Next Xbox Rumors Surface; No Devkits Available to Developers Yet (aiming for 2027); EDIT: And new handheld later this year (www.dualshockers.com)
from ampersandrew@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 16:59
https://lemmy.world/post/26625018

From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 10 Mar 2025 17:38 next collapse

Xbox lost the console wars and is retreating to PC. This makes sense

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 19:18 next collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 19:34 collapse

Sony’s not doing great right now either. They’re either matching or several million units behind where they were with the PS4 at the same point in the console generation; given that their closest competition has been decimated, that’s not great for them. They don’t make games as quickly as they used to, which means they don’t make as many as they used to, and their margins are slimmer on their successes while the failures like Concord and PSVR2 hurt more. Both of those consoles are rapidly headed toward a future that only looks like personal computers for high-end gaming. Nintendo is at least mostly immune to this for at least the Switch 2 generation.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 00:35 collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 00:40 next collapse

That’s comparing Pro to Pro. I meant all PS5s were trailing behind all PS4s by several million units at the same point in time as of a few months ago. Allegedly, after that report was published, Sony had their best PlayStation quarter ever, but I don’t remember if they disclosed which metric they were measuring that in, and there’s a good chance their best quarter ever still didn’t make up that deficit.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 01:02 collapse

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Hyphlosion@lemm.ee on 11 Mar 2025 14:09 collapse

Can I have a turkey sandwich?

ryathal@sh.itjust.works on 11 Mar 2025 11:46 collapse

Retreating to PC makes sense, because PC won the console war.

Hyphlosion@lemm.ee on 11 Mar 2025 14:07 collapse

PC will never “win” a console war because it lacks the plug and play convenience of consoles.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 14:39 collapse

Tell that to PC’s growth and consoles’ decline. Plus the new Xboxes mentioned in this very article are seeking to be exactly that, much like what the Steam Deck does today. It will play PC games but will be called an Xbox.

Hyphlosion@lemm.ee on 11 Mar 2025 16:02 collapse

Okay I will.

PC isn’t a part of the console war and therefore can’t “win.”

Happy? I told it.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 16:58 collapse

If consoles cease to exist as we know them because they just became PCs, then what does that mean for a console war?

Hyphlosion@lemm.ee on 12 Mar 2025 07:42 collapse

Why is there even a console war in the first place? Who really cares these days? Just get what you want.

Me? I’m lazy and don’t want to put the effort into building a PC or worrying about optimization, viruses, etc. So I just get a gaming box to plug in and play.

Bruhman482@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 17:39 next collapse

A windows PC with a custom shell is surprisingly good for gaming. I modified my gaming machine to skip sign in, windows explorer, and a multitude of other services so it boots straight into steam big picture. My Epic, EA, and gamepass games are automatically added to Steam with proper artwork. Feels like SteamOS but with some nice things from windows like working anricheat and lossless scaling support.

Gointhefridge@lemm.ee on 10 Mar 2025 21:12 collapse

How do you skip sign in? That’s the single worst feature in windows.

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 17:40 next collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 19:35 next collapse

Gyro support wouldn’t hurt.

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 20:13 next collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 20:18 collapse

Did Mario Galaxy use gyroscopic controls? I thought it just used the IR sensor. If I’m correct, these are two different things. If you’ve played Splatoon with the gyro controls, you might see the benefit. Alternately, you can do this with Steam input on just about anything if you have a controller with the feature.

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 20:38 next collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 21:04 collapse

Gotcha. It still might not be the best sample set for getting a feel for what the controls have to offer, if you have the means to give it a try in other games. I think it’s better at aiming/shooting than the right analog stick has ever been.

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 22:35 collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 2025 22:49 collapse

Not even a competitive edge, as I don’t really play multiplayer shooters anymore. It just feels more intuitive (though some additional bothersome setup is often required to tune it right). You can also move it via your elbows rather than wrists. But in any case, gyro would be nice to have in Xbox controllers. I found playing something like Returnal on an analog stick to be a huge pain, and it’s great when you can get that extra oomph out of your input device.

[deleted] on 10 Mar 2025 22:56 collapse

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Nilz@sopuli.xyz on 10 Mar 2025 23:37 collapse

The Nintendo Wii used gyroscopic controls (first gen original controllers only had accelerometers. The Wii Motion Plus add-on added gyroscopes, but later controllers integrated both into a single unit). The IR bar was just for the Wii controller to figure out which detection was towards the TV.

LiveLM@lemmy.zip on 11 Mar 2025 01:45 collapse

IKR???
Xbox execs run from Gyro like it personally killed their mother

uniquethrowagay@feddit.org on 10 Mar 2025 23:17 next collapse

Gyroscope and back buttons would be nice. Maybe even a touch sensitive stick like the steam deck has. I like the shape and layout of the Xbox controllers, but they really lag behind feature wise.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 00:04 next collapse

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uniquethrowagay@feddit.org on 11 Mar 2025 07:35 collapse

And that’s perfectly fine :)

Katana314@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 13:20 next collapse

If we got a Gyroscope on Xbox, then all major controllers would have it - allowing for the possibility of cross platform games where people can use gyro ironsights to aim. That would be awesome.

moakley@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 14:54 collapse

The elite controller has customizable back buttons, which are awesome.

shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works on 11 Mar 2025 02:05 next collapse

I just fucking want HE joysticks.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 02:23 collapse

Well I’ve had three of thier controllers die due to stick shift so there seems to be a fucking reason to me.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 03:18 collapse

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njm1314@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 03:29 next collapse

That’s an impressive ability to ignore an extremely widely known issue. Hey by the way just as a heads up there’s also this thing going on called climate change.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 03:36 collapse

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 11:17 collapse

I’ve had this too.

[deleted] on 11 Mar 2025 13:03 collapse

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Flamekebab@piefed.social on 10 Mar 2025 19:56 next collapse

Sounds like I'm never going to have a reason to buy a current generation console.

guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works on 11 Mar 2025 05:53 next collapse

What the fuck we’re 5 years into this console gen? They didn’t even start releasing the real games yet. I can’t think of a single Xbox exclusive titles and ps5 has what, astro bot and the friggin 17th FF7 remake?

moakley@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 2025 14:53 collapse

PS5 had Spider-Man 2.

For Xbox Series X there’s Starfield.

For the generation as a whole, it was worth upgrading for Baldur’s Gate 3.

Hyphlosion@lemm.ee on 11 Mar 2025 14:16 collapse

Not sure why people are acting surprised about this. The generations usually have been between 5-7 years. It will already have been five years this upcoming November. So 2027 sounds about right.