Capcom is worried that mods “offensive to public order and morals” will ‘tarnish’ the rep of their PC games (www.rockpapershotgun.com)
from Goronmon@kbin.social to games@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 13:19
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FrigidAphelion@lemm.ee on 02 Nov 2023 13:34 next collapse

lmao fighting r34 is the definition of futility

popekingjoe@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 13:43 next collapse

The Internet is for porn. R34 rules that roost.

Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 13:44 next collapse

It’s not just futile, it’s like fighting fucking Hydra

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 14:21 next collapse

If anything I expect to see more fine degeneracy out of spite.

LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml on 02 Nov 2023 18:50 collapse

Monster dick mods on Monster Hunter are gonna get bigger and more grotesque. Quite a way to assert dominance

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 18:54 collapse

I should revisit that game...

LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml on 02 Nov 2023 19:09 collapse

I have. Not because of the monster dicks, though. Someone just dropped a decently-sized Bloodborne mod

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 14:42 collapse

The mod to give Monster World’s monsters cocks and cloacae was the best fucking mod ever

mergingapples@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 15:44 collapse

That’s a thing?

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 15:48 next collapse

Gawd I can’t find the site! It’s a site that predominately has sexy mods with humans. But I was just interested in the dragons.

It’s EXTREMELY high effort. Bagelgoose’s cock becomes lava rocks when enraged. Insanely detailed. If I find a link, I’ll send it over. It works with Iceborne!

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 17:03 collapse

Here you go! NSFW

www.loverslab.com/…/8824-mhw-female-monsters/

Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 20:44 collapse

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Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 21:11 collapse

Ask my $1k+ of bad dragon—I’ve got no answers!

mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works on 02 Nov 2023 21:18 next collapse

So… you have a single bad dragon?

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 21:28 collapse

Hahaha they’re not THAT spendy! Let’s see, we have… seven total now. Six EXTREMELY various dildos and one fuckdragon. Absolutely had to get the Meatcanyon model too, though I don’t think I’ll ever use it.

Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 06:31 collapse

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Coasting0942@reddthat.com on 02 Nov 2023 13:58 next collapse

Although I don’t understand the appeal of Leon in a g-string, I also understand that Capcom didn’t make the mod.

Heads up capcom, the religious conservatives of the world are angry that kids are playing games and not praying. Your reputation is already in the sewers.

Chariotwheel@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 14:22 collapse

This might be an issue, however:

In a separate slide that’s explained a little more fully, the company adds that the impact of mods on their reputation isn’t just the result of someone stripping Leon Kennedy down to his knickers. Players who install mods only to suffer performance problems such as crashes, freezing or save data corruption can end up turning to Capcom for support, which can then eat up workload and development budget that might otherwise be spent on creating higher-quality games.

ante@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 14:24 next collapse

This sounds like a load of corporate bullshit that they’re going to use to justify preventing modding of their games.

Chariotwheel@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 14:26 collapse

Actually, no.

While it’s hard to imagine anyone finding goofy mods swapping cartoon characters or kids’ TV characters for grisly monsters all that scandalous - something that Capcom seems to recognise by acknowledging that “the majority of mods can have a positive impact on the game”

ante@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 14:38 next collapse

Why are you intentionally leaving out the rest of that sentence?

it’s apparently nevertheless a concern that some mods might be deemed offensive in a way that requires tighter controls on modding.

They are specifically talking about restricting modding.

Chariotwheel@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 15:07 next collapse

Restricting, not preventing like you said.

ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 15:23 collapse

Oh yes, because everyone knows. They say one thing it totally won't morph into something new afterwards. Also how do you imagine they will "restrict" the modding? By making the game more tamperproof and harder to mod. So while it may not be "prevented" they will basically make the only mods around texture swaps or some shit.

MycoBro@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 15:26 collapse

Goddamn. What a shady move. I expect it from the media and shit by for some reason it stings more when a rando does it.

TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 16:58 collapse

They probably spend fractions of a percent of their profits on moderation. We’re talking like 0.01%. Half the time it’s cycling college grads through 18 month contracts that they terminate so they can pay them less and less each time (Source: Worked at Microsoft, and they’re infamous for this. Hell, QA for Microsoft’s game division make about 50 cents above minimum wage in BC.)

Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 14:51 next collapse

I've worked in software support for a decade and saying "We can't support you because you modified this" is pretty standard. And with automated replies they don't take too much support time.

QuinceDaPence@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 15:53 collapse

You could even automate that entire process.

Require customers to email support, require a log file, have your log files show if mods are installed, auto reply that the customer should reinstall the game without mods and see if the issue persists.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 15:55 collapse

If you want to get really snarky, figure out who wrote the mods and cc them on the reply saying "For your convenience we have included the authors of the installed mods on this email so you can work with them to resolve your issue."

Geek_King@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 15:46 next collapse

Yeah that logic on their part is horseshit, anyone savvy enough to mod a game that isn’t mod friendly knows that if they have instability that’s on them for modding in the first place. All the times I completely hosed my Skyrim install with mods, or my Cities: Skylines install with mods, I never once thought about contacting the game maker for support. So to act like across the board modding will cause a flood of support requests is dishonest.

chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Nov 2023 17:29 collapse

I killed my Cyberpunk game trying to mod it. I just changed the installation directory, re-download, and loaded from cloud save when I got sick of trying to fix it. It’s so easy to recover from stuff like that nowadays.

Geek_King@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 18:38 collapse

Exactly, if you hose your self, uninstall, delete the folder entirely and redownload. It’s a cope out to point to mods as increasing demands for technical support. If handled right modding can breath longevity and extra interest in your games. Shit, some of the most popular games on the market started out as mods originally.

Tone deaf companies will continue missing the point.

Coasting0942@reddthat.com on 02 Nov 2023 18:50 next collapse

Gee capcom. Got any hard evidence that people who install mods are going to you for help?

SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 21:33 collapse

Look at the Sims 4 support website, is a good start to see that a lot of people will 100% ask questions like, " Completely moded action, has a bug. How to fix it? I don’t play with any mods I promise."

So personally I don’t have any higher hopes for the Capcom audience, but credit to EA at least they just shrug their shoulders and answer " First completely remove your mods, clean the cache files and repair the game"

LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml on 02 Nov 2023 18:59 collapse

Then just impliment some automatic message before anyone in support is contacted. Something like “If you installed mods in your game, the first step is to uninstall them. If it still works, reinstall the game. If it’s still not working after that, THEN we’ll help”

Maybe worded a little more professionally, but just an automatic trouble-shooting message that’s gonna be every support person’s first response anyway

SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 21:26 collapse

The Sims 4 have a support message like that. I have no idea how much it helps but God knows it is desperately needed.

rockerface@lemm.ee on 02 Nov 2023 14:08 next collapse

Is this the same Capcom that published Devil May Cry games? I’m not sure they need modding to be offending public order and morals

Son_of_dad@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 14:13 next collapse

Capcom’s poor decisions tarnish worse than mods

Kaldo@kbin.social on 02 Nov 2023 14:18 next collapse

Oh no, are we gonna see corporations go after mods now, under the guise of morality and public decency? Fuck offffff

TWeaK@lemm.ee on 02 Nov 2023 14:44 next collapse

More like they’re worried that mods will outshine them and tarnish their reputation as developers.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech on 02 Nov 2023 15:42 next collapse

Because we all know how Bethesda’s reputation was ruined by Skyrim.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev on 02 Nov 2023 15:53 collapse

I mean, kinda. But not in the same way, more like Bethesda makes shit games that modders fix.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 02 Nov 2023 20:40 collapse

That was their reputation before Skyrim. Skyrim’s many re-releases is how that particular game tarnished their rep.

Geek_King@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 15:42 next collapse

May as well try to prevent the tide from coming in by fighting it with your fists.

noxy@yiffit.net on 02 Nov 2023 18:22 next collapse

then why did they make so many of the monster hunter monsters so outrageousky attractive?

paraphrand@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 20:32 collapse

Yeah, it really is their fault for dressing like that.

noxy@yiffit.net on 03 Nov 2023 02:30 collapse

but they’re all naked!

LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml on 02 Nov 2023 19:06 next collapse

This subject keeps popping up, and I think the part that’s really upsetting me besides the whole “I bought this, Capcom, let me do with it what I want” is the idea that you can have a game where the solution to your problems is blowing someone’s head off with a shotgun, but god forbid Chun Li have exposed tits

I’m not here saying that Capcom should just stop putting violence in its games, or that it should just sexualize all of its games. What I AM saying is that the idea that sexuality is inherently more offensive than killing is straight up backwards to me. It’s not even a capcom thing. That’s just most societies, but Capcom is hitting a nerve with this

Touching_Grass@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 19:30 next collapse

I remember hitting a point when I realized how insane it is the most media will solve all problems with guns. Like it makes more sense why the culture cherishes guns after becoming aware how weird it is.

Zion@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 02:23 collapse

What I AM saying is that the idea that sexuality is inherently more offensive than killing is straight up backwards to me. It’s not even a capcom thing. That’s just most societies, but Capcom is hitting a nerve with this

Exactly, it’s ludicrous and always was. Especially in this day and age.

  • Mom/Dad: Billy what are you watching?
  • Billy: The Texas chainsaw massacre.
  • Mom/Dad: What happens in that?
  • Billy: People get hacked up with a chainsaw.
  • Mom/Dad: Oh, ok.

Later that day:

  • Mom/Dad: Billy what are you doing?
  • Billy: I’m playing Street fighter.
  • Mom/Dad: What’s that?
  • Billy: It’s a one on one fighting game.
  • Mom/Dad: Oh, that’s nice… Wait a minute, IS THAT A PAIR OF BREASTS BILLY!!!
  • Billy: yeah, I installed this mod and…
  • Mom/Dad: THAT’S IT! (Proceeds to confiscate the console)

As a parent myself, I understand not wanting to expose your kid to sexual content depending on their age, but in the context of sexual intercourse etc, not just a naked body.

Cybersteel@lemmy.ml on 04 Nov 2023 18:22 collapse

I think the big difference is while violence is an expected part of life from wars and fights, sexual content is not.

9bananas@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2023 08:52 collapse

sexual content

not an expected part of life

say that again, but very slowly…

alternatively I’d be thrilled to hear all about these alternative ways to have kids that you apparently think are out there…and then I’d like it explained to me how exactly that’s not an “expected part of life”??

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 02 Nov 2023 20:38 next collapse

You know what tarnishes the rep of your games? Shitty business practices.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 02 Nov 2023 20:39 next collapse

Capcom exec is mad that someone replaced the 9 foot tall dracula woman with Thomas the Tank Engine.

Monkeyhog@lemmy.world on 02 Nov 2023 21:10 next collapse

Honestly, if it isn’t “offensive to public order and morals” I’m not that interested.

val@infosec.pub on 03 Nov 2023 00:04 next collapse

I don’t think I’ve seen any public backlash hitting the developer or publisher for the content of a mod being “offensive to public order and morals” since the hot coffee stuff, and that was only because it was content already in the game. This is almost certainly a lie and the real reason is they’re worried mods will compete with things they’re selling.

[deleted] on 03 Nov 2023 02:06 collapse

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val@infosec.pub on 03 Nov 2023 02:12 collapse

It was literally the reference point I used in my post for the last time I’ve seen any real backlash, in the first sentence.

cottonmon@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 00:21 next collapse

I can’t help but feel this stance is because of a recent fuck up where a person hosting a tournament didn’t turn off his nude Chun-Li mod while streaming it.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 02:19 collapse

That would be an issue of moderation, tho, not the mods themselves.

beefcat@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 02:28 next collapse

it’s funny how this was a pretty long and nuanced discussion about modding, but social media is brewing a shitstorm over this one cherry-picked statement.

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 03 Nov 2023 02:49 collapse

Didn’t you give Cammy a huge dumpy for a reason?

You can’t do anything about it, so owe up to it and offer an SDK and Workshop support where you can at least curate the experience and steer it in the right direction.