slazer2au@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 2024 21:28
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I reached out to Ubisoft and was told that an internet connection is required to install the game no matter which version you are playing. However, Ubisoft did confirm that you’ll be able to play Outlaws offline once you’ve installed it.
Am I missing something here. How big is the game because online install has been a thing some 2008 because games are larger than DVD and Blu-ray disk’s.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 2024 21:43
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It’s DRM to authenticate your install. Also not a new thing, but still not great.
It’s definitely not going to stop someone from getting around that and pirating it.
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 2024 22:08
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A Blu-ray can hold up to 128GB. Most games aren’t bigger than that, though some are. And including multiple discs to fit the entire game used to be standard practice, and could still easily be done.
This is for DRM, online install for a physical game has always been solely for DRM.
Cadeillac@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 2024 23:46
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I truly don’t know because I’m not the demographic, but do most people have a Blu-ray drive in their PC? I got one years ago but haven’t put a disc drive in a build since.
Edit: me forgetting about consoles. I’ve been all digital on all platforms for too long. Also, has anyone printed on discs that large?
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 15:33
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Bit late to respond, but as someone else pointed out, physical PC games are virtually nonexistent. Even the collector’s edition of Baldur’s Gate 3 I recently bought came as a steam key and a disk with the steam client installer and a few files for the game to make Steam think the game is installed and force an update. I was pretty disappointed by that.
And no, most people don’t have a blu-ray drive or any kind of optical media reader in their PCs these days.
As for whether or not disks that large are printed on by publishers, most physical PS5 games are printed in disks of that capacity as are 4K blu-ray releases of movies.
Cadeillac@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 17:07
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Thank you for the response! I found this:
The PlayStation 5 does not support CDs and will not play 3D Blu-ray content. The choice of Ultra-HD Blu-ray as the disc medium means PlayStation 5 game discs can hold up to 100 GB of data, in contrast to PlayStation 4 games which usually came on dual-layer standard Blu-ray discs capable of holding up to 50 GB.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Apr 2024 07:53
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I think FFVII Rebirth came with two disks recently. It’s shitty that some companies just nicked and dime and just say “fuck you in 20 years time”
Carighan@lemmy.world
on 27 Apr 2024 18:30
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You’re new to Ubisoft, right? Ubisoft needs online on installation cm because their shit is so buggy that not even the installer could make it all the way without a crash if not for day 1 patches.
No need for DRM if the game doesn’t work!
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 15:45
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I wouldn’t say I’m new to Ubisoft, more that they haven’t released a game I’ve been interested in playing since Assassin’s Creed: Revelations.
As for day one patches being a necessity for games, I would argue that if a game has major game breaking bugs on final release (AKA launch day) then the game isn’t worth playing, much less spending money on.
If a game can’t even install on a system that meets its minimum requirements without needing a patch, then I’d say that’s a feature not a bug. Since it tells me that I should strongly reconsider purchasing anything from that publisher in the future.
rubikcuber@feddit.uk
on 11 Apr 2024 07:09
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Summzashi@lemmy.one
on 11 Apr 2024 08:42
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Who cares? As long as you’re able to play offline I don’t see why this matters at all. Out of all the shitty DRM’s these days this seems like it’s at least mildly effective without being too much of a hassle or a violation of privacy and security. Kotaku just whines about anything.
Addv4@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 2024 13:42
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It’s only required for installation, can play offline. I know it’s not great for long term preservation, but tbh this isn’t the worst drm I’ve seen.
I got shafted moving house and playing Hitman, my progress saved but I without a connection my scores didnt save. So I got to level 2 but I got no credit for level 1.
Absolutely screw all kinds of drm, I will pirste Squares 007 game if they put thebalways online shit in it.
Shadywack@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 2024 13:46
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Ummm, so do most other games???
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 2024 02:57
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They’re talking about DRM on the installer there so no, most other games don’t have that “feature”.
Red_October@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 2024 14:27
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Even on consoles is this even news anymore? It may not be every game that requires it but there’s no way this is now so unusual as to be worth pointing out in an article of it’s own. The time to get pissy about that was, what, 10 years ago?
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 2024 17:16
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Wait how would i download and install the game otherwise?
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Am I missing something here. How big is the game because online install has been a thing some 2008 because games are larger than DVD and Blu-ray disk’s.
It’s DRM to authenticate your install. Also not a new thing, but still not great.
It’s definitely not going to stop someone from getting around that and pirating it.
A Blu-ray can hold up to 128GB. Most games aren’t bigger than that, though some are. And including multiple discs to fit the entire game used to be standard practice, and could still easily be done.
This is for DRM, online install for a physical game has always been solely for DRM.
I truly don’t know because I’m not the demographic, but do most people have a Blu-ray drive in their PC? I got one years ago but haven’t put a disc drive in a build since.
Edit: me forgetting about consoles. I’ve been all digital on all platforms for too long. Also, has anyone printed on discs that large?
Physical PC games don’t exist anymore.
Bit late to respond, but as someone else pointed out, physical PC games are virtually nonexistent. Even the collector’s edition of Baldur’s Gate 3 I recently bought came as a steam key and a disk with the steam client installer and a few files for the game to make Steam think the game is installed and force an update. I was pretty disappointed by that.
And no, most people don’t have a blu-ray drive or any kind of optical media reader in their PCs these days.
As for whether or not disks that large are printed on by publishers, most physical PS5 games are printed in disks of that capacity as are 4K blu-ray releases of movies.
Thank you for the response! I found this:
I think FFVII Rebirth came with two disks recently. It’s shitty that some companies just nicked and dime and just say “fuck you in 20 years time”
You’re new to Ubisoft, right? Ubisoft needs online on installation cm because their shit is so buggy that not even the installer could make it all the way without a crash if not for day 1 patches. No need for DRM if the game doesn’t work!
I wouldn’t say I’m new to Ubisoft, more that they haven’t released a game I’ve been interested in playing since Assassin’s Creed: Revelations.
As for day one patches being a necessity for games, I would argue that if a game has major game breaking bugs on final release (AKA launch day) then the game isn’t worth playing, much less spending money on.
If a game can’t even install on a system that meets its minimum requirements without needing a patch, then I’d say that’s a feature not a bug. Since it tells me that I should strongly reconsider purchasing anything from that publisher in the future.
The whole Internet?
Mom said it’s my turn to install Star Wars!
Who cares? As long as you’re able to play offline I don’t see why this matters at all. Out of all the shitty DRM’s these days this seems like it’s at least mildly effective without being too much of a hassle or a violation of privacy and security. Kotaku just whines about anything.
It’s only required for installation, can play offline. I know it’s not great for long term preservation, but tbh this isn’t the worst drm I’ve seen.
I got shafted moving house and playing Hitman, my progress saved but I without a connection my scores didnt save. So I got to level 2 but I got no credit for level 1.
Absolutely screw all kinds of drm, I will pirste Squares 007 game if they put thebalways online shit in it.
Ummm, so do most other games???
They’re talking about DRM on the installer there so no, most other games don’t have that “feature”.
Even on consoles is this even news anymore? It may not be every game that requires it but there’s no way this is now so unusual as to be worth pointing out in an article of it’s own. The time to get pissy about that was, what, 10 years ago?
Wait how would i download and install the game otherwise?
Without internet.