I’m with you. Very puritan, kinkshaming article. Stellar Blade might not be my thing, but I know not to yuck people’s yum. One could take the opportunity to discuss sexual objectification, but apparently that’s off the table.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 15 Jun 15:14
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I have a complaint for sure, there wasn’t a slutty outfit for Adam. This is outrageous and unfair, I demand equal representation
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org
on 15 Jun 14:57
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The title was funnier than the article, I must admit.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
on 15 Jun 07:44
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This is the best artictle title of this year too for sure. I love it.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 15 Jun 15:11
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If screeching puritans are going to get mad about some people liking to look at pretty ladies saving humanity from monsters (but who is the monster, really), maybe reconsider playing into the reactionary gameplan so enthusiastically.
It’s hardly a patriarchal work. Eve is a badass respected for her skills working on behalf of The Mother Sphere… And who only wears stripper gear if that’s what the player wants. The difference between this and Bayonetta, for example, is that you’ve decided to react exactly the way the conservatives want you to.
Now, if you want to talk about how they very clearly edited out some serious homophobia for the English release that’s another thing but Korea gonna Korea
The vid I linked to basically said that the game is ok but derivative and not that great. The main point he was making is to point out how the “controversy” around the game doesn’t actually exist. It’s a bunch of made up crap by grifters to make idiots foam at the mouth. And it worked. And now these idiots think Stellar Blade is the next coming of Christ and the bullwark against the woke mind virus games blah blah blah…
Misogyny in stuff can be really complicated. Sometimes you can only really see it holistically, and sometimes it’s only in specifics. Sometimes a story will give a woman a lot of focus, place her feelings and emotions in the spotlight and give her actions the most agency and power over the plot- while also having her be inexplicably dressed in lingerie the whole time with a really weak excuse, if any.
Like, I love FF12. Ashe is undisputably the actual main character in it, and her story is about being a person with authority in a time of war. It’s about grappling with your own grief and desire for revenge, trying to keep in mind your principles and what you believe in. It somehow manages to be both about the divine right of kings and weapons of mass destruction and maintained it’s emotional thru line almost all the way to the end!
But also, Ashe, that hot pink mini-skirt? Girrrrrl, WTF, you live in a desert. You’re gonna fight things in a skirt made of two pink napkins? There’s no real reason for her to dress like that, and it’s definitely just for fan service!
I still love the game, but I acknowledge that it has that problem. It objectifies women because it treats them as visual treats and has them dress in bizzare ways that don’t flow adequately from their characterization. This is because of structural societal things, and it sucks for a bunch of reasons.
Bayonetta is different primarily because the work’s themes are, as I understand them, incredibly positive about women being active, powerful sexual people who do what they want.
B dresses like that because she likes being hot, and it’s a characterization tool, and it’s never a disempowering thing for her.
Like, Kill la Kill has ridiculous outfits, but I’ve had multiple women tell me they love it because of how it intersects with things they like. I wasn’t going to watch it until one of them insisted and, yeah, it’s pretty good. The sexual elements are intended and used as part of the narrative, and the emotional thru line is very strong.
So, it’s one of those things that needs an exhaustive breakdown to really know about in a work. I don’t know enough about this one to say, and I’m just commented in hopes that it’s useful for you or someone else looking at doing media analysis of this type.
I couldn’t make it through the whole 2hr essay, but I can’t disagree with some of his criticisms of the game. It’s just that they never bothered me, and I found the AAish quality of the game really cozy.
I completely agree with him about just how manufactured the “woke outrage” seemed to be, though. I just fundamentally believe “woke” lost its meaning some time ago and doesn’t really define anything anymore. It is really handy for letting mindless culture-warrior types flag themselves, though. I certainly doubt the IGN article was the ONLY article criticizing eve’s character design, but I think it served as a great example of just how far up their own asses the anti-woke crowd love to be.
I’m forced to agree. It feels weird to do so, but, I guess yeah- the thing which should be focused on is the how and why of this and not just focus on the puritan disgust angle.
I’ve seen the Shaun video (linked in these replies somewhere) so I’m familiar with what’s going on socially around this video game. Being upset because of misogynistic objectification is appropriate, but sex isn’t inherently bad.
Gooner is my word of the year for 2025, it’s an instant classic
terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Jun 16:41
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And this is a problem, why? Mods are from the community. It’s what they want to add or change in the game. You could probably get similar numbers for a lot of games.
Hell, forget Nexus, look at lovers lab (or don’t if you wanna stay pure lol).
Eggyhead@lemmings.world
on 16 Jun 11:28
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Conservatives should be banning mods if they’re banning books. Games are for children, right? Right???
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What a stupid article. But hey, I now know that Stellar Blade has been released on PC.
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I’m with you. Very puritan, kinkshaming article. Stellar Blade might not be my thing, but I know not to yuck people’s yum. One could take the opportunity to discuss sexual objectification, but apparently that’s off the table.
I have a complaint for sure, there wasn’t a slutty outfit for Adam. This is outrageous and unfair, I demand equal representation
The title was funnier than the article, I must admit.
This is the best artictle title of this year too for sure. I love it.
Josh’s articles seem to be bangers most of the time.
Unlike the people he’s writing about, which probably never banged.
Just took a look on Nexus, and yeah… They’re down bad
41% is way less than I was expecting.
I bet compared to the base game outfits it’s not even that high
Would be nice if this place could refrain from sliding into reactionary conservatism even ironically.
The reactionaries are the ones championing this franchise
If screeching puritans are going to get mad about some people liking to look at pretty ladies saving humanity from monsters (but who is the monster, really), maybe reconsider playing into the reactionary gameplan so enthusiastically.
It’s hardly a patriarchal work. Eve is a badass respected for her skills working on behalf of The Mother Sphere… And who only wears stripper gear if that’s what the player wants. The difference between this and Bayonetta, for example, is that you’ve decided to react exactly the way the conservatives want you to.
Now, if you want to talk about how they very clearly edited out some serious homophobia for the English release that’s another thing but Korea gonna Korea
The vid I linked to basically said that the game is ok but derivative and not that great. The main point he was making is to point out how the “controversy” around the game doesn’t actually exist. It’s a bunch of made up crap by grifters to make idiots foam at the mouth. And it worked. And now these idiots think Stellar Blade is the next coming of Christ and the bullwark against the woke mind virus games blah blah blah…
Misogyny in stuff can be really complicated. Sometimes you can only really see it holistically, and sometimes it’s only in specifics. Sometimes a story will give a woman a lot of focus, place her feelings and emotions in the spotlight and give her actions the most agency and power over the plot- while also having her be inexplicably dressed in lingerie the whole time with a really weak excuse, if any.
Like, I love FF12. Ashe is undisputably the actual main character in it, and her story is about being a person with authority in a time of war. It’s about grappling with your own grief and desire for revenge, trying to keep in mind your principles and what you believe in. It somehow manages to be both about the divine right of kings and weapons of mass destruction and maintained it’s emotional thru line almost all the way to the end!
But also, Ashe, that hot pink mini-skirt? Girrrrrl, WTF, you live in a desert. You’re gonna fight things in a skirt made of two pink napkins? There’s no real reason for her to dress like that, and it’s definitely just for fan service!
I still love the game, but I acknowledge that it has that problem. It objectifies women because it treats them as visual treats and has them dress in bizzare ways that don’t flow adequately from their characterization. This is because of structural societal things, and it sucks for a bunch of reasons.
Bayonetta is different primarily because the work’s themes are, as I understand them, incredibly positive about women being active, powerful sexual people who do what they want.
B dresses like that because she likes being hot, and it’s a characterization tool, and it’s never a disempowering thing for her.
Like, Kill la Kill has ridiculous outfits, but I’ve had multiple women tell me they love it because of how it intersects with things they like. I wasn’t going to watch it until one of them insisted and, yeah, it’s pretty good. The sexual elements are intended and used as part of the narrative, and the emotional thru line is very strong.
So, it’s one of those things that needs an exhaustive breakdown to really know about in a work. I don’t know enough about this one to say, and I’m just commented in hopes that it’s useful for you or someone else looking at doing media analysis of this type.
I couldn’t make it through the whole 2hr essay, but I can’t disagree with some of his criticisms of the game. It’s just that they never bothered me, and I found the AAish quality of the game really cozy.
I completely agree with him about just how manufactured the “woke outrage” seemed to be, though. I just fundamentally believe “woke” lost its meaning some time ago and doesn’t really define anything anymore. It is really handy for letting mindless culture-warrior types flag themselves, though. I certainly doubt the IGN article was the ONLY article criticizing eve’s character design, but I think it served as a great example of just how far up their own asses the anti-woke crowd love to be.
I’m forced to agree. It feels weird to do so, but, I guess yeah- the thing which should be focused on is the how and why of this and not just focus on the puritan disgust angle.
I’ve seen the Shaun video (linked in these replies somewhere) so I’m familiar with what’s going on socially around this video game. Being upset because of misogynistic objectification is appropriate, but sex isn’t inherently bad.
Gooner is my word of the year for 2025, it’s an instant classic
And this is a problem, why? Mods are from the community. It’s what they want to add or change in the game. You could probably get similar numbers for a lot of games.
Hell, forget Nexus, look at lovers lab (or don’t if you wanna stay pure lol).
Conservatives should be banning mods if they’re banning books. Games are for children, right? Right???
This is the same team that made Nikke they know exactly what kind of audience this game is pulling