GTA V was released on this day, 12 years ago
from skepller@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:26
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FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:48 next collapse

I don’t even care about GTA 6 anymore. It’s just going to be a grift anyway.

Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:52 next collapse

Damn we got FenderStratocaster not caring about GTA6 before we got GTA6

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 16:55 collapse

Trump’s first and second non-consecutive terms.

lolrightythen@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:29 collapse

#3 is gonna be a doozy if he’s still alive

lolrightythen@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:30 next collapse

Starting a comment with “#” makes it large, apparently

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:46 next collapse

what?

edgemaster72@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 22:41 next collapse

That’s markdown for you. Increasing the number of #'s decreases the size.

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RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com on 18 Sep 11:55 collapse

We don’t need to know about the state of your weinor, buddy.

Gonzako@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:32 collapse

we’d make a bet. Trumps policies bankrupt 2k or Gta6 comes out

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:16 next collapse

I don’t think you know what grift means.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:18 collapse

A group of methods for obtaining money falsely through the use of swindles, frauds, dishonest gambling.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:27 collapse

GTA is a crime story video game. “Dishonest gambling” doesn’t mean “gambling I don’t like”. A science-based dragon MMO Kickstarter is a grift. GTA 6 is a video game.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:33 collapse

Are you unaware of GTA online? I’m talking about milking gamers for weak content for the next 12 years.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:38 collapse

Are you unaware that there’s a component of GTA 6 besides GTA online? Even in the online mode, they’re milking gamers for weak content using regular gambling. A grift would be like a carnival game that appears winnable but actually never is. For your gambling money, you do get “stuff” in GTA 6, even if you or I would consider it a poor value. I don’t know why a shitty online mode would make me want to play a good crime story single player mode less, but the mere existence of the single player mode easily makes it more than “just” that.

RonnieB@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:07 collapse

Imagine witnessing the evolution of predatory practices in gaming for the past two decades and still arguing in favor of giant corporations.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:09 collapse

I just think that if you’re going to call something a grift, it should actually be one, because words have meaning. We can call it all sorts of other things. “Predatory” is a good one. I myself called it “shitty”. That’s not arguing in favor of a giant corporation. You can’t just pick your favorite negative descriptor when it doesn’t apply.

datavoid@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 18:26 next collapse

I’m willing to bet GTA VI’s single player, offline campaign will be groundbreaking.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:28 next collapse

Honestly, I’m not. Rockstar has changed their formula very little since 2008. But I don’t exactly have a lot of options for crime stories anymore, and they’ve been telling good stories for just as long as they’ve had this format.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:50 collapse

What makes you say that? What sort of things could they add that would make it better for you? I for one, would love the content that’s in GTA online to be available in singleplayer.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:48 collapse

You are being pedantic. You derailed the conversation from the game to definitions of words, because your argument was shallow to begin with.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:53 collapse

You called it something it wasn’t, either because you misunderstood the definition or willfully misrepresented it. That was the argument. The game can be criticized in all sorts of ways, but “grift” makes no sense here, assuming they’re doing what GTA V did and didn’t come up with some crazy new scheme that hasn’t been detailed yet. And even if the online mode was a deterrent to you, there’s a whole other part of the game above and beyond the online mode where you never have to even see that stuff that could make the game worth playing, meaning it wouldn’t be “just” a grift.

Ankkuli@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 18:59 next collapse

Why is this type of comment so popular on Lemmy? We are supposed to hate absolutely anything here for some reason.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 19:12 next collapse

I don’t hate everything. I hate the fact that GTA V has been milked for 12 years. I like other stuff. I like Apex Legends. Smash brothers.

big_slap@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 19:38 next collapse

remember: people who have something to complain about will post much more frequently. since the fediverse is smaller, these types of comments are found more frequently

Ulrich@feddit.org on 17 Sep 20:43 next collapse

for some reason.

Several reasons, really.

bvoigtlaender@feddit.org on 18 Sep 07:21 collapse

Don’t get it either, maybe it also something to do with lemmys demographic being older. ( I believe that is the case with Mastodon vs. Twitter ) Sure it is sad that the planed single-player content was scraped for multiplayer ( even though i had lots of fun with the multiplayer as well, at least in its early days. ) But why crying about VI when it hasnt been released yet? Just see when it comes out…

chiliedogg@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:46 collapse

The multi-player maybe. But they’ve consistently delivered excellent single-player experiences with their flagship titles. GTA 3, VC, SA, IV, and V were all amazing. RDR1 was spectacular, and RDR2 may be the most impressive game I’ve ever played.

At this point, I trust Tockstar to deliver a good single-player game. I don’t really expect much in the way of the quality DLC we got with GTAIV and RDR, but I think the base game will easily be enough for me to justify a purchase.

I’m still gonna wait and see, of course. They’re not getting a pre-order out of me.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:51 collapse

I’d agree with everything about the previous games. However, I think they made 10 billion dollars off of GTA online and wouldn’t be surprised if they focus more on that and leave the single player to the wayside.

Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:10 next collapse

Scooter brother!

Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org on 17 Sep 17:20 next collapse

GTA VI I feel is going to stretch about 4 generations of gaming before ever seeing VII.

GTA V has started in the PS3/360 era, went through the PS4/One era, is sitting in the PS5/X era and we're now about 2-3 years away from the next gen of gaming to happen.

Also it is hard for me to believe we got both GTA IV and GTA V in the same generation.

Demdaru@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:54 collapse

There’s possibility that GTA VII will come faster. Rockstar does waves on new engine versions. GTA I + II, engine switch, GTA III, VC, SA, engine switch, GTA IV, GTA V, possibly engine switch?, GTA VI, GTA VII? Or some offspin?

Problem is, they smelled online money so dunno.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:31 next collapse

Seems about right. Feels like I haven’t played GTA for a decade.

Every now and then internet reminds me it’s a thing, though.

brsrklf@jlai.lu on 17 Sep 17:52 next collapse

In two months Skyrim will be 14.

And don’t get me started on F-Zero.

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 17:58 next collapse

6 is never going to live up to the hype and will be riddled with micro transactions and GaaS shoved up its ass.

Stop paying attention to what the big corporations are pumping out. Go play something made my people that give a shit about the game and not the “potential revenue” it might create.

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 18:41 next collapse

III, VC, SA, IV and even V are some of the best (edit: best-selling) games of all time. No need for new ones

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:45 collapse

Really aren’t. GTA has had the most dated mission structure since part 3.

Their Gangs and crimes stories are also weak.

SA was the only one that had something to say.

Psythik@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 19:53 next collapse

Glad you’re getting upvoted for this. Every time I mention how outdated RDR2 felt at launch, I get downvoted. But it’s true. For a game about an outlaw, you sure have to follow a lot of rules to play the game as the developers intended.

BroBot9000@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 20:04 next collapse

Yeah for a “dynamic open world” it sure consists of a bunch of linear missions and rigged structure.

Thats a classic video and definitely one of the first I’ve seen outside of Zero Punctuation that has been honest about the GTA games.

drcobaltjedi@programming.dev on 17 Sep 20:51 collapse

Man, I tried multiple times to get into RDR2. I really want to like it, and I love RDR. But my god that game feels like a job with all the small things you need to remember to do.

Man, even the gun system annoyed me. I’m fine with them having like 4 slots or whatever it was for weapons, but I remember so many times riding to a mission on my horse, selecting the guns I wanted to use and after like 50 feet Arthur would decide “welp, I’m not using these guns, better shove em back in my horse” leadong me to not having a gun ready at the start of a mission. I think that was the straw the broke the camels back for me, just hold the guns I selected Arthur.

Psythik@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 00:07 collapse

Couldn’t agree more, the weapon system is incredibly frustrating too. I solved that problem simply by using a trainer to mod all the weapons to have the same stats. That way I can just use whatever gun Arthur grabs and not worry about it.

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Sep 06:09 collapse

I am speaking by number of copies sold. Actually valuing the games, what do you think is the most solid GTA?

rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 07:28 collapse

If you’re just talking about number of copies sold, using the term “best” is confusing

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Sep 09:38 collapse

You’re right. I edited my original comment

teamevil@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:05 next collapse

I’ve literally purchased a Xbox series X for this game, moved to and moved back from south Florida and it’s still not out…I can imagine this is live up to expectations but I also can’t imagine it won’t live up to expectations…

ramble81@lemmy.zip on 17 Sep 21:32 next collapse

Honestly they could have released single player DLC for V and made a load of money without having to even develop VI

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 18 Sep 07:32 collapse

The multiplayer will be like that.

But I’m not here for that, and Rockstar and Naughty Dog are in the “haven’t let me down yet” club.

leave_it_blank@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:10 next collapse

I liked GTA V, but after finishing it I drove around for a few hours and the never touched it again. I’m not really sure why.

I still go back to Vice City and San Andreas, somehow these worlds are just more fun. But like I said, I’m not sure why…

The graphics in 5 are great, the sound is great, but something is missing…

psx_crab@lemmy.zip on 18 Sep 01:18 collapse

Because once you finished the story there’s really not much sidemission for you to play, and the world suddenly feel very empty without the excellent characters. I quit the same way.

Flamekebab@piefed.social on 18 Sep 10:04 collapse

I’m glad it’s not just me. It’s a lonely experience.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com on 17 Sep 19:42 next collapse

I think GTA 6 will be an outstanding game, but I also think it will be Rockstar’s greediest release to date. I will make sure to consider everything before I buy it.

maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:36 collapse

As greedy as GTA V was with its multiplayer, Rockstar has a history of releasing a good single player base game before they start with that, and looking as GTA VI leaked map, I don’t see that changing now. It’ll definitely be nothing more than a single player experience for me though.

Plus, were might have to wait one or two years to play it on PC, especially on Linux, so there’s a lot of time for considerations…

timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works on 18 Sep 01:40 collapse

I guess I don’t understand. I got V and paid literally nothing past that.

The experience was great. No one has to buy shark cards or whatever the hell they are.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com on 18 Sep 02:01 collapse

The problem with V for me was that they released content for GTA Online for years and completely ignored singleplayer. So many heists, weapons, vehicles, outfits, and game mechanics that would have been awesome to try solo, but were only available with a damn internet connection and in a world with other players. Thankfully mods fixed some of that. But it’s not the same because you mostly have to spawn things in with a cheat menu.

taiyang@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 19:49 next collapse

It’s a fantastic documentary; as an LA native, I recommend playing through the story to better understand our diverse culture of shallow rich folks, inner city gents, and meth-addled drug countrymen.

In fact, pirate it to truly honor my culture. Lol

Nikls94@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 20:11 next collapse

Keep in mind that GTA V released in the PS3 - which is now considered a retro console.

maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:43 next collapse

Though it was a completely different game than what we’ve come to know as GTA V after the PC release, in terms of graphics and content. And even then I remember grabbing snacks to watch the loading screen…

edgemaster72@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 22:37 collapse

I refuse to entertain the idea of PS3 being retro until at least next year, when it turns 20. Now you might say “okay then, GTA V also came out on Xbox 360, which turns 20 in about 2 months” to which I say… get off my lawn!

ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 22:49 next collapse

For some reason this made me feel much older than knowing GAT V launched 11 years ago. I grew up with an NES.

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 08:00 collapse

Last GTA I played was vice city, I think that was on the PS1.

Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 20:19 next collapse

Gotta love Steven Ogg.

nevetsg@aussie.zone on 17 Sep 21:43 next collapse

I pick up GTA V as an Epic store free game of the week. It was the gateway drug the sent me down the dark and seedy parth of collecting every free Epic game for evermore. I have Hundreds of games I will never play but I keep on collecting them. It is my vice, my drug.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip on 18 Sep 06:40 collapse

Digital hoarding! Welcome to the club.

ook@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Sep 07:38 collapse

Free games from epic games store is NOT hoarding. You don’t really own them. The minute epic decides they are done with that store, you are out of luck and all your games.

Getting free games via Amazon Prime from GOG however would be actual digital hoarding, since you can download and save the installer of every game there.

nevetsg@aussie.zone on 18 Sep 08:11 collapse

Oh, I get those ones as well and…

Tomorrow is free game day!!

ook@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Sep 08:20 collapse

Me too, don’t have prime currently so I am always looking out at the free games and giveaway communities if someone is sharing.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:55 next collapse

Meanwhile Skyrim came out the week my daughter was born, and she’s in high school now. We still don’t have a new elder scrolls

jjjalljs@ttrpg.network on 17 Sep 22:04 next collapse

No… no that’s impossible… fuck. 14 years, huh? I remember it was 11/11/11 and there were ads for it on city buses, and I thought “wow i guess video games are mainstream now”

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 18 Sep 01:07 next collapse

Yeah, that is crazy to me. I understand them wanting to make other games in between and that making those games takes a few years each. Rationally, I’m on board with the decision-making and the math that leads to this.
But that the result is a generation who didn’t have an Elder Scrolls part released in their childhood, that still feels like far too grand of a concept.

greybeard@feddit.online on 18 Sep 11:36 collapse

What are you talking about, there's a new Elder Scrolls release every year. Skyrim Remastered, Skyrim Deluxe. Skyrim Limited Edition. Skyrim for Switch. Skyrim Premium Deluxe for Switch, the list goes on.

OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml on 18 Sep 03:15 next collapse

Its been that long 😅 no way

drath@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 05:38 next collapse

But what about TESO?

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 07:09 collapse

Don’t you put that evil on me!

echodot@feddit.uk on 18 Sep 18:24 collapse

Have you tried having another kid?

BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 22:22 next collapse

I’ve lived in the same GTA house longer than I’ve lived in any real home.

WanderWisley@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 23:50 collapse

The cars I own in GTA V I’ve had longer than the current car that’s sitting in my driveway.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Sep 22:33 next collapse

Coming up on 14 years for Skyrim.

They’ve both been propped up by pay-to-win bullshit online games that have diluted the formula. I remember when GTA V was new (ish) and while the controls took some getting used to, and some of the minigames were bullshit (Rockstar games have wonky controls), the game was fun as hell. Zero interest in the online stuff. It never appealed to me. I did try Elder Scrolls Online, and also Fallout 76. This online shit makes them money, it’s a surprise they’re even bothering with a GTA VI. The next GTA Online is really what they should be focused on (though I’ll always root for the single player games). After the last couple Fallouts and Starfield, I don’t even have any hope for Elder Scrolls VI. GTA VI at least looks like it might actually be good. But screw paying $100 for it.

rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 07:26 collapse

I’m out of the loop with GTA VI, but the last I knew of it the only thing they’d released was a cinematic, non-gameplay trailer. Have they released gameplay now?

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Sep 10:45 collapse

I don’t know if they released any gameplay, but IIRC some leaked (from an early build).

radiouser@crazypeople.online on 18 Sep 07:38 next collapse

I’m still salty that Rockstar seemingly broke GTA V for Linux on purpose. I poured hours into Online and loved the Community I found, so it’s a real shame they shut out Linux and Steam Deck users for good by adding BattleEye without Linux support. I was pretty much done with the game by then, but that move solidified my personal boycott of Rockstar.

GenosseFlosse@feddit.org on 18 Sep 12:18 next collapse

Online ist dead. 5 mins in and I’m getting headshots from a guy across the map with a K:D of 3000:1. Everything online costs real money or endless grind. Waiting for 15 mins in a lobby, only that the host logs out 2 mins into the mission.

Krompus@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 17:21 collapse

GTAO is trash, always has been.

PieMePlenty@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 07:51 next collapse

Man I remember this photo. Bought V for 360, beat it and haven’t touched it since. After Gay Tony and The Lost and Damned I waited for a story expansion that never came.

handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip on 18 Sep 13:55 next collapse

You mean you didn’t buy it four more times for various platforms over the years? Wow, that’s impressive 👏 Do you do that with all games?

GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk on 18 Sep 15:29 next collapse

I bought it, played a little, but was working 60 hour weeks.
Housemate starting playing on my savegame, so when I next got back to it, I had no idea what was going on.
Haven’t gone back to it since, though I have nearly finished IV a few times now.

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 15:51 collapse

All the story DLC ended up being modified for online.

weissbinder@feddit.org on 18 Sep 14:37 next collapse

Is that Thomas from the channel Bogensportwelt?

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Sep 15:57 collapse

Hmm, maybe it’s time to try out that game

echodot@feddit.uk on 18 Sep 18:18 collapse

The online mode a not worth it unless your idea of a good time is getting blown up ever 5 seconds