from SolidShake@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:49
https://lemmy.world/post/31388053
Note beforehand. When one is a available, I will buy one.
Okay so recently on of course social media (tiktok, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram etc) people have been spewing boner misinformation about this console. Before you down vote me to oblivion l hear me out. Yes. The console has a 120hz refresh rate… But people are saying this console is outputting 4k resolution at 120fps docked… 120fps isn’t even an option docked (tested on LTT) and not only that, only a very very small amount of games will be 120fps. Cyberpunk runs at 30fps, or 40 on performance. But people are saying it runs 60fps at 4k!? Why? Why would people just blatantly lie about this information when you can get it actually tested?
Game prices? I understand the Nintendo cult is always stiff. But for the last 10 years these people bitched about $70 games. And now they are just throwing excuse after excuse defending $80 games now. But the lie I’ve been hearing is “Sony has been selling $80 games since the PS5 came out” No… No it hasn’t. There is not one base PS5 game for $80 ever made.
So… why are people saying this stuff? It’s weird.
Anyways. I can tell this console will be a monster in 1-2 years before the $600 OLED model drops. I’m bummed Nintendo kind of fucked the market for consumers. Now every dev will start games at $80 and no one will blame Nintendo for it in the future. (Like if Ubisoft release the division 3 for $80 people will just blame Ubisoft). Don’t forget who started the price hikes (not inflation)
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Why are you trusting the word of random people on the Internet
In regards to what do you mean?
You can’t believe everything you see on the Internet, that’s how WWI got started. :)
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I think it’s a reaction to the negative reaction the console had when it was announced. Just as there are people telling lies in favor of the console, there are those who tell lies against it. It’s a give and take between Nintendo simps and Nintendo Haters.
(IMHO None of this wouldn’t be happening if it weren’t for the fucking games at $80-$90)
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Social media never was press.
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You know that it’s common for companies to pay influencers and publications for favorable publicity, right?
I’m not talking about streamers and big YouTube channels.
The practice extends beyond those. Lemmy is not immune, for example.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
This community looks relevant in principle, although most of the posts right now are about political astroturfing (which is not the only kind):
!fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I’m very much against this and always have been, but I think not everyone has been. Some people will buy these games at any cost, especially when it comes to Nintendo and children. Children don’t understand the true costs and parents just want a happy kid and think it’s not that bad of a price for their kid to be happy. Most probably don’t pay attention to the price to see that it once was $50 and now is $80 for the new games.
It’s infuriating for me because my boycott effectively means nothing when these people exist. But no matter, I’m happy with my PC and waiting on emulation when it comes to play these games.
Man. AS a parent I didn’t even think about parents! With my kids it just comes down to if I can afford it or not. My son wants WWE 2K25 but it’s just too much right now. But yeah I could imagine there are a lot of parents and grandparents that just don’t care and get whatever for their kids.
"Except for all the people complaining, why is no one complaining?"
Misinformation has been one big game of telephone. There's been a lot of legitimate confusion around VRR, I know Nintendo did claim it was supported docked at first but then had to retract it. FWIW, this is probably something that wasn't ready for launch but will be patched.
But I've seen far more cases of misinformation used to bash on the Switch - I've lost count of the number times I've seen people claim Mario Kart is $90 somehow.
Regarding game prices, I'm not thrilled about it, but I also feel the need to point out that any AAA with DLC has already been more than $80 for a while now. If you don't like it, don't buy AAA.
Me, I don't often buy games at full price, or basically any AAAs outside of Nintendo for that matter. For the handful of IPs I really love that badly, I'm honestly okay with paying a premium. It's the price I pay for having niche tastes that have narrowed with age, it's fine because I'm saving a lot on the games I don't buy. If I have to pay $80 for Kirby Air Ride 2, I will because I've waited 22 years for this sequel.
There's a lot that's fucked up in the game industry, and I just don't think Nintendo is anywhere near the worst right now. The circlejerk here on Lemmy in particular has become especially tiring, and I wish some of y'all could direct that energy towards companies that constantly screw over their workers, push gambling-based business models onto kids, or keep collapsing under their own weight when they expect every game to be the next Fortnite and speedrun shutting down any game that doesn’t meet unrealistic investor expectations.
I think we've reached a point where you've got the backlash, the backlash to the backlash, the backlash to the backlash to the backlash... and all of that keeps amplifying toxicity. Everyone needs to step back and chill.
Yes. Delux editions etc are $80+ Nintendo ka making base games $80 which means delux will start at 100-$120
I agree that there has been a lot of misinformation surrounding the Switch 2 (especially that $90 price). It’s important that consumers know the truth about a product when they are considering what to buy, and misinformation never helps.
I think one of the larger issues that people here have with Nintendo pricing is not the initial prices, but the fact that Switch games released by Nintendo just haven’t gone on sale. AAA games from other publishers commonly go on sale years after their release, offering a more affordable option for people who can’t justify $80 on a new game. The last time I can remember Nintendo doing this with their games was Nintendo Selects on the 3DS and Wii U.
Another issue people here particularly have with Nintendo is freedom to do what you wish your hardware. Nintendo has always tried to prevent users from running their own software on their devices, and it’s easy to see how people are upset by this behavior (especially on Lemmy where there are many tsch-savvy Linux users who are greatly offended by this).
But this isn't true either. I use DekuDeals for price tracking, you can look up any game for yourself and see when it's been on sale.
You are correct, I should have done more research before stating that. However, the sales for first-party Switch games still seem much more hard-to-find as well as much less of a discount than when you compare to the PC market. For example, if you look at Super Mario Odyssey, the linked site lists an all-time low price of $29.49. Compare this to a AAA game released the same year, Horizon Zero Dawn, which can somewhat regularly be found for $12.49 on Steam. The Steam sales throughout the year also make it much easier to find PC games on sale, and as far as I’m aware the Switch doesn’t have something comparable. I just believe it’s much harder to find good deals on Nintendo games than the vast majority of other publishers, which is why the high price tag is hard to justify for many.
Why would you not get the bundle if you want MKW? It’s $50 that way.
Who are "people" in this scenario because I haven't seen a single person claim Cyberpunk is running at 60fps or the Switch can output 4k 120fps.
Commenters on videos. Tiktok posters. Etc
You’re expecting to get reliable info from YT comments and Tiktoks?
What do you mean. I wasn’t “looking for info” I’m just noticing what people are saying publicly. I didn’t say once I was looking for information
Volunteer PR work (including knowingly spreading misinformation) is extremely common for all fanboys, it’s a Nintendo specific thing.
EDIT: I meant to say it’s not a Nintendo only/specific thing. It’s true of all hardcore fanboys, even outside of game.
I’m not that invested in the switch 2 discourse, but always chuckle when someone says “now I can play Zelda at 30 fps or more”.
Paying for a new console, because the last one was incapable of playing games at an acceptable framerate is a weird argument for your purchase.
Some Nintendo games are undoubtedly masterpieces, but that doesn’t excuse some of their business decisions.
Tears of the Kingdom is $115 ($130 with tax) in Canada. To go to bat for Nintendo over the Switch 2 pricing is some sort of Stockholm Syndrome. For reference, the Switch 1 version can currently be bought brand new for $70.
You could then pay for the “upgrade” (just an fps unlock) for $10
I’m not a big fan how the “enhanced” versions offer nothing more than just unlocking the frames. Nintendo didn’t remaster these games, they didn’t up the graphics or crank up better lighting. It’s literally just an fps unlock. It only seems better because you from 720p to 1080p making the pixels smaller.
Don’t forget! If there’s dlc for that game, it’s not included there, either.
Correct! Such a good deal honestly
“spewing boner misinformation” is absolutely hilarious, what does that mean?
Like the cult fans will say anything regardless of truth
But what is “boner misinformation”? 😂
I’m guessing something like a “justice boner,” but with misinformation?