Putin Orders Russian Tech Companies To Somehow Make Competitive Game Console In 3 Months (www.techdirt.com)
from mox@lemmy.sdf.org to games@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 01:12
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don@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 01:35 next collapse

lol

Gork@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 01:40 next collapse

I look forward to the release of the Blyatbox “October Revolution” edition console.

Agent641@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 03:18 next collapse

Gamedroog 512

random_character_a@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 04:01 next collapse

With preinstalled Gulag survival simulator that you have to pay to get removed.

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:23 collapse

Will be released with The Gelendzik Siege game.

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:00 next collapse

Out of touch and delusional, what’s new.

BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one on 12 Apr 2024 03:10 collapse

He is the Russian equivalent of a baby boomer mandating with the implied threat of death that his own government pay a single shitty local satellite set-top box distributor (let’s be real, it’s likely just cheap chinese hardware) to develop and spread Russian culture through video game media in less than three months (which is probably already developed and was waiting for more money to market and enter production).

Sounds like he is very in touch, because that is one of the ways how U.S. culture is spreading throughout the world currently.

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 06:34 next collapse

… with software and hardware development. Literally what the article talks about.

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 07:52 collapse

Sounds like he is very in touch, because that is one of the ways how U.S. culture is spreading throughout the world currently.

With the absolutely stonking caveat that the US government didn’t mandate that, it just happened naturally over time. Over decades and decades. Particularly helped by the US speaking English. In a lot of parts of the world English is a good second language.

But the only people who speak Russian is Russia. No one has Russian is their second language outside of a few Baltic states and even then often it’s a tertiary language, not a true second language. This is a huge limiter on their ability to spread culture.

antidote101@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:02 next collapse

So the main task would be writing the custom OS, which with enough coders and a coherent plan could theoretically be done.

The hardware will just be a small form factor computer or gaming laptop in a box, with a controller attached.

It will be deconstructed day one, and what hardware they went with will be revealed.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 03:00 collapse

It’ll either be janky Linux or cracked Windows, on an off-the-shelf Chinese board in a cheap case with joysticks that barely work.

saltnotsugar@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 02:15 next collapse

This is new console…Fun Barrel. For 20 liters of kerosene, you can play all night if the coolant doesn’t ignight.

kadu@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:19 next collapse

It’s totally possible if they subsidize hardware costs and sell a PC with a fancy frontend and small form factor.

It’s completely impossible if they’re looking for custom hardware.

reflectedodds@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:29 next collapse

This is what I was thinking. For a first iteration to get out the door immediately it could just be windows with a “game browser” that launches full screen when you turn it on 😂

kadu@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:32 next collapse

I mean, that’s what all Steam Deck competitors really are. They’re Windows 11 with atrocious launchers on top, some of which acceptable and some very buggy, plus a literal standard AMD APU that AMD is selling by the bucket, and half of them share board designs sold by Chinese suppliers pretty much ready made.

ArbiterXero@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:59 collapse

That’s literally what the original Xbox was

ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 12:49 collapse

They at least did the courtesy of deleting the Windows UI, though.

kautau@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 04:39 next collapse

It would have to run steamos or something the complexity of all the always-online launchers that modern triple a games has is something that steam handles well, and likely a huge trip up point on any frontend slapped on a windows pc

Carighan@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 09:27 next collapse

Essentially just Playnite then?

Woozythebear@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 16:13 next collapse

So? That’s literally an Xbox…

PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee on 13 Apr 2024 21:29 collapse

It’s literally not an Xbox.

meathorse@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 21:37 collapse

That is literally what the first Xbox was. It’s internals was a custom mboard running a Celeron 700 and 3.5" HDD (can’t remember what the graphics was based on, maybe a GeForce MX?) with a customised Win2k OS.

All approx. It’s early and I can’t be bothered confirming those specs are 100% accurate :p

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 13 Apr 2024 17:06 collapse

It wouldn’t be Windows, it’d probably be a variant of Astra Linux.

The year of Linux may finally be among us.

ArbiterXero@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 02:59 next collapse

That’s literally what the original Xbox was

Kiosade@lemmy.ca on 12 Apr 2024 03:32 next collapse

There was nothing small about the original Xbox.

WarmSoda@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 04:19 next collapse

All hail The Duke!

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 07:48 collapse

Every time I see an original Xbox I’m always amazed because in my memory it was a lot smaller. I used to carry that thing to and from school I have no idea how I managed that.

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 07:07 collapse

Original Xbox had custom OS. It run on something similar to Windows 2000 (NT 5) kernel though.

ArbiterXero@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 07:51 collapse

Was just a skin on win 2k and contained an intel chip.

It was just a PC in a box.

aniki@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:19 collapse

And not even a very optimized one.

MakePorkGreatAgain@lemmy.basedcount.com on 12 Apr 2024 03:27 next collapse

so… repackage a pi?

bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml on 12 Apr 2024 05:16 next collapse

There’s a guy on youtube called CNCDan who did exactly that. SFF pc in a very nice 3d printed case with custom PCBs for the controller boards. If you’re at all interested in that sort of thing I think he has a 9 part series on how he built it.

LiveLM@lemmy.zip on 12 Apr 2024 10:09 next collapse

It’s totally gonna be a bunch of pirated games and a copy of Launchbox/Playnite lol

bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 10:43 next collapse

Just get one of those all in one 4"x4" PCs, slap a logo and a custom Linux distro on it and you have a console.

NaoPb@eviltoast.org on 13 Apr 2024 13:35 collapse

I am also half expecting them to adopt/steal hardware from other companies.

Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works on 12 Apr 2024 02:23 next collapse

The funny part is leaders all of the world are going to ask their country to do the same thing too now as none of them realize how ridiculous it is.

bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml on 12 Apr 2024 05:18 next collapse

That would be interesting, would the market get immediately over saturated or would there be a healthy amount of competition?

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:26 collapse

It’s oversaturated when it’s not zero

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:26 collapse

Rly?

MrZee@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 02:41 next collapse

Oh hell yeah. I want to see a Dendy reboot.

ZeroCool@slrpnk.net on 12 Apr 2024 02:47 next collapse

Rutendo 24

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:25 collapse
dlpkl@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 04:53 next collapse

It’ll be able to know when your draft-dodging ass is home, so it can send some nice FSB gentlemen to come give you a lift.

Num10ck@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 10:41 collapse

maybe irs all spyware with microphones and/or cameras? a loyalty program!

Zugyuk@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 05:06 next collapse

Is that all it takes? 🤣

bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml on 12 Apr 2024 05:15 collapse

Hey when the KGB is standing in the corner looking serious, you bet those engineers will have the “stats” to prove it’s competitive.

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 07:46 collapse

Well it will be competitive. Because all its competition aren’t entering Russia anyway because of sanctions.

Rayspekt@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 05:25 next collapse

Will it have The Game?

stardust@lemmy.ca on 12 Apr 2024 05:34 next collapse

Gaming is of upmost importance to the health of a nation. Future wars will be done through esports.

drasglaf@sh.itjust.works on 12 Apr 2024 06:34 next collapse

If only

Thorry84@feddit.nl on 12 Apr 2024 06:54 collapse

Sorry guys, we’re under dictator rule now. We should be getting some food coupons next week, otherwise we’ll starve. If only xxx_Epicl33tGamer69_xxx didn’t let us down in the big game last night. Oh well, such is life.

Noodle07@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 09:12 next collapse

The whole point of league of legends

msage@programming.dev on 13 Apr 2024 14:31 collapse

League of Legends is so bland and uninteresting.

Just play Dota. It’s the original, far more complex (you can eat trees!), and actually mess with the enemies way more than just dealing chip damage.

Noodle07@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 21:03 next collapse

I’m not talking about gameplay, the league of legend in its lore is there to prevent real world war

PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee on 13 Apr 2024 21:33 collapse

I played DotA for 14 years and while I agree it’s better than LoL in every single way I still wouldn’t recommend that anyone actually play it.

msage@programming.dev on 14 Apr 2024 07:43 collapse

It’s fun though. It has its age, but still there’s nothing like it.

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:17 next collapse

Future Russian parlement: We will crush, nuke and bury whatever will be left. In Quake.

ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 12:47 collapse

There was an episode of Star Trek about this.

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 05:52 next collapse

On one hand even the Nintendo Switch is just a modified Nvidia shield so this task would be a simple one for most states. On the other hand: Sanctions and insane corruption. I‘d be surprised if they manage to release anything that could keep up with Consoles from 2 generations ago.

Woozythebear@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 16:17 collapse

You know Russia has one of the best space programs in the world right?

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 14 Apr 2024 06:23 collapse

Exactly. Nobody would expect Japan to land a man on the moon in 3 months just because they’ve been dominating video games forever.

Gabu@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 06:10 next collapse

Here comes another Atari Jaguar.

phoneymouse@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 06:17 next collapse

Why?

FleetingTit@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 07:21 next collapse

To show that their Economy isn’t struggling from sanctions and to give the people what they want: entertainment.

There is a lot going wrong in Russia right now and Putler needs a win.

antidote101@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 07:51 next collapse

Probably because Putin just found out the population sucks at flying drones.

gofsckyourself@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 08:01 collapse

Some kid beat him in Fortnite and now he wants his own console system to ban the kid from (and probably track them down)

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:19 collapse

Hah. This comment is based on assumption that Putin knows what game console is.

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 14:09 collapse

It’s what you fly drones from.

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 15:52 collapse

I don’t think he knows about them further than “bad stuff mentioned in red folders”.

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 07:04 next collapse

Plot twist: It will be a PC with 486DX2-compatible CPU.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 10:58 collapse

They have x86 equivalent. Maybe 64.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 12 Apr 2024 07:13 next collapse

Good for them. 🤷‍♂️

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:20 collapse

Meh. Game consoles are shit. Defective by design.

Portable computers like Steam Deck are fine though.

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 07:44 next collapse

At one point in time Russia actually had their own computer system back in the '80s. So I guess just dust that off?

It died because it had non-square pixels, because that’s not stupid, and so was a pain to develop any games for.

grayhaze@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 09:57 next collapse

The Atari 2600 and Commodore 64 did okay for themselves with non-square pixels.

ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de on 12 Apr 2024 12:14 collapse

Guess what other obscure old system used rectangular pixels? The IBM PC.

CGA and EGA used resolution modes that were multiples of 320x200 (PAR 6:5). VGA’s 16-color hi-res mode was the first to support square pixels at 640x480, and it would become a standard for years to come because TempleOS and Windows used it (you can even force Windows 7 to run in this mode!)

The NES and SNES had PAR 16:15 8:7 (oops) (which is often ignored in emulation), and so did the most common NTSC DVD-Video mode (none of the commonly used ones had square pixels but you only really notice it with subtitles - you cannot correctly display them at native resolution on an LCD).

And that’s just the successful systems I know off the top of my head.

Soviet personal computers failed for other, obvious reasons. They struggled to copy the latest chips, and the economic incentive was minuscule despite the government’s investment - very few people could afford a computer in the Eastern Bloc, and they could not be exported due to patent infringement and being years behind. The economy collapsed after USSR broke up and nobody wanted to invest to rebuild the industry.

That being said, people in the Eastern Bloc were very resourceful with what they had (mostly clones of Atari’s 8-bit home computers and IBM PCs). A blind person from Czechoslovakia made a speech synthesis sound card for an IBM-compatible PC, which functioned well enough to allow him to be employed as a full-time programmer. At least one of the three exemplars works to this day.

DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 2024 16:13 collapse

I love how you threw TempleOS in there. And I get the reference, 640x480 is the resolution God intended or something to that effect.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 11:19 next collapse

The story is way more interesting. Cannot dig the article, but dropping soviet originated hardware had to do also with programming languages. Western entities started with heavy lobbing, often dressed as grass root movement, for languages that for western based systems. Not sure how well supported this thesis was, but it was interesting that preferences of engineers got used for market absorption.
Not a new thing by today’s standards.

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 12:36 collapse

I’m pretty sure there is an English language compiler for it now, but I don’t know when that became available.

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:16 next collapse

Russia has own computers on own processors produced on Micron(not to be confused with Micron Technology). But they are expensive as cast iron bridge and hard to get.

echodot@feddit.uk on 12 Apr 2024 12:34 next collapse

What are they I doubt they’ll be even 10 nanometer

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:36 collapse

65 as I remember

ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 12:45 collapse

“Expensive as a cast iron bridge” is a great saying. Is that something I’ve just never heard before, or did you coin the phrase?

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:58 collapse

This is well known phrase in russian. “Стоит как чугунный мост” literally means “costs like cast iron bridge”.

ilinamorato@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 13:55 collapse

I love it. There’s so much depth there.

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 14:17 collapse

Yea it caught my eye too, pretty cool

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 12 Apr 2024 14:25 collapse

Didn’t the NES produce non-square pixels? Like pure data wise the screen was square but at some point in making it NTSC it gets stretched horizontally to 4:3?

ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de on 12 Apr 2024 15:28 collapse

pure data wise

Data-wise, the screen is 32x30 tiles, which is 256x240 pixels, or 280x240 including the border. (The height is set by the modified NTSC standard at 240p60, and the width of 256 was chosen to simplify 8-bit arithmetic, plus 24 pixels for a border.) With square pixels, the aspect ratio would be 16:15, or 7:6 including border. The video timing was chosen so that this fills the entire TV screen, which is 4:3. As a result, the pixels have an aspect ratio of (4:3)/(7:6)=8:7 (varies a little between TVs). However, the NES could only flip sprites and not rotate them 90°, so this could be taken into account when creating the rotated versions.

Another successful system with non-square pixels was the IBM PC, whose CGA and EGA cards had a 320x200 resolution (or multiples thereof in other modes), which resulted in PAR (4:3)/(8:5)=6:5. Square pixels first became available with VGA’s hi-res mode (16 colors at 640x480), adopted by systems such as Windows 3.1 and TempleOS.

kuneho@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 09:53 next collapse

next gen Dendy

Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca on 12 Apr 2024 10:20 next collapse

Just give him an NES with Battletoads, file off any print, and tell him you made it.

uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:12 collapse
uis@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 12:11 next collapse

Wait, what? He is senile, but not THAT much. Although he was senile enough for war.

To be fair he probably doesn’t even know what game console is.

CluckN@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 13:03 collapse

Russia probably wants high powered chips for military use. Fronting it as an entertainment initiative may entice more investors.

Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 14:44 next collapse

This 100% this

Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 23:30 collapse

Maybe. Or if you’re engrossed in videogames, you don’t care your neighbor is drafted.

intensely_human@lemm.ee on 13 Apr 2024 07:06 collapse

Or they’re gonna make video games that are suspiciously like piloting drones

Rentlar@lemmy.ca on 12 Apr 2024 12:33 next collapse

We have Стим Дек at home:

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/c7ed2c17-face-4433-a042-2b53f88896af.jpeg">

kaine@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Apr 2024 13:01 next collapse

Depends on how you define a gaming console. You can slap a controller on a PC, with a certain form factor and custom OS it can be defined as a gaming console. But does it what Czar referring to? I do not think so.

rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Apr 2024 13:02 next collapse

Taking console wars to the next level

TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 14:04 next collapse

Excitedly awaiting the release of the Z-Box

reverendsteveii@lemm.ee on 12 Apr 2024 14:30 next collapse

if it’s normally 3 years just hire 12x as many developers and it’ll be fine.

Mikelius@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 07:03 collapse

Yeah, everyone knows 9 women can generate a baby in 1 month.

space@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Apr 2024 15:02 next collapse

It will be named the BlyatStation

DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 2024 02:05 collapse

Cyka!

As I said to the other BlyatStation comment. 🤣

Rush B!

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 2024 23:06 next collapse

Should be easy. Just take a AY-3-8500 chip, and the gaming console is basically done!

Jackcooper@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 05:48 next collapse

This will do wonders for comedy

kromem@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 05:57 next collapse

I love how he’s modernizing the punch lines to all the old Soviet jokes.

MeanEYE@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 21:15 next collapse

They will basically buy one clone off of AliExpress, stamp a new name and be done with it.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 2024 02:20 collapse

In partnership with SouljaBoy!

SomeGuy69@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 2024 21:21 next collapse

The Blyatstation

DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 2024 01:54 collapse

Cyka!

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 14 Apr 2024 01:58 collapse

“Eat verification bullet to continue”