Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world
on 09 Apr 14:28
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It’s so stupid. I have literally plugged GC controllers into my Switch with an adapter hub, and they worked with non-GC games. This is deliberately worse.
“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games.”
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world
on 09 Apr 14:32
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Oh, so it’s just ragebait and they’re reporting on nothing? I fell for it.
woelkchen@lemmy.world
on 09 Apr 14:44
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Oh, so it’s just ragebait and they’re reporting on nothing? I fell for it.
Just read the article for a change and you’d see that it was a later update to the article.
Edit: That’s also literally in the part I quoted.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world
on 09 Apr 15:03
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You just got done telling me they are reporting as fact something that is likely not so, and now you are scoffing at me for not having wasted my time. If there is any reason for this article to still be published or even discussed, it has eluded me.
gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com
on 09 Apr 15:40
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Nintendo said it might not be compatible. People reported on what Nintendo said, with the caveat that they have said similar things in the past that did not turn out to be true.
No, they’re reporting that Nintendo is saying it, and also reporting that in the past it’s hasn’t been true. Consider it a warning, and to set your expectations if you buy a Switch 2.
They said it about the DS at the time. It was meant to run in parallel with the GBA as a "premium" thing for adults. They said it about the SNES, too, actually.
This bit of random outrage is fun to me because it's something that has been Nintendo's official stance since the early 90s, but it's swung back around due to Don Mattrick being such a charisma black hole that what used to be the natural, go-to response to "how come the new, more advanced version is more expensive" has now become a genuine snafu.
It’s hilarious that it will work with any game on the Steam Deck.
Lanusensei87@lemmy.world
on 09 Apr 15:09
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“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games. While this is no confirmation that the same will be the case with the GameCube controller, it does at least provide some hope that it won’t be as locked-off as Nintendo says.”
I genuinely can't tell if milking outrage is more prominent in gaming than elsewhere. I guess not, because... I mean, look at the planet in general, but it does feel like gamers got to that state of mind first and do it best, at least.
It’s somewhat misleading. It’s not providing the additional background information, and it leads the headline with the claim (not that Nintendo is making a claim).
I don’t think it’s a bad headline. It’d be hard to include all the information in the headline. But if someone only reads the headline (something like 73% of people), they could end up with a mistaken conclusion. And those people will have been lead in that direction (so, mislead).
To clarify, I don’t think the writers did anything wrong. The headline will be misleading because Nintendo’s being somewhat misleading.
I don’t know how much the headline could be improved, if at all.
Nintendo says NS2 GC controller will only “officially” support GC games
Or if they can’t quote “officially”, they could quote “only”. Which could arguably be more clickbaity, but also clue in a casual reader that there’s more to what Nintendo officially says.
So it seems this may just refer to "official support" and the piece of news is at least misinformation-adjacent, but it does make me wonder if there is any forwards compatibility with the Pro Controller. There are plenty of solid alternatives for Switch 1 and that wasn't particularly picky about taking in third party devices.
Not sure if anybody has brought it up in the news deluge.
That's nice. Gamecube replicas are a bit of a niche case, but there are plenty of expensive fight sticks that would be great to use if compatible. I guess we'll know for sure once it's out.
“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games.”
They’re just not officially supporting it. I hope Reto will informally make Metroid Prime 4 work with this the same way as MP1. I don’t like twin stick controls and mouse controls are not feasible on the go.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Apr 19:49
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Huh? My actual GameCube controller works with all games on the Switch 1, although it doesn’t have all the buttons used by some games.
In particular it would be absurd if this new GameCube controller doesn’t work with Smash Ultimate.
I doubt it. Why wouldn’t it just be a modified Pro controller like every other classic controller they’ve released. My guess is they are just managing expectations that it won’t be automatically usable with every game and mapped correctly.
I doubt I’ll ever connect this to my Switch 2, it’s going to be a replacement for the aging used WaveBirds that are hooked up to my Wii. With BlueRetro as the receiver, my guess is they’ll work day 1 or shortly after. For that, they’re awesome options.
SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml
on 10 Apr 12:11
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That makes no sense to me, it has ZL button from what I’ve seen and that leads me to believe that it’s more like a pro controller
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 04:44
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Boo.
I want an N64 controller for my PS5.
It’s so stupid. I have literally plugged GC controllers into my Switch with an adapter hub, and they worked with non-GC games. This is deliberately worse.
“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games.”
Oh, so it’s just ragebait and they’re reporting on nothing? I fell for it.
Just read the article for a change and you’d see that it was a later update to the article.
Edit: That’s also literally in the part I quoted.
You just got done telling me they are reporting as fact something that is likely not so, and now you are scoffing at me for not having wasted my time. If there is any reason for this article to still be published or even discussed, it has eluded me.
Nintendo said it might not be compatible. People reported on what Nintendo said, with the caveat that they have said similar things in the past that did not turn out to be true.
No, they’re reporting that Nintendo is saying it, and also reporting that in the past it’s hasn’t been true. Consider it a warning, and to set your expectations if you buy a Switch 2.
Every time I hear a new piece of news about the Switch 2 it’s disappointing. Bummer
Didn’t you hear? Just buy a switch 1 if you can’t afford or care for the switch 2.
Doug Bowser said it himself
They said it about the DS at the time. It was meant to run in parallel with the GBA as a "premium" thing for adults. They said it about the SNES, too, actually.
This bit of random outrage is fun to me because it's something that has been Nintendo's official stance since the early 90s, but it's swung back around due to Don Mattrick being such a charisma black hole that what used to be the natural, go-to response to "how come the new, more advanced version is more expensive" has now become a genuine snafu.
PR is not about reality, it's about perception.
Nintendo greedy? Always has been.
And yet the anger is new. Again, it's about perception, not reality.
You can also buy this controller and use it with PCs for an authentic emulation experience.
It’s hilarious that it will work with any game on the Steam Deck.
Well at least they got their clicks.
I genuinely can't tell if milking outrage is more prominent in gaming than elsewhere. I guess not, because... I mean, look at the planet in general, but it does feel like gamers got to that state of mind first and do it best, at least.
The headline is not misleading in any way. That’s exactly what Nintendo said.
It’s somewhat misleading. It’s not providing the additional background information, and it leads the headline with the claim (not that Nintendo is making a claim).
I don’t think it’s a bad headline. It’d be hard to include all the information in the headline. But if someone only reads the headline (something like 73% of people), they could end up with a mistaken conclusion. And those people will have been lead in that direction (so, mislead).
I think it would be bad form to put their speculation on the headline.
To clarify, I don’t think the writers did anything wrong. The headline will be misleading because Nintendo’s being somewhat misleading.
I don’t know how much the headline could be improved, if at all.
Or if they can’t quote “officially”, they could quote “only”. Which could arguably be more clickbaity, but also clue in a casual reader that there’s more to what Nintendo officially says.
So it seems this may just refer to "official support" and the piece of news is at least misinformation-adjacent, but it does make me wonder if there is any forwards compatibility with the Pro Controller. There are plenty of solid alternatives for Switch 1 and that wasn't particularly picky about taking in third party devices.
Not sure if anybody has brought it up in the news deluge.
Yes it has Bluetooth support and, naturally, USB C.
It’ll continue to take anything that supports those, and that’ll include the switch 1 pro controller, since it supports those for other devices.
That's nice. Gamecube replicas are a bit of a niche case, but there are plenty of expensive fight sticks that would be great to use if compatible. I guess we'll know for sure once it's out.
Even regular ass USB keyboards work with Switch. Usually not for control input but typing search terms in the e-Shop, for example.
That sucks since it has analog triggers and a lot of people I watch were hoping it could be used for certain shooters.
“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games.”
They’re just not officially supporting it. I hope Reto will informally make Metroid Prime 4 work with this the same way as MP1. I don’t like twin stick controls and mouse controls are not feasible on the go.
Huh? My actual GameCube controller works with all games on the Switch 1, although it doesn’t have all the buttons used by some games.
In particular it would be absurd if this new GameCube controller doesn’t work with Smash Ultimate.
I guess I’ll just skip this generation like with the WiiU.
Lol pathetic
I doubt it. Why wouldn’t it just be a modified Pro controller like every other classic controller they’ve released. My guess is they are just managing expectations that it won’t be automatically usable with every game and mapped correctly.
I doubt I’ll ever connect this to my Switch 2, it’s going to be a replacement for the aging used WaveBirds that are hooked up to my Wii. With BlueRetro as the receiver, my guess is they’ll work day 1 or shortly after. For that, they’re awesome options.
That makes no sense to me, it has ZL button from what I’ve seen and that leads me to believe that it’s more like a pro controller
i C EMUlation is the way to go, huh doug?
“We are also pleased to announce that, next year, we will be adding support for Gamecube games other than Super Smash Bros. Melee.” /s