Rolling Stone's List of 50 Best Video Games of All Time (www.rollingstone.com)
from lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 19:08
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JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 26 Jan 19:20 next collapse

No Disco Elysium?

I know it flopped but Titan Fall 2 is more worthy than others in that list. Also it is missing really old and influential games from the Atari 2600, 16 bit, and early PC era.

In all, it is a list put together by somebody young, that really loves Nintendo, l and with limited video game history knowledge, IMHO.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Jan 19:40 next collapse

In all, it is a list put together by somebody young, that really loves Nintendo, l and with limited video game history knowledge

Half the games on this list are from the 90’s and were on Playstation??

They even correctly clocked that Ms. Pac-Man is actually a better game than Pac-Man.

Hell, there are only three Nintendo games in the to 10, as a reminder Tetris isn’t actually a strictly Nintendo property despite being #2 in the list.

There’s six fucking games in the top 10 that were all available on various generations of Playstations.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Jan 19:45 next collapse

This list was AI generated with recency bias. You’re not going to get that on there. I fed this into GPT 4o and It was almost identical

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 19:55 collapse

I didn’t care for Disco Elysium, and my friends list is full of people who got a few hours into it like I did and then put it down. I can’t say why they did, but maybe while it really landed for some people, it didn’t for plenty of others. In a top 50 of all time, I’m not certain Titanfall 2 would make it for me either, as much as I did enjoy that game.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Jan 19:43 next collapse

No no no NO. do. NOT fucking don’t give this any views.

This list was GPT generated. Look at the list that it gave me when I asked GPT 4o for a list…it’s 85% the fucking same:

Tap for spoiler

Creating a definitive list of the top 50 best games of all time can be subjective, as it often depends on personal preferences and experiences. However, I can provide you with a list that includes many games frequently celebrated for their impact, innovation, and popularity: 1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2. Super Mario Bros. 3. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 4. Red Dead Redemption 2 5. The Last of Us 6. Tetris 7. Final Fantasy VII 8. Halo: Combat Evolved 9. Grand Theft Auto V 10. Minecraft 11. Super Mario 64 12. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 13. Dark Souls 14. Half-Life 2 15. Metal Gear Solid 16. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 17. Portal 2 18. World of Warcraft 19. Chrono Trigger 20. Bioshock 21. Mass Effect 2 22. Super Metroid 23. Resident Evil 4 24. Doom (1993) 25. Street Fighter II 26. Pokémon Red/Blue 27. Undertale 28. Shadow of the Colossus 29. God of War (2018) 30. Silent Hill 2 31. Journey 32. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 33. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 34. Diablo II 35. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 36. Bloodborne 37. Final Fantasy VI 38. Super Mario Galaxy 39. Civilization V 40. StarCraft 41. The Sims 42. League of Legends 43. Pac-Man 44. Assassin’s Creed II 45. Fortnite 46. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 47. Celeste 48. Monster Hunter: World 49. Animal Crossing: New Horizons 50. Hades This list includes a mix of classics and modern titles across various genres and platforms. Each of these games has left a significant mark on the gaming world in its own way.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Jan 19:48 next collapse

Someone has never read a Rolling Stones best of list before.

They were upsetting people over how they ranked music for decades before ChatGPT was available.

Here’s a thread where people are bitching about them in the same year ChatGPT was released. They’re talking about prior lists, so they’re not talking about AI generated ones. This has been an issue with Rolling Stone for literally decades. Everyone hates their best-of lists.

old.reddit.com/…/why_are_rolling_stone_lists_take…

I’m gonna get tired real quick of this “everything is AI and you shouldn’t engage with it” take. If you can’t handle it, get off the fucking internet and go touch grass.

EDIT: Further, each section of the article, about 2-3 paragraphs per game has a human author listed.

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Let’s just keep pretending that nobody gets paid for this kind of thing and make sure that nobody gets paid by lying and saying it’s all AI anyway, leading it to all eventually become AI anyway because everyone stopped fucking reading.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 19:53 collapse

This will happen for every “best of” list. It’s why Giant Bomb always includes the deliberations, so you can hear how they arrived there.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Jan 19:56 collapse

Each game literally has two or three paragraphs dedicated to why it was chosen with the human authors name credited at the end of each game section.

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 19:59 collapse

Yeah, but how do I know they’re not AIs with human names? /s

lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 20:03 next collapse

I would need more evidence to conclude that the list was generated using AI.

I don’t think there’s much argument over the merit of each of these games. Most “best games of all time” lists would have these games. I think it’s natural that critically acclaimed and widely beloved games show up on both the Rolling Stone’s list and in GPT 4o’s training data.

I can understand arguments regarding the order of their list however. That was my intention when submitting the link – to stir up discussion regarding the order they chose for the games.

Kelly@lemmy.world on 27 Jan 00:27 collapse

It looks like Rolling Stone included Baulders Gate 3.

That game is recent enough that it hasn’t qualified for Wikipedia’s List of video games considered the best yet.

Wikipedia’s list requires an entry feature on 6 different publications’ “best of” lists so that implies RS may have applied some and haven’t just cribbed directly.

Edit:

For anyone else interested it looks like RS was the 6th list including these three titles so they have now been added over on Wikipedia:

  • Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater
  • Celeste
  • Animal Crossing: New Horizons

I’m a little shocked THPS wasn’t already there.

OmegaMan@lemmings.world on 26 Jan 20:02 next collapse

I think there’s some massive omissions here. Not a single 3d mario? Dark souls? Mortal Kombat? The 4th best selling game of all time that spawned the Battle Royale genre PUBG? StarCraft? Warcraft 3 which also spawned the MOBA genre?

Some massive Ls here. Most of the things on the list deserve to be in the conversation but wow.

DarkFuture@lemmy.world on 27 Jan 20:33 collapse

The older I get the less I care about best lists.

It’s all subjective.

OmegaMan@lemmings.world on 27 Jan 21:47 collapse

How else am I supposed to feel important?

I’m just some guy.

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 22:56 next collapse

Well since they asked… here is my list of 50 Best Vide Games of All Time, unranked, in no particular order:

  1. The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

  2. Steel Battalion

  3. Super Mario World

  4. Metroid Prime

  5. Halo Combat Evolved

  6. Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour

  7. The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind

  8. Panzer Dragoon Orta

  9. Elden Ring

  10. Resident Evil (1996)

  11. Silent Hill 2

  12. Project Zomboid

  13. NieR Gestalt

  14. Dark Souls

  15. Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)

  16. Metal Gear Solid 3

  17. A Girl Who Chants Love At the Bound of This World YUNO (the 90s PC98 release or Windows releases, or the Saturn release)

  18. Panzer Dragoon Saga

  19. Need for Speed Underground 2

  20. Phantasy Star Online V2 (Dreamcast)

  21. Dino Crisis

  22. Brightis

  23. Policenauts (SEGA Saturn release)

  24. Yakuza 0

  25. XCOM 2

  26. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic

  27. The Coma Recut

  28. Super Metroid

  29. No Man’s Sky

  30. The Forest

  31. Shenmue

  32. Hollow Knight

  33. Star Wars Tie Fighter

  34. Crimson Skies

  35. Factorio

  36. Age of Empires II (Definitive Edition is actually better than the original for once)

  37. Metal Wolf Chaos

  38. Minecraft

  39. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle

  40. Battlefield 4

  41. Deep Rock Galactic

  42. King’s Field II (Japan, aka King’s Field globally)

  43. Half Life

  44. Quake II

  45. Splinter Cell

  46. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Rogue Spear

  47. Elite Dangerous

  48. MechAssault

  49. The Operative No One Lives Forever

  50. Gauntlet Dark Legacy

Thank you for reading my article, now give me ad revenue.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Jan 23:11 next collapse

Fuck yeah for Steel Battalion. With the rise of VR this would be an amazing game to come back to…too bad Capcom has no interest in it after Heavy Armor

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world on 26 Jan 23:17 collapse

Heavy Armor wasn’t FromSoftware’s fault, it was Capcom’s for forcing the Kinect as a controller. If they had made another controller for it like the first game, it definitely would have been better.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Jan 23:34 collapse

That is heartbreaking

iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world on 27 Jan 22:19 collapse

I really want to like elite dangerous, but it’s so boring! The flight and controls (HOTAS) are amazing and hella immersive, but God damn if there’s something to do that isn’t grindy as fuck.

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world on 27 Jan 22:44 collapse

Its realistic, as opposed to Star Citizen which leans more on “rule of cool, not rule of real.” Real life space is boring. 99% of all planets that arent big gas balls are just big ice rocks. Ships are big, slow, heavy objects that take time to maneuver. Elite has a simulated galactic economy, which can be directly influenced by just a single dedicated player. It contains fantasy political turf scuffles, colony expansion, and all sort of other stuff. You can be pretty much anything, a bounty hunter, a miner, a merchant, a taxi, they even added first person shooter parts with the Odyssey DLC (like what Star Citizen already had).

Personally I think what people think about Elite Dangerous is also why so many people complain about Starfield. I like Starfield. While not perfect, it does a good job of mostly “realistic” space portrayal, even if it does contain some fantasy elements. Problem is, people were disappointed with Starfield because they expected Star Wars Skyrim, but got Elite Dangerous Skyrim instead. They wanted even more fantasy where Starfield leaned more into realism. If you like Elite Dangerous, there is a pretty good chance you will like Starfield. But if you don’t like Elite, you probably won’t like Starfield.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 26 Jan 23:46 next collapse

People still read Rolling Stone?

StudChud@aussie.zone on 27 Jan 00:04 next collapse

For anyone who wants this list without reading the article :)

List

50: Animal Crossing: New Horizons (2020)
49: Hades (2020)
48: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (1997)
47: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (1992)
46: League of Legends (2009)
45: Fortnite (2017)
44: Elden Ring (2022)
43: Celeste (2018)
42: Batman: Arkham City (2011)
41: Metroid Prime (2002)
40: Chrono Trigger (1995)
39: God of War (2018)
38: Shadow of the Colossus (2005)
37: Pokémon Gold and Silver (1999)
36: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2018)
35: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (1992)
34: Hollow Knight (2017)
33: NBA 2K11 (2010)
32: Ms. Pac-Man (1982)
31: Counter-Strike (1999)
30: Wii Sports (2006)
29: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (2009)
28: Minecraft (2011)
27: Resident Evil 4 (2005)
26: Mass Effect 2 (2010)
25: Stardew Valley (2016)
24: The Sims (2000)
23: Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater (1999)
22: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007)
21: Fallout 3 (2008)
20: Mario Kart 64 (1996)
19: Baldur’s Gate 3 (2023)
18: Madden NFL 2004 (2003)
17: Diablo II (2000)
16: Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018)
15: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (2015)
14: Street Fighter II (1991)
13: Doom (1993)
12: World of Warcraft (2004)
11: Halo: Combat Evolved (2001)
10: Super Metroid (1994)
9: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011)
8: Final Fantasy VII (1997)
7: Metal Gear Solid (1998)
6: Half-Life 2 (2004)
5: The Last of Us (2013)
4: Super Mario World (1991)
3: Grand Theft Auto V (2013)
2: Tetris (1989)
1: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017)

Agrivar@lemmy.world on 27 Jan 20:08 next collapse

Thank you!

GooberEar@lemmy.wtf on 27 Jan 20:33 collapse

Doing the lawd’s work, so I also thank you.

GooberEar@lemmy.wtf on 27 Jan 20:41 collapse

So, looks like I’ve played 19 of these games. Although not all of them were my thing and some of them I’ve barely played more than once briefly, I’ll agree that they were all pretty solidly good.

A few of the others are on my wish list (especially now that they’re available on PC) so maybe one day I’ll be able to agree or disagree.

I enjoy seeing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on these greatest games lists because back in the days when it was originally released, it seemed like it was practically ignored in my social circle. At the time, if a game wasn’t using low fidelity, standard definition polygon-based graphics (aka 3D), it had to be a fighting game or it would be completely ignored. Yet, that particular game was one of my favorites of the era and I didn’t get to enjoy it with anybody else at the time because they just saw it as a lame 2D game.