Coelacanth@feddit.nu
on 24 Oct 2023 18:13
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I was too young for this at the time, but I have fond memories of Dark Forces II and its FMV cutscenes, which blew my mind at the time. I hope they remaster that one too (though I’d love a full-on remake, if allowed to dream).
etchinghillside@reddthat.com
on 24 Oct 2023 18:51
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That’s cool but I don’t think the gameplay and level design will hold up very well to today’s standards. This was basically a Doom 1 type game, but with jumping and maybe full 3D? Or was it 2.5D like Doom where you couldn’t have floors over floors?
Kolanaki@yiffit.net
on 24 Oct 2023 19:46
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It was more advanced than Doom, but not quite Quake levels of 3D. You had verticality and rooms over rooms (or at least it was faked really well), but the enemies and such were still sprites. The level design actually does hold up pretty nicely, considering it wasn’t just random mazes, but more based on the “reality” of the setting. Tho I don’t think it holds up as well as JK2, personally.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 16:26
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The engine could truly have rooms over rooms, it just couldn’t render them in Dark Forces. Eventually (after Dark Forces) it was updated to make that possible.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 14:51
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I remember I didn’t have a mouse and it was fucking hard
I used to be pretty decent with the arrow keys, but once full 3D games like Quake 2 started being standard I had to switch to mouse. I remember I switched to mouse and arrow keys for a long time, then finally went WASD.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 16:25
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You actually could have floors over floors, but the game just wouldn’t render them both at the same time.
As for it holding up, Boomer Shooters are in vogue right now. There is a market for these games existing in an accessible way where the player doesn’t have to do a bunch of tweaks to get it running.
CarlsIII@kbin.social
on 24 Oct 2023 19:24
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Finally.
VelvetStorm@lemmy.world
on 24 Oct 2023 19:31
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How about yall make 1313 or remake kotor like you said you would.
pennomi@lemmy.world
on 24 Oct 2023 19:32
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How about letting Larian remake KotOR?
VelvetStorm@lemmy.world
on 24 Oct 2023 19:40
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I meant that Disney should stop saying they are going to (re)make something to just cancle it after making progress on it and releasing trailers for it.
1 just needs a graphics remaster while 2 does need some more work. Even TSLRCM isn’t enough, but it probably wouldn’t need too much time to really integrate the content a little more coherently.
But yeah, K1 is basically perfect as is and K2 would be with a bit more development time. The remake looked good visually in the five seconds we saw but I have a weird feeling that the actual game would’ve been worse.
Strangely tho I’d prioritize remastering K1 and 2 over making a 3. It would be good to get new generations of players on it before beginning a third
delitomatoes@lemm.ee
on 25 Oct 2023 02:07
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Give us Republic Commandoes!
doktorseven@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 05:47
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Just use the Force Engine, free software reimplementation of the engine and point it to the original.
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I was too young for this at the time, but I have fond memories of Dark Forces II and its FMV cutscenes, which blew my mind at the time. I hope they remaster that one too (though I’d love a full-on remake, if allowed to dream).
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Edit: …steampowered.com/…/Star_Wars_Dark_Forces_Remaste…
That’s cool but I don’t think the gameplay and level design will hold up very well to today’s standards. This was basically a Doom 1 type game, but with jumping and maybe full 3D? Or was it 2.5D like Doom where you couldn’t have floors over floors?
It was more advanced than Doom, but not quite Quake levels of 3D. You had verticality and rooms over rooms (or at least it was faked really well), but the enemies and such were still sprites. The level design actually does hold up pretty nicely, considering it wasn’t just random mazes, but more based on the “reality” of the setting. Tho I don’t think it holds up as well as JK2, personally.
The engine could truly have rooms over rooms, it just couldn’t render them in Dark Forces. Eventually (after Dark Forces) it was updated to make that possible.
I remember I didn’t have a mouse and it was fucking hard
I used to be pretty decent with the arrow keys, but once full 3D games like Quake 2 started being standard I had to switch to mouse. I remember I switched to mouse and arrow keys for a long time, then finally went WASD.
You actually could have floors over floors, but the game just wouldn’t render them both at the same time.
As for it holding up, Boomer Shooters are in vogue right now. There is a market for these games existing in an accessible way where the player doesn’t have to do a bunch of tweaks to get it running.
Finally.
How about yall make 1313 or remake kotor like you said you would.
How about letting Larian remake KotOR?
I meant that Disney should stop saying they are going to (re)make something to just cancle it after making progress on it and releasing trailers for it.
Oh no doubt. I’m just saying that letting Larian have access to Star Wars would easily net billions.
Imo the KOTOR games do not need a remake. A remaster? Maybe for KOTOR 1 and definitely for KOTOR 2, if only to add the Restoration Mod to it.
I’d rather they either try to get 1313 greenlit somehow or have Larian do a KOTOR 3.
Damn, Larian is really gonna get all the Bioware sequels, eh? Larian Jade Empire when
1 just needs a graphics remaster while 2 does need some more work. Even TSLRCM isn’t enough, but it probably wouldn’t need too much time to really integrate the content a little more coherently.
But yeah, K1 is basically perfect as is and K2 would be with a bit more development time. The remake looked good visually in the five seconds we saw but I have a weird feeling that the actual game would’ve been worse.
Strangely tho I’d prioritize remastering K1 and 2 over making a 3. It would be good to get new generations of players on it before beginning a third
Give us Republic Commandoes!
Just use the Force Engine, free software reimplementation of the engine and point it to the original.
This has a cool post number from lemmy.ml