Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 22:26
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The original had to be one of the most underrated (or just undermmarketed?) games of all time.
Absolutely fantastic RPG.
Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
on 08 Jun 03:29
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The first game was funded through Kickstarter and a random Czech millionaire who really liked history. I don’t exactly blame them for not having the marketing budget needed to really make to first game as successful as it could’ve.
Hopefully, the amazing success of the first game can propell the second into being the Skyrim level RPG success they deserve.
AFAIK, modding is the main reason for Skyrims long term success. Sure, it did its part in inspiring people initially, but what keeps at least me coming back is my interest in trying new mods.
But it also didn’t start there with Elder Scrolls series. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas use a very moddable predecessor of the Skyrim engine, and thus build the community up for Skyrim and later games.
Modability of KC:D was rather limited, so there isn’t a community around as big as the Skyrim one. That means with Skyrim, you get what you can mod into it, while with Kingdom Come, you mostly just get what you buy.
So I don’t expect it to be the next Skyrim, but never the less I am interested in it.
Right? I’m not a huge gamer. I literally play maybe three games on rotation, and they’ve been the same games for years. But I’m super excited about this game. I might even buy it full priced. That’s how excited I am. Hats saying something. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a full priced game.
WANmonger@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Jun 01:34
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I can. It was M&B 2 Bannerlords.
rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 23:57
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This is the only game I’m currently excited for. I was excited for Space Marine 2, until I saw it had a season pass and comes with day 1 DLC if you preorder. I am crossing my fingers that the publisher doesn’t somehow weasel a season pass or DLC into this!!!
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 08 Jun 03:37
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Why is it that you draw the line at season passes? Does it just mean you pick it up on sale later? Usually a DLC pipeline is the best way to keep your employees working on something productive while the tech folks are setting the ground work on the next project.
slumberlust@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 03:39
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Not OP, but happy to provide my perspective. Day one DLC is not DLC but part of the original game that was removed for pay tier and marketing reasons. DLCs or expansion packs like the recent cyberpunk campaign are fine in my book.
That’s different than a season pass though, and it’s why I didn’t question the day 1 DLC, which isn’t super common these days, from what I can tell.
rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world
on 18 Jun 15:22
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I’m just generally pretty skeptical of DLC; I feel like sure, there are some good examples of actual “expansions” but that a lot of DLC is just cynical nickle-and-diming pushed by publishers.
I’m even more skeptical of season passes, which feels like pre-ordering DLC. I don’t pre-order anything, and barely keep up with modern gaming, because it feels like disappointment after disappointment.
I also feel a little negative about a developer releasing something and even months before launch having one eye on DLC. I understand it probably works that way in terms of development timelines, and I understand that it can be a good way to keep employees working on something productive, but I can’t help but feel like I’m not getting as full a game as I could have.
It’s just my opinion tho, and I’m definitely not saying everyone has to agree!
Guy is mad that Larian decided to add the pre-order items (literally some cosmetic items that reference their previous game, soundtrack, some art and DnD style character sheets for the Origins) as an optional bundle for people to buy if they missed out and want them. But “day 1 DLC bad” so it doesn’t matter how inoffensive this thing is, hate must flow, game shit, 0/10.
What a terrible unnecessary and emotionally loaded strawman argument. I actually own the DLC and love BG3 just as I love Larian‘s other recent games. You‘re wrong about it being just cosmetics too. And it was Larian who made a HUGE deal about not tolerating any additional, paywalled content when the game had it from day 1. And so you now make a huge deal about how it somehow doesn‘t count because Larian is based or something. Just accept that they lied there just like they lie about shareholders and enjoy the video game like everyone else without treating the devs like your holy absolute.
What do you usually do when you don’t remember information that is freely available? I am talking about the very DLC featured on the Steam page. The one with an item bag that gives you more dialog options. The one that Larian made a big deal about not existing. Guess it worked considering there‘s even gaslit superfans in here refusing to admit it exists because it‘s somehow such a world shattering deal to them.
You made a good point, this is actually DLC, I just forgot about it.
I bought BG3 when it was in EA, so I got this DLC automatically, so I never really thought about it recently, I don’t even remember seeing it on any shop front.
But now that you mentioned it, I think I thought that they should probably release it for free for everyone at that time. Just like CDPR released some cosmetic ‘DLC’ for free after launch.
If I had to buy it, I probably wouldn’t.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 23:58
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Ohh I need to do another hardcore Henry run
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
on 08 Jun 00:00
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I look forward to playing this, the only thing I wasn’t a fan of in the original.is that saving needed a consumable potion.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world
on 08 Jun 06:26
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Bro you gotta be all over those schnapps
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
on 08 Jun 06:59
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What’s weird is I liked when Resident Evil still needed Ink Ribbons to save your game. But something about it in Kingdom Come just doesn’t jive with me.
Same but I don’t think it’s weird. RE are linear games and you always picked up ribbons at convenient moments. KC is a open world game and the schnapps drops are random and not very often or you had to ride to an alchemy bench and brew them with an ingredient that was hard to find. I didn’t want to deal with that so I modded the game to save when I wanted.
I used the optimum efficiency method and got 3 schnapps a pop per minute, farming the ingredients wasn’t that much complex as well. One is everywhere and the other has some special locations. It has its charm
I honestly never found the elusive one in the wild. Only got a reliable location with the dlc and the garden. The system may have it’s charm but it was just too many steps for my liking.
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The original had to be one of the most underrated (or just undermmarketed?) games of all time.
Absolutely fantastic RPG.
The first game was funded through Kickstarter and a random Czech millionaire who really liked history. I don’t exactly blame them for not having the marketing budget needed to really make to first game as successful as it could’ve.
Hopefully, the amazing success of the first game can propell the second into being the Skyrim level RPG success they deserve.
AFAIK, modding is the main reason for Skyrims long term success. Sure, it did its part in inspiring people initially, but what keeps at least me coming back is my interest in trying new mods.
But it also didn’t start there with Elder Scrolls series. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas use a very moddable predecessor of the Skyrim engine, and thus build the community up for Skyrim and later games.
Modability of KC:D was rather limited, so there isn’t a community around as big as the Skyrim one. That means with Skyrim, you get what you can mod into it, while with Kingdom Come, you mostly just get what you buy.
So I don’t expect it to be the next Skyrim, but never the less I am interested in it.
I can’t remember the last time I was so hyped for a video game.
Right? I’m not a huge gamer. I literally play maybe three games on rotation, and they’ve been the same games for years. But I’m super excited about this game. I might even buy it full priced. That’s how excited I am. Hats saying something. I don’t think I’ve ever bought a full priced game.
I can. It was M&B 2 Bannerlords.
This is the only game I’m currently excited for. I was excited for Space Marine 2, until I saw it had a season pass and comes with day 1 DLC if you preorder. I am crossing my fingers that the publisher doesn’t somehow weasel a season pass or DLC into this!!!
Why is it that you draw the line at season passes? Does it just mean you pick it up on sale later? Usually a DLC pipeline is the best way to keep your employees working on something productive while the tech folks are setting the ground work on the next project.
Not OP, but happy to provide my perspective. Day one DLC is not DLC but part of the original game that was removed for pay tier and marketing reasons. DLCs or expansion packs like the recent cyberpunk campaign are fine in my book.
That’s different than a season pass though, and it’s why I didn’t question the day 1 DLC, which isn’t super common these days, from what I can tell.
I’m just generally pretty skeptical of DLC; I feel like sure, there are some good examples of actual “expansions” but that a lot of DLC is just cynical nickle-and-diming pushed by publishers.
I’m even more skeptical of season passes, which feels like pre-ordering DLC. I don’t pre-order anything, and barely keep up with modern gaming, because it feels like disappointment after disappointment.
I also feel a little negative about a developer releasing something and even months before launch having one eye on DLC. I understand it probably works that way in terms of development timelines, and I understand that it can be a good way to keep employees working on something productive, but I can’t help but feel like I’m not getting as full a game as I could have.
It’s just my opinion tho, and I’m definitely not saying everyone has to agree!
Even BG3 has a day 1 DLC so I wouldn‘t get my hopes up. It‘s basically the Steam equivalent of a collectors edition at this point.
I don’t remember that. AFAIK Larian has not made, and will not make any DLC for BG3.
What do you mean?
Guy is mad that Larian decided to add the pre-order items (literally some cosmetic items that reference their previous game, soundtrack, some art and DnD style character sheets for the Origins) as an optional bundle for people to buy if they missed out and want them. But “day 1 DLC bad” so it doesn’t matter how inoffensive this thing is, hate must flow, game shit, 0/10.
What a terrible unnecessary and emotionally loaded strawman argument. I actually own the DLC and love BG3 just as I love Larian‘s other recent games. You‘re wrong about it being just cosmetics too. And it was Larian who made a HUGE deal about not tolerating any additional, paywalled content when the game had it from day 1. And so you now make a huge deal about how it somehow doesn‘t count because Larian is based or something. Just accept that they lied there just like they lie about shareholders and enjoy the video game like everyone else without treating the devs like your holy absolute.
What do you usually do when you don’t remember information that is freely available? I am talking about the very DLC featured on the Steam page. The one with an item bag that gives you more dialog options. The one that Larian made a big deal about not existing. Guess it worked considering there‘s even gaslit superfans in here refusing to admit it exists because it‘s somehow such a world shattering deal to them.
I don’t know why you are so aggressive.
You made a good point, this is actually DLC, I just forgot about it.
I bought BG3 when it was in EA, so I got this DLC automatically, so I never really thought about it recently, I don’t even remember seeing it on any shop front.
But now that you mentioned it, I think I thought that they should probably release it for free for everyone at that time. Just like CDPR released some cosmetic ‘DLC’ for free after launch.
If I had to buy it, I probably wouldn’t.
Ohh I need to do another hardcore Henry run
I look forward to playing this, the only thing I wasn’t a fan of in the original.is that saving needed a consumable potion.
Bro you gotta be all over those schnapps
What’s weird is I liked when Resident Evil still needed Ink Ribbons to save your game. But something about it in Kingdom Come just doesn’t jive with me.
Same but I don’t think it’s weird. RE are linear games and you always picked up ribbons at convenient moments. KC is a open world game and the schnapps drops are random and not very often or you had to ride to an alchemy bench and brew them with an ingredient that was hard to find. I didn’t want to deal with that so I modded the game to save when I wanted.
I used the optimum efficiency method and got 3 schnapps a pop per minute, farming the ingredients wasn’t that much complex as well. One is everywhere and the other has some special locations. It has its charm
I honestly never found the elusive one in the wild. Only got a reliable location with the dlc and the garden. The system may have it’s charm but it was just too many steps for my liking.
Nah there is like 3 places and one spot literally behind where you learn alchemy first time where you can get the belladonna 1
Yes! This just made me pause the game and never close it
Really looking forward to this one.
I’m really looking forward to that drunkard perk, it’s like teleportation you can’t control hahah
Seeing Henry and Hans running around getting into mischief… I’m there for it.
I’m all for punching those cows and herb picking