Glitchington@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 01:09
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Yeah, this seems like the business equivalent of a slap in the face to the original devs.
BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social
on 17 Feb 2024 01:23
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The whole thing is such a clusterfuck. I've never played it but I can sympathize with how the fans have been jerked around.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 09:05
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I you are into adventure games and/or like the idea of a story heavy rpg without combat I wholeheartedly recommend you trying it.
BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social
on 17 Feb 2024 13:36
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I've tried several games like it. Arcanum being one of the most similar but I just can't get into that style, no matter how many times I've tried lol. Same reason I won't play Planescape: Torment. Just not for me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Aqarius@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 16:09
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It’s not very much like Arcanum, though. Arcanum and Planescape are moer or less straight RPGs, Disco Elysium is practically a variant of a point and click adventure.
It’s a point and click puzzle game with rpg elements, that’s how I’ve been explaining it
dumpsterlid@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 2024 17:23
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I really wanted to get into planescape torment because I have heard amazing things about the writing and I have played decently far into the beginning (escaping from the body morgue complex into city) but the whole damn game is just grey and beige and I couldn’t take it after awhile lol.
BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social
on 19 Feb 2024 02:15
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I'm sure its got an incredible story and I'd love it if I actually sat down but im in the same boat. Just not interested.
papabobolious@feddit.nu
on 17 Feb 2024 09:08
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I sympathise with them, but played it without any insight into any drama. It’s one of the best games I’ve played.
100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 09:26
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If anything the employees getting fired and the project being shitcanned adds another layer of social commentary
BustinJiber@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 12:19
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Still do not understand how this wasn’t hostile takeover.
Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social
on 17 Feb 2024 02:35
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It's a shame that people are being laid off, especially when it seems like it's retaliation for complaining about working conditions. Still, I don't think I'd ever be able to buy anything from ZA/UM after they kicked most of the creators out of the company and took control of the IP.
phonyphanty@pawb.social
on 17 Feb 2024 07:11
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I get the sentiment. But to me personally, “redundancy” is pretty clear and doesn’t mask the pain that comes with being let go. There’s also generally a difference between being “fired” and being “made redundant”. Redundancy suggests that their job doesn’t need to be done anymore b/c of a restructure, bankruptcy, merger, and the company needs to meet certain obligations for that redundancy not to be considered an “unfair dismissal”.
ABCDE@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 09:19
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It’s not the same thing so I’m not sure why you’re taking umbrage with commonly use and understood vocabulary. Being fired means there was a fault on the employees’ part, which isn’t true.
phonyphanty@pawb.social
on 17 Feb 2024 10:37
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I feel like we’re maybe getting confused about terminology here? “Redundancy” is a specific term for a specific form of dismissal. It’s not a euphemism for “firing” because firing someone is a different kind of dismissal. Terms like rightsizing, reset, re-allocating resources, trimming the fat – these are certainly euphemisms for redundancy that should be called out.
That distinction means jack shit to the people that are “made redundant” and everything to the people that have an interest in marketing this as anything other than someone losing their job.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Feb 2024 08:38
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It does. Because being made redundant means you get a pay package when you lose your job. If you get fired, you get nothing.
iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world
on 17 Feb 2024 11:26
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The article states the layoffs will affect the UK division and EU division, I am assuming you are basing your statement on US laws. www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/notice-periods states that you will get paid for X number of weeks depending on how long you have been in your job.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Feb 2024 15:02
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I am in the UK, so I’m basing it on what I know of the UK
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Feb 2024 08:36
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Redundancy is very different to being fired though. When you’re fired you just lose your job and that’s it. If you get made redundant, you lose your job but get paid X amount of months worth of wages to make up for the fact you may be jobless for a while, while you look for a new one. X being different depending on both the countries laws and the company’s policies. But usually it increases the longer you’ve been with the company.
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I wouldn’t want to buy an expansion from the people who stole Disco Elysium anyway.
How Disco Elysium Was Stolen From Its Creators
About the Disco Elysium Investigation (It’s bad.)
Yeah, this seems like the business equivalent of a slap in the face to the original devs.
The whole thing is such a clusterfuck. I've never played it but I can sympathize with how the fans have been jerked around.
I you are into adventure games and/or like the idea of a story heavy rpg without combat I wholeheartedly recommend you trying it.
I've tried several games like it. Arcanum being one of the most similar but I just can't get into that style, no matter how many times I've tried lol. Same reason I won't play Planescape: Torment. Just not for me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It’s not very much like Arcanum, though. Arcanum and Planescape are moer or less straight RPGs, Disco Elysium is practically a variant of a point and click adventure.
It’s a point and click puzzle game with rpg elements, that’s how I’ve been explaining it
I really wanted to get into planescape torment because I have heard amazing things about the writing and I have played decently far into the beginning (escaping from the body morgue complex into city) but the whole damn game is just grey and beige and I couldn’t take it after awhile lol.
I'm sure its got an incredible story and I'd love it if I actually sat down but im in the same boat. Just not interested.
I sympathise with them, but played it without any insight into any drama. It’s one of the best games I’ve played.
If anything the employees getting fired and the project being shitcanned adds another layer of social commentary
Still do not understand how this wasn’t hostile takeover.
It's a shame that people are being laid off, especially when it seems like it's retaliation for complaining about working conditions. Still, I don't think I'd ever be able to buy anything from ZA/UM after they kicked most of the creators out of the company and took control of the IP.
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I get the sentiment. But to me personally, “redundancy” is pretty clear and doesn’t mask the pain that comes with being let go. There’s also generally a difference between being “fired” and being “made redundant”. Redundancy suggests that their job doesn’t need to be done anymore b/c of a restructure, bankruptcy, merger, and the company needs to meet certain obligations for that redundancy not to be considered an “unfair dismissal”.
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It’s not the same thing so I’m not sure why you’re taking umbrage with commonly use and understood vocabulary. Being fired means there was a fault on the employees’ part, which isn’t true.
I feel like we’re maybe getting confused about terminology here? “Redundancy” is a specific term for a specific form of dismissal. It’s not a euphemism for “firing” because firing someone is a different kind of dismissal. Terms like rightsizing, reset, re-allocating resources, trimming the fat – these are certainly euphemisms for redundancy that should be called out.
That distinction means jack shit to the people that are “made redundant” and everything to the people that have an interest in marketing this as anything other than someone losing their job.
It does. Because being made redundant means you get a pay package when you lose your job. If you get fired, you get nothing.
The article states the layoffs will affect the UK division and EU division, I am assuming you are basing your statement on US laws. www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/notice-periods states that you will get paid for X number of weeks depending on how long you have been in your job.
I am in the UK, so I’m basing it on what I know of the UK
Redundancy is very different to being fired though. When you’re fired you just lose your job and that’s it. If you get made redundant, you lose your job but get paid X amount of months worth of wages to make up for the fact you may be jobless for a while, while you look for a new one. X being different depending on both the countries laws and the company’s policies. But usually it increases the longer you’ve been with the company.