Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew (www.polygon.com)
from ampersandrew@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 18:49
https://lemmy.world/post/21907632

I doubt anything comes of it, but here’s hoping.

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whithom@discuss.online on 11 Nov 19:22 next collapse

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 21:17 collapse

Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

Brumefey@sh.itjust.works on 12 Nov 06:11 collapse

Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

Starbuncle@lemmy.ca on 12 Nov 07:47 collapse

I understand why most companies wouldn’t do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

zalgotext@sh.itjust.works on 13 Nov 07:31 collapse

At minimum they should provide copies of the software to anyone who paid a subscription, and then enterprising individuals would figure out how to get private servers running

shoulderoforion@fedia.io on 11 Nov 19:36 next collapse

If you buy a game, which you cannot use in single player mode, without internet access, you are signing up for this happening to you too, one day, guaranteed.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 21:18 next collapse

“You’re gonna hate the way it feels. I guarantee it.”

Scolding7300@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 05:27 next collapse

At this point I’m afraid only government intervention would help (with citizens asking it to do so)

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 21:29 collapse

Buddy…government doesn’t give a shit about video games. They got wars to start. People to exploit.

Scolding7300@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 06:49 collapse

I think the department that protects consumers isn’t busy with wars

emax_gomax@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 08:29 collapse

I mean, that’s basically all AAA games in 2024. Even songs PC ports which historically avoided DRM and network requirements is starting to mandate PSN accounts. I 100% would prefer to be able to play offline, more often than not it’s unwanted telemetry or BS bloat but that isn’t something we as users can enforce.

ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip on 11 Nov 20:02 next collapse

Only fair I hope it’ll cost them a lot.

cbarrick@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 01:02 collapse

It won’t

exu@feditown.com on 11 Nov 20:06 next collapse

If you’re an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

www.stopkillinggames.com

youTellMe@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 07:32 collapse

Thor summarizes the problems with this initiative pretty well: youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=QPjVZcV7zteBPpos

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 08:36 next collapse

No he doesn’t, he creates strawman and fights them

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 12 Nov 10:12 next collapse

This guy’s strawman arguments have already been destroyed by plenty of people who actually know what they’re talking about and don’t have an interest in keeping the current situation.

iaaudio@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Nov 11:27 next collapse

What a terrible take.

Joelio@lemmy.ml on 12 Nov 10:31 collapse

The guy who won’t go 5 seconds without flashing his “20 years of service to Blizzard” badge also was dumbfounded at the possibility of people self hosting game servers like World of Warcraft, even though they’ve been doing it for years. Dude seems like a MASSIVE know it all.

vikingtons@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 20:09 next collapse

Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny’s Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 20:13 next collapse

It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn’t a “clean kill”, using Ross Scott’s words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we’ll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

Katana314@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 00:22 collapse

I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That’s probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It’s a racing game that shouldn’t need much from a server, so it’s arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

cbarrick@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 01:04 next collapse

it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn’t have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

emax_gomax@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 08:31 collapse

zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it’s that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

cbarrick@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 14:01 collapse

I mean, they don’t have to release the source code. A compiled version would be fine.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 02:10 next collapse

Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they’re not made available.

Starbuncle@lemmy.ca on 12 Nov 07:48 collapse

That’s why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

yamanii@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 11:05 collapse

Don’t get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren’t respecting.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 11 Nov 21:17 next collapse

Ok…4 hours of sleep a night is officially not enough. I’ve been awake for about 2 hours now, and read that as

Grandma sued for shutting down her crew.

DesolateMood@lemm.ee on 12 Nov 00:28 next collapse

Username checks out

shoulderoforion@fedia.io on 12 Nov 00:31 next collapse

Granny ain't fuckin around

DarkDiamondK@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 02:17 next collapse

Close enough

Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works on 12 Nov 10:28 collapse

Reindeer begin keeping tabs on her whereabouts in response.

yamanii@lemmy.world on 12 Nov 11:02 next collapse

Like Ross said, since they are suing in the USA better to not get your hopes up.

NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml on 11 Nov 20:30 next collapse

fuck yeah here we go

punseye@lemmy.world on 13 Nov 08:08 collapse

Modded servers for The Crew: discord.com/invite/gUczTkphGE