I don’t know about you people, but given how much stress Disco Elysium puts on how fucked up the main character is, I feel like it is no surprise that its developers get into conflicts all the time.
RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social
on 16 Nov 05:49
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The left eats the left because we are delicious ;3
I don’t really know what’s going on here nor whether anyone involved is actually a leftist; I just wanted to spew some wordplay :3
Commiunism@beehaw.org
on 16 Nov 06:25
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Nah, it’s less fun than that. The capital is eating the left, again :(
it sounds more like business people dicking each other over. why bring politics into it?
RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social
on 17 Nov 08:45
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All in all, this kind of in-fighting among leftist game developers is something that was actually parodied in Disco Elysium, making the situation all the more ironic.
The article’s author put politics into your video games news, not me. Not that I’m at all sorry: those who want to bury their heads in sand shouldn’t peek out and get upset at the world for still being present. I want out too but I’ve not got nearly enough privilege to pretend “this is fine” except for people talking about it.
I wasnt suggesting “burying my head in the sand” or ignoring politics generally. I just half assedly read the article and thought it was more about a big corporation throttling the project, but I clearly missed the point entirely. Youre right.
Commiunism@beehaw.org
on 16 Nov 06:23
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Some context, albeit simplified: Disco Elysium as an IP and the company behind it (ZA/UM) practically got stolen by some rich investors from the original developers, and most of the original team left or got fired. There were plans for an official sequel of the game, but it got cancelled recently and since then, three games got announced back to back to back by three different studios and have promised to deliver a spiritual successor to Disco Elysium. The companies are:
Longdue. They have some of the people who developed the original game plus people from big companies like Bungie, Rockstar, but they’re also in bed with ZA/UM and are the ones suing the other two companies.
Dark Math Games. While they do have the most ‘game’ currently as in their spiritual sequel titled ‘XXX Nightshift’ has some trailers and a Steam page, there’s not that much known about them.
Summer Eternal. It’s a workers co-op studio led by an original games’ writer. They have a website which hosts their manifesto, and having read it it’s definitely very Disco, would recommend.
SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org
on 16 Nov 07:29
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I believe Summer Eternal is a Consumer co-op, isn’t it? Or if not looks very like it.
There is also Red Info which is Robert Kurvitz, Alex Rostov, Helen Hindpere and Martin Luiga. They are apparently working on something and will probably make an announcement next year (according to Martin Luiga on his recent Human Can Opener podcast appearance).
Or don’t, since the actual devs get nothing from the sale if you do.
thingsiplay@beehaw.org
on 16 Nov 07:31
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With that logic we should never buy a game, unless it is directly going to the developers hands? If you want it in your Steam library, then its the best time to buy it now probably while there is a sale active and before you cannot in the future, in case it gets unlisted caused by these legal issues. BTW I’m not doing the FOMO: FEAR OF MISSING OUT here. This is for people like me who rely on Steam library for convenience.
Piracy doesn’t solve what I was saying. It is still not integrated into Steam and my account after pirating the game.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de
on 16 Nov 15:23
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do devs ever get something from the sale? i would imagine they have positions with salaries, not some type of “you get x% from every sale” sort of deal.
I mean in this case it was their company at the start. Like they get (or got) money from it in a way that the usual developer doesn’t. And in this case it’s because of a shitty, greedy action we have a pretty easy solution to. That being piracy.
Commiunism@beehaw.org
on 16 Nov 07:52
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Don’t think it will get unlisted, as the lawsuit only relates to spiritual successors of the game and not the original game itself.
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz
on 16 Nov 11:58
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It’s not getting unlisted. This news has nothing to do with the company currently called ZA/UM (apart from, of course, stealing the company away from the creators and making this situation).
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I don’t know about you people, but given how much stress Disco Elysium puts on how fucked up the main character is, I feel like it is no surprise that its developers get into conflicts all the time.
The left eats the left because we are delicious ;3
I don’t really know what’s going on here nor whether anyone involved is actually a leftist; I just wanted to spew some wordplay :3
Nah, it’s less fun than that. The capital is eating the left, again :(
is that why there’s never any left over?
It's a case of The People's Front of Judea throwing sticks at the Judean People's Front
it sounds more like business people dicking each other over. why bring politics into it?
The article’s author put politics into your video games news, not me. Not that I’m at all sorry: those who want to bury their heads in sand shouldn’t peek out and get upset at the world for still being present. I want out too but I’ve not got nearly enough privilege to pretend “this is fine” except for people talking about it.
I wasnt suggesting “burying my head in the sand” or ignoring politics generally. I just half assedly read the article and thought it was more about a big corporation throttling the project, but I clearly missed the point entirely. Youre right.
Some context, albeit simplified: Disco Elysium as an IP and the company behind it (ZA/UM) practically got stolen by some rich investors from the original developers, and most of the original team left or got fired. There were plans for an official sequel of the game, but it got cancelled recently and since then, three games got announced back to back to back by three different studios and have promised to deliver a spiritual successor to Disco Elysium. The companies are:
Longdue. They have some of the people who developed the original game plus people from big companies like Bungie, Rockstar, but they’re also in bed with ZA/UM and are the ones suing the other two companies.
Dark Math Games. While they do have the most ‘game’ currently as in their spiritual sequel titled ‘XXX Nightshift’ has some trailers and a Steam page, there’s not that much known about them.
Summer Eternal. It’s a workers co-op studio led by an original games’ writer. They have a website which hosts their manifesto, and having read it it’s definitely very Disco, would recommend.
I believe Summer Eternal is a Consumer co-op, isn’t it? Or if not looks very like it.
There is also Red Info which is Robert Kurvitz, Alex Rostov, Helen Hindpere and Martin Luiga. They are apparently working on something and will probably make an announcement next year (according to Martin Luiga on his recent Human Can Opener podcast appearance).
Buy the game before it gets unlisted. It’s currently in on sale: …steampowered.com/…/Disco_Elysium__The_Final_Cut/
Or don’t, since the actual devs get nothing from the sale if you do.
With that logic we should never buy a game, unless it is directly going to the developers hands? If you want it in your Steam library, then its the best time to buy it now probably while there is a sale active and before you cannot in the future, in case it gets unlisted caused by these legal issues. BTW I’m not doing the FOMO: FEAR OF MISSING OUT here. This is for people like me who rely on Steam library for convenience.
Yeah, fair enough - you do have a point.
logic seems fine, sail the seven seas!
Piracy doesn’t solve what I was saying. It is still not integrated into Steam and my account after pirating the game.
do devs ever get something from the sale? i would imagine they have positions with salaries, not some type of “you get x% from every sale” sort of deal.
I mean in this case it was their company at the start. Like they get (or got) money from it in a way that the usual developer doesn’t. And in this case it’s because of a shitty, greedy action we have a pretty easy solution to. That being piracy.
Don’t think it will get unlisted, as the lawsuit only relates to spiritual successors of the game and not the original game itself.
It’s not getting unlisted. This news has nothing to do with the company currently called ZA/UM (apart from, of course, stealing the company away from the creators and making this situation).