Because only steam can have mods? Do you listen to yourself lmao “no please keep it a monopoly, valve are good guys, stay in your lane”
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
on 09 Jun 11:23
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Oh hell no. Valve are evil, like any other corporate monstrosity. It's not that I want GOG to "stay in their lane" as a bad thing. I want them to stay away from the morasse of crap that other sites like them have become. There are game modding communities all over the Internet, we don't need an abandonware site that put on airs to become part of the "modern marketplace".
I want GOG to getback to what it was before CDPR.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 11:30
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We very much do need GOG to be competitive with the market leader but with the primary selling point of DRM-free, yes. And is it a coincidence that the beginning of your username is the same as that awful YouTuber?
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
on 09 Jun 11:41
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We're going to have to settle for disagreeing on this. I just want a place to get stable abandonware, not a misstep into another place begging to take real money for digital data.
And I would assume so, since I'm not a YouTuber.
HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
on 09 Jun 13:36
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I want GOG to getback to what it was before CDPR.
CD Projekt saw potential to look back at their distribution days to offer DRM-free versions of classic games through digital distribution, ... They founded a new subsidiary, Good Old Games, to serve this purpose in early 2008.
It already is a modern marketplace and many modern games release on it. Just because you only use it for old games doesn’t mean it’s all it’s ever allowed to be. They’ve been expanding their gog program more broadly to cover more of their audience, and a mod support like this makes it very easy for players of old games to release modified versions of those games, instead of needing to look for moddb or nexusmods.
How many people play DOS2 with EE? How many people play civ5 with the 5.5 mod? It’s just common sense to me that they’d set up something for people to keep old games fresh via modding, and it’s not even a steam workshop like system so I’m not sure what steam has to do with anything. The mods they’ve showcased are full overhauls.
INeedMana@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 12:20
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Why not just cooperate with nexus mods? Their new app (yes, still a deep beta) works quite well
HollowNaught@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 21:03
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Because nexus mods is woeful, and their gradual enshittification isn’t a good sign
shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Jun 01:15
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What examples can you give of their enshittification?
HollowNaught@lemmy.world
on 10 Jun 02:36
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I can think of a few reasons as to why a website would run ads. I can think of a few reasons as to why a website would limit download speeds
I cannot fathom for any non greed-ridden reason as to why a website would make you wait five seconds before downloading a mod. It’s an inconvenience for the sake of an inconvenience, a problem they made to sell the solution
Of course, we need to keep in mind that they don’t make the mods, they merely host them. Compare the amount of bloat on their website to other, less funded ones such as lovers lab and gamebanana, and it becomes apparent that there’s a money sink somewhere
I know for a fact whoever developed the GoG launcher isn’t capable of adding this in.
Source: half of the connectors to other game services don’t work, and they haven’t bothered to make their Mac app function in literally years (and if asked about this they tell you to “use the website”).
So they added one thing, but you’re complaining they haven’t added literally every other improvement you can imagine?
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
on 10 Jun 09:10
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It’s not every other improvements, it’s basic features requested for years.
Dumb things like being able to edit your reviews or delete them without mailing the support. Having the ability to download old versions of offline installers instead of being forced to use their app…
It’s pretty obvious that I meant that this addition is welcome, but I critize their priorities.
Even GOG Galaxy for Linux. Forgot this still wasn’t added.
Let’s say I have not yet had to do a full reinstall of Heroic and multiple associated games because something got unfixably (for my level of understanding) borked during an update.
Heroic is a community “we hope it’s useful but don’t complain when it doesn’t” product.
With Galaxy you are a paying customer who has rights.
Don_alForno@feddit.org
on 10 Jun 12:10
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Galaxy is free and not required. If it doesn’t work you can download games from the website (which I consider an important feature). I’m pretty sure you don’t have any rights whatsoever.
Buuut it also reinforces my point. The free open source solution works better than their in-house one.
Ok, but which? Can you sue them if Galaxy, a free tool that they provide for convenience and that isn’t required for the actual service, doesn’t work, or if it breaks a game? Name one thing.
douz0a0bouz@midwest.social
on 10 Jun 16:35
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I’m definitively gonna keep a look on that. Hope it will work with Heroic and the Steam Deck.
No. Just, please. No. Go back to just being the only place to pick up tested versions of abandonware titles. Not this pseudo-Steam crap.
Because only steam can have mods? Do you listen to yourself lmao “no please keep it a monopoly, valve are good guys, stay in your lane”
Oh hell no. Valve are evil, like any other corporate monstrosity. It's not that I want GOG to "stay in their lane" as a bad thing. I want them to stay away from the morasse of crap that other sites like them have become. There are game modding communities all over the Internet, we don't need an abandonware site that put on airs to become part of the "modern marketplace".
I want GOG to getback to what it was before CDPR.
We very much do need GOG to be competitive with the market leader but with the primary selling point of DRM-free, yes. And is it a coincidence that the beginning of your username is the same as that awful YouTuber?
We're going to have to settle for disagreeing on this. I just want a place to get stable abandonware, not a misstep into another place begging to take real money for digital data.
And I would assume so, since I'm not a YouTuber.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOG.com
They*
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My brain is cooked... I didn't understand you meant "they" to be part of the meme. XD
It already is a modern marketplace and many modern games release on it. Just because you only use it for old games doesn’t mean it’s all it’s ever allowed to be. They’ve been expanding their gog program more broadly to cover more of their audience, and a mod support like this makes it very easy for players of old games to release modified versions of those games, instead of needing to look for moddb or nexusmods.
How many people play DOS2 with EE? How many people play civ5 with the 5.5 mod? It’s just common sense to me that they’d set up something for people to keep old games fresh via modding, and it’s not even a steam workshop like system so I’m not sure what steam has to do with anything. The mods they’ve showcased are full overhauls.
Why not just cooperate with nexus mods? Their new app (yes, still a deep beta) works quite well
Because nexus mods is woeful, and their gradual enshittification isn’t a good sign
What examples can you give of their enshittification?
I can think of a few reasons as to why a website would run ads. I can think of a few reasons as to why a website would limit download speeds
I cannot fathom for any non greed-ridden reason as to why a website would make you wait five seconds before downloading a mod. It’s an inconvenience for the sake of an inconvenience, a problem they made to sell the solution
Of course, we need to keep in mind that they don’t make the mods, they merely host them. Compare the amount of bloat on their website to other, less funded ones such as lovers lab and gamebanana, and it becomes apparent that there’s a money sink somewhere
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Okay, but slowing everybody down by five seconds doesn’t smooth anything at all. It just shifts the curve five seconds to the right
Can’t download mods without logging in anymore
And registration hasn’t worked for years. Pointing this out in this community will earn you downvotes. Nexus Mods is completely unusable trash.
Isn’t this exactly like GOG Mods?
Nexus is only about mods, it’s not a bonus feature
Nexus mods used to be available without logging in
We don’t need a proprietary mod platform anyways.
And sure, you can’t eshitificate if you’re already shit
I didn’t notice it going bad. What’s going on?
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Still using NMM. I will never switch to Vortex (mostly because my list of mods is insane)
I mean the new one, not Vortex
So like the steam workshop? Cool.
Yes, but most of those games don’t have steam workshop.
I know for a fact whoever developed the GoG launcher isn’t capable of adding this in.
Source: half of the connectors to other game services don’t work, and they haven’t bothered to make their Mac app function in literally years (and if asked about this they tell you to “use the website”).
Even fewer people game on Mac than on Linux (judging by the Steam survey). I bet it’s not that they can’t they just don’t care.
While I appreciate increased visibility for such (often awesome) mods, I kind of doubt good guys at gog can manage to ship actual versions of them.
Nice to see some competition in this space. Steam dropped the ball by not getting fallout London.
How is that Steam’s fault?
I guess good thing, but what about improving GOG initially? There are many things to add and improve
So they added one thing, but you’re complaining they haven’t added literally every other improvement you can imagine?
It’s not every other improvements, it’s basic features requested for years.
Dumb things like being able to edit your reviews or delete them without mailing the support. Having the ability to download old versions of offline installers instead of being forced to use their app…
It’s pretty obvious that I meant that this addition is welcome, but I critize their priorities.
Even GOG Galaxy for Linux. Forgot this still wasn’t added.
We need a Linux GOG Galaxy, not another mod marketplace. This seems like it’s in preparation for Skyblivion.
lutris.net/games/gog-galaxy/
Heroic works better than Galaxy does in Windows. They should just pay the Heroic devs for their work and make that their official launcher.
Heroic works until it doesn’t.
So does Galaxy?
Let’s say I have not yet had to do a full reinstall of Heroic and multiple associated games because something got unfixably (for my level of understanding) borked during an update.
Heroic is a community “we hope it’s useful but don’t complain when it doesn’t” product.
With Galaxy you are a paying customer who has rights.
Galaxy is free and not required. If it doesn’t work you can download games from the website (which I consider an important feature). I’m pretty sure you don’t have any rights whatsoever.
Buuut it also reinforces my point. The free open source solution works better than their in-house one.
It’s a product for paying customers of GOG games. You have rights you don’t have with some open source hobby project.
I have lots of free games from GOG. You don’t have to be a paying customer to use Galaxy.
Which rights do you have?
Plenty. GOG sp. z o.o. is an EU company after all.
Ok, but which? Can you sue them if Galaxy, a free tool that they provide for convenience and that isn’t required for the actual service, doesn’t work, or if it breaks a game? Name one thing.
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they already do! (sorta)
if you buy games through heroic, the heroic devs get a percentage of the sale
When did “modding a game” shift from “creating new mods” to “applying mods”?
Idk but it makes it hard to find modding (creating mods) ressources online
I’m pretty sure it’s always been both. They’re both modifying the game.
Meh. Forces you to have the game on GOG. It’s blocking mods behind a platform and account paywall, just like Steam Workshop