Does that mean they should stop functioning because Nintendo is suing them?
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz
on 27 Nov 13:33
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That lawsuit might take years, and the requested damages from Nintendo are only $66,000. Palworld isn’t going to be shut down anytime soon, even if they lose the case.
The Palnoctahedron. “It’s a totally different shape and it’s just the fact that it’s very small, and we enabled smooth shading, that makes it look like we haven’t done anything to it.”
Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz
on 27 Nov 14:11
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There was a request to halt sales until the specific mechanics were removed, with the mechanics being throwing pokeball like items and riding monsters.
Blizzard of course can’t sue anyone because that would require an original idea to copyright.
ICastFist@programming.dev
on 27 Nov 20:20
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ackshually 🤓
One of the patents was for seamlessly transitioning from one type of ride to another, as it happens in Legends Arceus, ie: jumping into the water while riding the stag will automatically change to the giant piranha. The irony here is that palworld lacks anything like that, you never transition between 2 different mounts without player input. The closest to that is using some pals as gliders, but you’ll just get back on your feet once you touch the ground or water.
Another patent was for throwing stuff at enemies in order to begin combat. They’re all hard reads, mostly because they read like they’re describing how Legends Arceus works in minute detail.
They would still have to face the courts in Japan if they want to sell in Japan.
Your line of thinking is the same thing that X fell for with Brazil. Just because you don’t have your HQ in a particular country doesn’t mean the legal system can be ignored. Otherwise the EU wouldn’t be gifting fines to Google and Apple every 15 minutes.
The suit is effectively not about the money at all. It’s about setting a precedent in Japanese court to basically allow Nintendo to patent whatever they want, whenever they want, so they can go after and shut down competitors with ease. Pirate Software has a decent and short breakdown on their youtube channel iirc
cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de
on 27 Nov 15:33
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The patents were filed after the features were already in their other game, Craftopia.
I don’t care how much of a pirate cheapo game this is, watching Nintendo go ape over practically a knockoff someone could have made as a joke is amusing, especially with their playerbase success.
What were you doing for the majority of those 30 hours? Most likely resource gathering, building your base, optimizing pal usage, etc… Basically the only similarity is that you throw spheres at creatures. There’s no gyms, no turn based gameplay, no trading, no evolution, and not even really trainer battles, just some unique encounters.
You cannot copyright a vague idea. No matter how much Nintendo might want to.
The game is basically just magic animals in the world that you can capture and do things with. It’s literally every JRPG ever. It’s just mounts with extra features.
logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 27 Nov 14:33
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Just one more update bro
peopleproblems@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 14:40
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Man
I can’t even begin to fathom what they would cook up
cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de
on 27 Nov 15:34
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Can’t wait to put my wall of flesh to work.
Tattorack@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 14:55
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Is Palworld still a janky mess?
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 17:59
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I think that’s a fair question given how it initially launched.
I’m no longer falling through the map. I can’t remember the last time that happened (except for the early days of the game).
I’ve only seen other players joining my world getting stuck inside of rocks when they initially spawn in, but you can just get out by spawning a pal that you can mount right next to the rock that you’re stuck in. Edit: Note: This bug is rare and doesn’t happen often anymore.
Thanks for the answer. How are other elements in the game?
I wanted to get Palworld until I saw a friend play it near launch. I held off of buying it for these reasons:
Bad pathfinding with enemies and allies getting stuck or easily confused by terrain objects.
“Dumb”/static enemy AI behaviour, such as just standing and doing its basic attack animation.
Character clipping issues with player structures.
Occasional really weird physics issues.
Good they fixed the map falling issue, though.
ICastFist@programming.dev
on 27 Nov 20:28
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Pathfinding still sucks and people abuse that for bosses, building walls or whatever to glitch them. The good-ish is that this has been mostly fixed for base working pals, they’ll either work in place or teleport to the thing where they’re supposed to work. Sometimes they may still drop “inside” foundations, so you gotta remove/add them again from the base bench.
Enemy AI still sucks - same applies for your combat pals’ AI. Attack, wait, maybe move a bit, repeat. They don’t dodge or attempt to move except when positioning for an attack.
Happens more often with online play. Playing offline is a lot more stable regarding clipping issues
Guess I’ll have to wait till the game is a bit more cooked. Bummer. I hope they win this stupid lawsuit from Nintendo, because Palworld does have good potential.
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 21:33
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Bad Pathfinding:
Allies: aren’t getting stuck anywhere near as often at my base compared to what they were doing near launch. I haven’t noticed it recently, but they likely still get stuck depending on how complicated your base gets. Beyond that, any pathfinding is fairly basic, they’re not smart about it.
Enemies: I’ve seen them navigate through trees and up simple mountain trails when they’re running away from me. And if you attack them, and hide up on a nearby cliffside they usually just get stuck at the cliffside below you trying to walk into the wall.
Dumb/Static enemy behaviour:
Yeah this is still very basic. They usually stay in the same place unless they are running away, chasing you, switching targets, or using an ability that forces them to move. It’s trivial to just hide behind a tree or a boulder and attack them until their health is low enough to catch. They won’t actively try to adjust their angle of attack to compensate for objects between you and them.
Character clipping issues:
The only player structure I still have clipping issues with is one structure meant for increasing your storage/showing off pals at your base. Even then I only saw one player get stuck in it once recently. But he was probably jumping around on top of it for that to happen. It’s rare to see issues at the level we saw at launch.
Really weird physics issues:
The one I can remember off the top of my head was where an attack could launch a character up into the stratosphere and then they would fall and instantly die when they finally hit the ground. I haven’t seen anything like that in months.
My understanding is they keep adding features even though they’re supposed to be done because they still play the game constantly themselves and end up wanting more content.
If you do what you love, you’ll be constantly working the rest of your life.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 22:54
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I know this is probably isn’t true but it’s my head cannon that they’re just really afraid to put out a “state of the game [month]” posts without anything in it
affiliate@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 17:25
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2025! is quite a ways away
randombullet@programming.dev
on 27 Nov 20:14
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Nintendo are suing them, but Nintendo sue everyone.
The Japanese copyright courts are stupid, it doesn’t matter how clearly something isn’t a case, it still goes to trial if one of the parties is big and important enough. They don’t seem to have proper separation of law and government. So political bigwigs can get involved.
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I beg your exquisite pardon?
Granted
2024 is not finished for anybody on earth, pal.
maybe some people…
Aren’t they being sued by Nintendo rn? That’s some balls from both sides lol.
Does that mean they should stop functioning because Nintendo is suing them?
That lawsuit might take years, and the requested damages from Nintendo are only $66,000. Palworld isn’t going to be shut down anytime soon, even if they lose the case.
The request includes a term to shutdown Palworld IIRC
I looked through a few articles but couldn’t find anything about a term that would shutdown Palworld just because Nintendo won the lawsuit.
The worst case scenario would be something like Palworld having to change their “Pal Spheres” into “Pal Cubes” or prisms, or something similar.
The Palnoctahedron. “It’s a totally different shape and it’s just the fact that it’s very small, and we enabled smooth shading, that makes it look like we haven’t done anything to it.”
There was a request to halt sales until the specific mechanics were removed, with the mechanics being throwing pokeball like items and riding monsters.
Trying do ban riding fictional animals is a tall order
Fuck it, have Nintendo sue blizzard whole they’re at it. I want to see a nerd bloodbath.
Blizzard of course can’t sue anyone because that would require an original idea to copyright.
ackshually 🤓
One of the patents was for seamlessly transitioning from one type of ride to another, as it happens in Legends Arceus, ie: jumping into the water while riding the stag will automatically change to the giant piranha. The irony here is that palworld lacks anything like that, you never transition between 2 different mounts without player input. The closest to that is using some pals as gliders, but you’ll just get back on your feet once you touch the ground or water.
Another patent was for throwing stuff at enemies in order to begin combat. They’re all hard reads, mostly because they read like they’re describing how Legends Arceus works in minute detail.
Are Nintendo suing reality now? I must admit, it would be very on brand for them.
In Japan.
With the money they’ve made already, they could move the team to US, where none of this would fly.
They would still have to face the courts in Japan if they want to sell in Japan.
Your line of thinking is the same thing that X fell for with Brazil. Just because you don’t have your HQ in a particular country doesn’t mean the legal system can be ignored. Otherwise the EU wouldn’t be gifting fines to Google and Apple every 15 minutes.
The suit is effectively not about the money at all. It’s about setting a precedent in Japanese court to basically allow Nintendo to patent whatever they want, whenever they want, so they can go after and shut down competitors with ease. Pirate Software has a decent and short breakdown on their youtube channel iirc
The patents were filed after the features were already in their other game, Craftopia.
Ayo?? I’m intrigued?
I don’t care how much of a pirate cheapo game this is, watching Nintendo go ape over practically a knockoff someone could have made as a joke is amusing, especially with their playerbase success.
It’s pretty fun, more fun than modern Pokemon, but I’m just a trash gentwo’er.
Gen 2 is the best gen
Idk man there is a reason silver is always second
Emerald was the best pokemon game of all time
is there truly any aspect where gsc surpasses hgss?
It only has a surface level similarity to pokemon. It’s as much like fallout 4 as it is pokemon.
palworld is more like ark anyway
Idk I literally went around just catching pals and spent 30 hours doing that, seems pretty pokemon to me.
What were you doing for the majority of those 30 hours? Most likely resource gathering, building your base, optimizing pal usage, etc… Basically the only similarity is that you throw spheres at creatures. There’s no gyms, no turn based gameplay, no trading, no evolution, and not even really trainer battles, just some unique encounters.
You: “bet you had to optimize and synergize and energize…”
Me: “haha, crossbow and pal sphere go brrr.”
As long as you can see it’s not pokemon lol
The day Pokémon adds crossbows it might be fun again
Nothing is gonna save it until game freak gets a change in management
You cannot copyright a vague idea. No matter how much Nintendo might want to.
The game is basically just magic animals in the world that you can capture and do things with. It’s literally every JRPG ever. It’s just mounts with extra features.
Just one more update bro
Man
I can’t even begin to fathom what they would cook up
Can’t wait to put my wall of flesh to work.
Is Palworld still a janky mess?
I think that’s a fair question given how it initially launched.
I’m no longer falling through the map. I can’t remember the last time that happened (except for the early days of the game).
I’ve only seen other players joining my world getting stuck inside of rocks when they initially spawn in, but you can just get out by spawning a pal that you can mount right next to the rock that you’re stuck in. Edit: Note: This bug is rare and doesn’t happen often anymore.
Thanks for the answer. How are other elements in the game?
I wanted to get Palworld until I saw a friend play it near launch. I held off of buying it for these reasons:
Bad pathfinding with enemies and allies getting stuck or easily confused by terrain objects.
“Dumb”/static enemy AI behaviour, such as just standing and doing its basic attack animation.
Character clipping issues with player structures.
Occasional really weird physics issues.
Good they fixed the map falling issue, though.
Guess I’ll have to wait till the game is a bit more cooked. Bummer. I hope they win this stupid lawsuit from Nintendo, because Palworld does have good potential.
Bad Pathfinding:
Dumb/Static enemy behaviour:
Yeah this is still very basic. They usually stay in the same place unless they are running away, chasing you, switching targets, or using an ability that forces them to move. It’s trivial to just hide behind a tree or a boulder and attack them until their health is low enough to catch. They won’t actively try to adjust their angle of attack to compensate for objects between you and them.
Character clipping issues:
The only player structure I still have clipping issues with is one structure meant for increasing your storage/showing off pals at your base. Even then I only saw one player get stuck in it once recently. But he was probably jumping around on top of it for that to happen. It’s rare to see issues at the level we saw at launch.
Really weird physics issues:
The one I can remember off the top of my head was where an attack could launch a character up into the stratosphere and then they would fall and instantly die when they finally hit the ground. I haven’t seen anything like that in months.
i love how terraria is the 7th best selling game ever and they are just chill with everyone.
i adore the dedication to fun. they just keep rollin.
Re-Logic is just chill overall. Barely any drama and they respect their players. Which I love!
Red making the best Mario fan game is just a weird factoid.
My understanding is they keep adding features even though they’re supposed to be done because they still play the game constantly themselves and end up wanting more content.
its true. the biggest terraria fans are the devs.
If you do what you love, you’ll be constantly working the rest of your life.
I know this is probably isn’t true but it’s my head cannon that they’re just really afraid to put out a “state of the game [month]” posts without anything in it
2025! is quite a ways away
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what if i can’t wait that long
It’s not that long. You’ll be okay.
Skill issue tbh
To quote a legendary sbemail:
That is not a small number! That is a big number!
Unexpected factorial.
Summoner class going to eat good. Guess I’ll do another playthrough of terraria.
I don’t play either of these games.
This post made me happy.
THAT WAS UNEXPECTED
That’s awesome, I thought they got murdered by Nintendo.
Nintendo are suing them, but Nintendo sue everyone.
The Japanese copyright courts are stupid, it doesn’t matter how clearly something isn’t a case, it still goes to trial if one of the parties is big and important enough. They don’t seem to have proper separation of law and government. So political bigwigs can get involved.
“Looks like <Terraria> & <Palworld> are throwing a party!”
Terraria seems so relaxed. They just kind of seem to be coexisting with everyone which i love.
Does that mean the next terraria update will have 2 crossovers?
Catching pokemon in Terraria?
Count me in.