i count Andromeda! Andromeda is my 2nd highest rated Mass Effect game.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world
on 29 Jan 23:25
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Mass Effect the IP isn’t the issue, the issue is EA sucks. So you’re basically asking why do they even persist as a company anymore.
Also I think Andromeda was okay, just terribly buggy at launch. The gameplay was actually pretty fun imo. On the other hand, Veilguard was technically sound but the game itself was not great. So if they can somehow learn lessons from both, there is hope.
Less about EA, more about Bioware. EA has proven they aren’t shy about murdering studios, so why keep Bioware around when their last good game was, what? Star Wars: Old Republic? 2011?
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Jan 07:49
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I disagree with both, ME3 was slightly ok.
First of all, the original concept of the reapers’ objective was way better than the “AI bad” we got;
secondly, most of its story is just tying loose ends - the whole game is a collection of fanservice moments, many of which look good but feel inorganic(heh) if you think about the fact that one undead human soldier (plus a few dozen subordinates) solves all major galactic disputes.
You wanted to play a documentary or a game? Of course the player character solves important things
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 30 Jan 16:20
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Not ALL major political conflicts in the galaxy, you didn’t solve one in the first game and only solved one in the second one (with the solution being “RIP, batarians”).
Two was horrible, the end boss skeleton is the stupidest shit. I liked the first, endured the second to the end and never touched the third or Andromeda
ICastFist@programming.dev
on 30 Jan 13:09
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2 has very interesting character development and interaction, but I agree that the final boss is a fucking joke, both as a fight and as something within the lore. Those collector praetors were much harder for me to deal with, the fuckers would easily kill off my team and fully restore barrier as soon as I started hitting its actual health
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Jan 23:16
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yea, we moved Stephen Spielberg and some other senior leaders to different rolls. He just seems he’s a better fit for the “Cliffhanger” project. We just don’t envision that Amblan Entertainment needs our full attention now and they have all our confidence going forward with their “Schindler” property.
EDIT: I forgot: what’s the difference? Unions probably.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 30 Jan 00:25
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There are an enormous number of reasons why the video game industry could never work like Hollywood above and beyond unions.
Let’s move the well known director to a new project and let someone completely unknown handle the sequels to an already established brand.
Anyway, how many people that had any actual say in the original Mass Effect still work at Bioware?
LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
on 30 Jan 00:59
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Here’s a question. Is it better for the industry to have studios layoff employees when they finish a project and their other project is in Pre-Production which only requires a small team? Or is it better to assign the people who aren’t needed yet, since the Pre-production team is small, to help other teams in a larger parent company? I’d argue the second option is far better. And the second option is what’s happening here.
LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
on 30 Jan 02:33
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Exactly. Which is why framing this as layoffs is incredibly disingenuous. And it seems most games media is framing it as such despite it simply being a pre-production decision.
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There hasn’t been a good Mass Effect game since 2, so I wonder why they even persist in this.
3 is my favorite, and I get why people like 2, but it was my least favorite. (Of the original 3. I don’t even count Andromeda.)
i count Andromeda! Andromeda is my 2nd highest rated Mass Effect game.
Mass Effect the IP isn’t the issue, the issue is EA sucks. So you’re basically asking why do they even persist as a company anymore.
Also I think Andromeda was okay, just terribly buggy at launch. The gameplay was actually pretty fun imo. On the other hand, Veilguard was technically sound but the game itself was not great. So if they can somehow learn lessons from both, there is hope.
Less about EA, more about Bioware. EA has proven they aren’t shy about murdering studios, so why keep Bioware around when their last good game was, what? Star Wars: Old Republic? 2011?
I gotta disagree, 3 was real good.
The ending was a choice for sure, but otherwise it was good.
I just couldn’t get over the janky-ass animation. All the problems inherent in Andromeda were present in 3.
youtu.be/Ye0Rl16elKo
I mean sure, but no worse than ME 1 or 2.
I disagree with both, ME3 was slightly ok.
First of all, the original concept of the reapers’ objective was way better than the “AI bad” we got;
secondly, most of its story is just tying loose ends - the whole game is a collection of fanservice moments, many of which look good but feel inorganic(heh) if you think about the fact that one undead human soldier (plus a few dozen subordinates) solves all major galactic disputes.
You wanted to play a documentary or a game? Of course the player character solves important things
Not ALL major political conflicts in the galaxy, you didn’t solve one in the first game and only solved one in the second one (with the solution being “RIP, batarians”).
Two was horrible, the end boss skeleton is the stupidest shit. I liked the first, endured the second to the end and never touched the third or Andromeda
2 has very interesting character development and interaction, but I agree that the final boss is a fucking joke, both as a fight and as something within the lore. Those collector praetors were much harder for me to deal with, the fuckers would easily kill off my team and fully restore barrier as soon as I started hitting its actual health
RIP Bioware.
It’s been rip BioWare time for a while, ever since <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/40b48335-93fc-41ad-95d4-ab37401a2085.png">
Whelp this game is dead or wishes it was dead
I have nothing good to say about EA since they locked me out of my Mass Effect games, WHICH I BOUGHT AND GAVE MONEY FOR! Fuck these guys.
Can you imagine if Hollywood worked like this?
EDIT: I forgot: what’s the difference? Unions probably.
There are an enormous number of reasons why the video game industry could never work like Hollywood above and beyond unions.
The difference is Hollywood directors names sell.
Yes, I can imagine that. Happens all the time
Anyway, how many people that had any actual say in the original Mass Effect still work at Bioware?
Here’s a question. Is it better for the industry to have studios layoff employees when they finish a project and their other project is in Pre-Production which only requires a small team? Or is it better to assign the people who aren’t needed yet, since the Pre-production team is small, to help other teams in a larger parent company? I’d argue the second option is far better. And the second option is what’s happening here.
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Exactly. Which is why framing this as layoffs is incredibly disingenuous. And it seems most games media is framing it as such despite it simply being a pre-production decision.