it for granted it will be good, but I am hopeful.
witcher.fandom.com/wiki/On_Death's_Bed
The witcher potions are RIDICULOUSLY toxic
rip I either missed or forgot the follow up on that one
Regarding the potions, I haven’t read the books, but the wiki alludes to “Children of Destiny” not needing the trials, of which Ciri is part of. Even if that’s not it, I don’t think a grown woman choosing to undergo the trials is comparable to forcing it on a child. Pretty badass, tbh.
Not sure if it was optional (I THINK I missed it my first playthrough at launch?) but as part of TW3 you put someone through the trials as an adult. And it basically liquifies their body and causes immense suffering so that magic can be used to turn a pile of Clarence Boddicker back into the person’s real form.
It wouldn’t be the first retcon or outright ignoring of lore in the CDPR series (or the author’s books for that matter…) but it just feels particularly egregious because Ciri very specifically is NOT a Witcher and her choosing to live that life was her rejecting destiny and taking control of herself. But also? She can never truly escape that destiny.
As I remember, the liquification was more so part of the curse than the trials. The immense pain and risk of death is true either way, though.
And I don’t see any conflict with Ciri here. That would be her continuing to fight to make her own life, no? The destiny she’s running from isn’t about her being a witcher. More so the opposite, as I understand it.
I always imagined a Ciri game as a more action-oriented and somewhat more over-the-top spin-off based on how she played in Witcher 3. But honestly I’ll be content as long as it’s a good game
Are they witcher potions though? Or are they the kind the sorcerers use?
I think they’re Witcher potions. Based on her eyes, I’d guess she underwent the mutations.
I agree the “women cannot be witchers” thing always seemed sexist, but making her a witcher is a nerf more than anything. She didn’t teleport once in the teaser. A weird but welcome flip from ‘the female character didn’t earn it’ to ‘they took away everything she earned’ that we’re seeing in the social media reactions.
IDK, but it’ll be interesting to see how the story goes. Looking forward to it, for sure.
Somebody pointed out to me that the witcher medallion that Ciri is wearing is feline, so possibly from the School of the Cat, which according to the wiki was known to train women as witchers. I wonder if they had a different trial than that of the grasses. She might be a full fledged mutant, like Geralt.
Yeah, my sticking point isn’t the female witchers. It’s how much less powerful she is now. She was damn near a god last game.
I remember crashing my ps4 my piling up a ridiculous number of corpses during her escape scene. Just such a badass. Hurt my heart to watch her struggle in the fight in this teaser.
Oh, I wasn’t implying anything of the sort, I just got excited about that little detail and wanted to share it with you!
Or they wanted to play off that kneejerk reaction to get you engaged. Ciri studied under Triss, Yen, and Avala’ch and knows actual magic. They could just be the more powerful actual versions of what witchers try and emulate.
Who’s that ugly fucker that took the Leshen’s place?
Anyway, let’s wait and see in what state it releases.
Have they even written a line of code yet?
Guess neither people nor they learned that infinite hype is a disgustingly fake practice.
It was already reported entering full production some time ago
They’ve been working on it full-time for two years, so yeah. They’ve probably written one or two lines.
Even if they’d take a decade from now to release it, I wouldn’t mind. If I’ve learnt anything from CDPR it’s that masterpieces take time, and I’d much rather have a masterpiece in a decade than something half finished now.
a decade, and than multiple years to make them playable with broken promises and lies.
Masterpieces alright.
So we’ll see this game in 2033 yeah?