OK, I personally think 1404 with the interesting and challenging campaign including the Venice dlc was the top, afterwards I think 1800 is the next best. My most controversial opinion is that both 2070 and 2205 where good and well made games, with some flaws of course but that doesn’t mean its bad. Shure some disliked the setting and I was septic as well.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Nov 14:52
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Never played the futuristic ones. What appealed to me with the anno games was the atmosphere of sails and settlers.
Yeah a setting change like that was very risky, but the next is also going to be very interesting going into the opposid direction.
I quite like SciFi so the setting itself wasn’t a problem for me. 1800 goes into the steampunk direction, would appreciate a full on Steampunk Anno. And a Dieselpunk version would be cool as well.
Yea, I mean Watchdogs 2, The Division, Steep, I know some friends loved For Honor and R6: Siege is amazing (idk how the game looks today tho with all the updates they made).
Seems people tend to see ubisoft as AC and FarCry only.
Katana314@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 16:35
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I still applaud Watch Dogs 2 for integrating offline and online play much better than Dark Souls did. You can still pause the game, for instance.
Harvey656@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 16:42
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All of those games you just picked are quite old, watchdogs 2 came out in 2016, these games no longer are the ubishit standard, they are far above it. Plus Ubispft doesn’t make sequels to those games anymore, for whatever reason.
I’ve watched huge vtubers play it multiple times and every single time the game ends early from a crash. Or the game accidentally bankrupts a player. It’s bad publicity
Assassins creed has been consistently disappointing me since Black Flag.
AC2 used to be my favourite game and the modern titles are unrecognisable. They’re all just a bunch of generic, drawn out, mass appeal, play it safe bollocks.
Which is not a really good criticism in my opnion. It still had a lot of the core elements of AC, they just tried some new things. And a lot of it worked out.
guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Nov 16:52
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Agreed. As a game it was one of the best Ubi has done maybe ever imo.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Nov 15:31
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I enjoyed Origins, Odyssey just felt so… empty. I couldn’t bring myself to do the post-game content I was so bored with it. I got to the Medusa and just… stopped. Have no desire to go back to it.
I enjoyed Origins as well. To me Odyssey was a more refined version of Origins. Better exploration, combat, etc. Odyssey focused more on exploration which is maybe why you felt it was more empty? I enjoyed it personally but it’s definitely a preference thing.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Nov 16:00
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There was definitely more exploration but all the “dungeons” were just cookie cutter copy/paste sections from what I remember, Origins at least had some unique puzzles
As in you didn’t like Black Flag, or that was the last one you did? I’m currently replaying it for the first time since it came out and it’s alright so far. I completely forgot everything from the story
The most upsetting thing is that they threw out anything resembling a decent narrative to draw out the series with diminishing returns. We never got closure on the templars and modern storylines are ignored now. We could have had closure and then just had everything in animus after.
It kinda bothers me that they didn’t at least go all in with switching up the story.
At this point the whole “assassin’s creed” part kinda holds the narrative and story back, I think they should just drop it entirely and have each game be its own thing.
I loved the assassin thing when I was 12, but it’s kinda cringe now.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
on 05 Nov 14:54
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Unity had a rough launch, but that was the most “assassin” feeling assassin’s creed imo
And I’ll say it again, dumb “quotation” because it only referred to convincing people to try Ubisoft+; which is very explicitly a game rental system.
(Setting aside the change going in through California law where ALL retailers must stop referring to sales as ownership. That affects Assassin’s Creed just as much as your next indie Roguelike)
You don’t even need to go sailing, you can just stop at not buying their games. Ubisoft has not put out any game I’d really consider a must-play in over a decade. The last interesting Ubisoft open-world game was Black Flag in 2013. Even if you’re an absolute glutton for open-world designed by committee slop, Sony basically ate Ubisoft’s lunch with Ghosts of Tsushima, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Spiderman. Pirate those instead.
garretble@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 15:38
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It seems like to me some of their games simply just need another two months in the oven.
There were lots of little bugs in Star Wars Outlaws, but I found that game to be really fun, and largely pretty solid. But then they dropped updates a month out or so that fixed a lot of those little bugs. I wonder if they had just had that extra month to polish it up if it’d have gotten slammed as hard. People may still have wanted different things storywise or whatever, but on a technical level just one extra month could have helped.
Polish isn’t going to help change the Ubisoft reputation of churning same looking games filled with massive bloaty copy-paste open worlds where you do generic fetch quests, collect hundreds of feathers, and watch watered down PG-13 storytelling that’s tamer than a Marvel movie.
Outlaws looked great, and had you go to interesting locations, and fly in space. There were no towers to open up maps. The outlaw system wasn’t super amazing in the end, but it didn’t detract from anything.
I don’t disagree it has a reputation, but Outlaws was a fun break from the super boring Assassin’s Creed games of late.
Ubisoft games have such a weird “design by committee” feel to it. Like they poll the internet every few weeks and make decisions off of that. New hot game has battle pass? WE HAVE BATTLE PASS.
They also seem to follow a checklist of mediocrity. Every game needs a dozen collectable items. Every game needs to have the same l types of quests that GTA3 had. Every game has to have a massive open world. Every game needs a online component and live service. Every game needs a incredible hook, which then they Marvel-safe it to avoid offending online babies.
Their games come off with 7/10 energy. Ubisoft games don’t move the needle. They’re pretty adequate as a game. But when I have thousands of games to choose from every year… Ill pass.
Katana314@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 16:34
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They CAN still be fun. General fact of the matter is that the games we find fun aren’t always necessarily innovating much. Sometimes it’s just a comfortable routine.
Absolutely not going to fault anyone that finds their games boring though.
I played the Division 2, Ac Valhalla and FarCry 6 for 100+ hours. They helped me during the worse times of the pandemic.
But if I was talking to friends or making recommendations, we’d be taking about games that are better than that. The Elden Rings or the Ghost of Tsushima
I think the problem is that they use the same open world formula that they started, but others have taken and improved it and they haven’t kept up with the times. Shadow of Mordor/war scratch the same itsch as assassin’s creed with more interesting mechanics. Those aren’t even new games at this point. Horizon zero dawn and forbidden West offer a more action focused experience with a better open world, again not super modern games.
It’s like Bethesda, they are still putting out games that are straight from 2010.
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I disagree. Ubisoft has been very consistently trash for a while.
Not really, look at anno for example. Its just the big titles that are regarded as not good.
1602 was the best Anno. Fight me.
OK, I personally think 1404 with the interesting and challenging campaign including the Venice dlc was the top, afterwards I think 1800 is the next best. My most controversial opinion is that both 2070 and 2205 where good and well made games, with some flaws of course but that doesn’t mean its bad. Shure some disliked the setting and I was septic as well.
Never played the futuristic ones. What appealed to me with the anno games was the atmosphere of sails and settlers.
They bring that atmosphere to the future settings very well actually
I agree on 2070 and 2205. I really enjoyed them and I chalked it up to me liking sci-fi enough to be able to bear it.
Yeah a setting change like that was very risky, but the next is also going to be very interesting going into the opposid direction.
I quite like SciFi so the setting itself wasn’t a problem for me. 1800 goes into the steampunk direction, would appreciate a full on Steampunk Anno. And a Dieselpunk version would be cool as well.
Yea, I mean Watchdogs 2, The Division, Steep, I know some friends loved For Honor and R6: Siege is amazing (idk how the game looks today tho with all the updates they made).
Seems people tend to see ubisoft as AC and FarCry only.
Some people love to shit on ubisoft when others are way worse.
I have enough shit to go around.
I still applaud Watch Dogs 2 for integrating offline and online play much better than Dark Souls did. You can still pause the game, for instance.
All of those games you just picked are quite old, watchdogs 2 came out in 2016, these games no longer are the ubishit standard, they are far above it. Plus Ubispft doesn’t make sequels to those games anymore, for whatever reason.
I personally loved Avatar and Outlaws.
They’re not groundbreaking games, but they’re both very immersive and for fans of both franchises it’s a lot more fun to explore in these games.
Their current Monopoly game is infamously bad
OK, but who gives a shit about a monopoly game? Either play it like a normal person, when drinking with friends or don’t.
I’ve watched huge vtubers play it multiple times and every single time the game ends early from a crash. Or the game accidentally bankrupts a player. It’s bad publicity
HM… Yeah thats Bad publicity.
But that never happened to me, and I played both games for over 200 hours each. I even played them on Linux through emulation and it didn’t happen.
Assassins creed has been consistently disappointing me since Black Flag.
AC2 used to be my favourite game and the modern titles are unrecognisable. They’re all just a bunch of generic, drawn out, mass appeal, play it safe bollocks.
Odyssey was pretty dam good in my opinion.
It was. Most of it’s criticism comes from the fact that it’s not really an assassin’s creed game anymore. It was mostly far cry: ancient greece
Which is not a really good criticism in my opnion. It still had a lot of the core elements of AC, they just tried some new things. And a lot of it worked out.
Agreed. As a game it was one of the best Ubi has done maybe ever imo.
I enjoyed Origins, Odyssey just felt so… empty. I couldn’t bring myself to do the post-game content I was so bored with it. I got to the Medusa and just… stopped. Have no desire to go back to it.
I enjoyed Origins as well. To me Odyssey was a more refined version of Origins. Better exploration, combat, etc. Odyssey focused more on exploration which is maybe why you felt it was more empty? I enjoyed it personally but it’s definitely a preference thing.
There was definitely more exploration but all the “dungeons” were just cookie cutter copy/paste sections from what I remember, Origins at least had some unique puzzles
True, now you’re making me want to replay Origins lol.
As in you didn’t like Black Flag, or that was the last one you did? I’m currently replaying it for the first time since it came out and it’s alright so far. I completely forgot everything from the story
Black flag was good, everything after has disappointed me in one way or another.
The most upsetting thing is that they threw out anything resembling a decent narrative to draw out the series with diminishing returns. We never got closure on the templars and modern storylines are ignored now. We could have had closure and then just had everything in animus after.
It kinda bothers me that they didn’t at least go all in with switching up the story.
At this point the whole “assassin’s creed” part kinda holds the narrative and story back, I think they should just drop it entirely and have each game be its own thing.
I loved the assassin thing when I was 12, but it’s kinda cringe now.
Unity had a rough launch, but that was the most “assassin” feeling assassin’s creed imo
Yeah, I do wonder about giving that another go.
just don’t buy their games. it’s that simple. go sailing.
And that will improve the quality of the games how?
It won’t but you also won’t be disappointed by it if you never play them!
Sure, but he didn’t advocate for a boycott, he talked about “going sailing” a.k.a. piracy
Oh. Missed that lol.
They’ll go out of business and a more competent company will arise to replace them.
That’s easy, you can’t buy them because according to Ubisoft you won’t own them.
If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing.
And I’ll say it again, dumb “quotation” because it only referred to convincing people to try Ubisoft+; which is very explicitly a game rental system.
(Setting aside the change going in through California law where ALL retailers must stop referring to sales as ownership. That affects Assassin’s Creed just as much as your next indie Roguelike)
You don’t even need to go sailing, you can just stop at not buying their games. Ubisoft has not put out any game I’d really consider a must-play in over a decade. The last interesting Ubisoft open-world game was Black Flag in 2013. Even if you’re an absolute glutton for open-world designed by committee slop, Sony basically ate Ubisoft’s lunch with Ghosts of Tsushima, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Spiderman. Pirate those instead.
It seems like to me some of their games simply just need another two months in the oven.
There were lots of little bugs in Star Wars Outlaws, but I found that game to be really fun, and largely pretty solid. But then they dropped updates a month out or so that fixed a lot of those little bugs. I wonder if they had just had that extra month to polish it up if it’d have gotten slammed as hard. People may still have wanted different things storywise or whatever, but on a technical level just one extra month could have helped.
Polish isn’t going to help change the Ubisoft reputation of churning same looking games filled with massive bloaty copy-paste open worlds where you do generic fetch quests, collect hundreds of feathers, and watch watered down PG-13 storytelling that’s tamer than a Marvel movie.
Outlaws looked great, and had you go to interesting locations, and fly in space. There were no towers to open up maps. The outlaw system wasn’t super amazing in the end, but it didn’t detract from anything.
I don’t disagree it has a reputation, but Outlaws was a fun break from the super boring Assassin’s Creed games of late.
Ubisoft games have such a weird “design by committee” feel to it. Like they poll the internet every few weeks and make decisions off of that. New hot game has battle pass? WE HAVE BATTLE PASS.
They also seem to follow a checklist of mediocrity. Every game needs a dozen collectable items. Every game needs to have the same l types of quests that GTA3 had. Every game has to have a massive open world. Every game needs a online component and live service. Every game needs a incredible hook, which then they Marvel-safe it to avoid offending online babies.
Their games come off with 7/10 energy. Ubisoft games don’t move the needle. They’re pretty adequate as a game. But when I have thousands of games to choose from every year… Ill pass.
They CAN still be fun. General fact of the matter is that the games we find fun aren’t always necessarily innovating much. Sometimes it’s just a comfortable routine.
Absolutely not going to fault anyone that finds their games boring though.
7/10 doesn’t mean it sucks. Just means adequate.
I played the Division 2, Ac Valhalla and FarCry 6 for 100+ hours. They helped me during the worse times of the pandemic.
But if I was talking to friends or making recommendations, we’d be taking about games that are better than that. The Elden Rings or the Ghost of Tsushima
I think the problem is that they use the same open world formula that they started, but others have taken and improved it and they haven’t kept up with the times. Shadow of Mordor/war scratch the same itsch as assassin’s creed with more interesting mechanics. Those aren’t even new games at this point. Horizon zero dawn and forbidden West offer a more action focused experience with a better open world, again not super modern games.
It’s like Bethesda, they are still putting out games that are straight from 2010.
??? It’s the first time I’m hearing Shadow of Mordor allows you to run around famous places in ultra popular historical periods.
What’s more iconic than Mordor?
Helms deep honestly.