melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 14 Jul 14:58
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Please be sure to sign it if you are from the EU. We might need 1.4 million signatures, since some people signed from outside the EU. And those will not count.
One of the biggest controversies at the start of all of this was Ubisoft pulling The Crew whilst pushing people to buy The Crew 2. Frankly itās amazing we havenāt seen that more often with the near identical sequels such as the Madden, FIFA, F1 etc games.
No oneās forcing you to buy a remasterā¦ unless they are because they revoke your right to play the original so itās your only option.
Remasters and remakes will still happen but companies wonāt have as much freedom to yoink a purchased product from your pocket years down the track in the name of some profit strategy.
Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Jul 16:49
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But I want to resell it to the same person for further profit
One of the biggest controversies at the start of all of this was Ubisoft pulling The Crew whilst pushing people to buy The Crew 2.
I know about The Crew, but itās not like Ubisoft had a Special Edition or something lined up that replaced the original game, and you had to buy it again. There was no reselling, the sequel is a different game.
Nothing in the SKG initiative is against Sequels, Remasters, Remakes, whatever. Itās not even about keeping a game in stores forever. It isnāt against yearly releases of Fifa, Madden, NBA 2k, that get removed after a few years, as long as you can still play your copy of Fifa 26 in twenty years.
No oneās forcing you to buy a remasterā¦ unless they are because they revoke your right to play the original so itās your only option.
Thatās the thing though, does this really happen? Usually games that get completely removed, that you canāt even play anymore are multiplayer games, live service stuff, that are just so dead that nobody is even remotely interested in a remaster, so the game is just gone.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Jul 17:17
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People could still play the Overwatch that they paid for if the game hadnāt been designed to require Blizzardās continued support and approval to function. In some number of years, Fortnite will be shutdown or replaced with something different and the people who grew up playing Fortnite will never be able to go back to play it again.
Thereās clearly interest in online-only games that are killed. World of Warcraft and Runescape have classic versions so you can play a variation of the game how it used to be.
Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Jul 18:24
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True, didnāt think about games like this, but thatās the case for every online-only game, even if the changes might not be as drastic as OW1 -> OW2. Itās not like you can roll back a patch in FF14, Siege or Destiny and play on that version, if you donāt like the direction the game is going.
I donāt think a part of SKG is making sure all different patch versions of a game are available and playable, once the devs end support for a game.
BTW Iām not against SKG, Iāve signed the petition, but when people say this would keep companies from selling the game forever, kill yearly installments of some franchise, or would āforceā devs to make old version of their favorite game available, thatās not what SKG wants to do.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
on 14 Jul 15:01
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It was Nicolae ČtefÄnuČÄ from the GreensāEuropean Free Alliance which was always going to be one of the political groups more likely to support this initiative.
We need to convince MEPs in the PES and EPP to really get a directive approved.
I donāt think this changes anything for movies unless thereās somewhere you can ābuyā a copy of a movie but they donāt let you download an offline copy. If they ārentā you the movie or you āsubscribeā to a streaming service, none of this applies.
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Please be sure to sign it if you are from the EU. We might need 1.4 million signatures, since some people signed from outside the EU. And those will not count.
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci
But I want to resell it to the same person for further profit ššš„ŗ - AAA Game Publishers
Not really what this is about.
They could even still keep doing that with Remasters, Remakes, Ports on a new Console, Special Editions, whatever.
Yeah, what they really do is worse.
They just remove your ability to buy/play the original, so literally everyone loses.
I mean, SKG is about keeping the game still playable, not buyable forever.
One of the biggest controversies at the start of all of this was Ubisoft pulling The Crew whilst pushing people to buy The Crew 2. Frankly itās amazing we havenāt seen that more often with the near identical sequels such as the Madden, FIFA, F1 etc games.
No oneās forcing you to buy a remasterā¦ unless they are because they revoke your right to play the original so itās your only option.
Remasters and remakes will still happen but companies wonāt have as much freedom to yoink a purchased product from your pocket years down the track in the name of some profit strategy.
I know about The Crew, but itās not like Ubisoft had a Special Edition or something lined up that replaced the original game, and you had to buy it again. There was no reselling, the sequel is a different game.
Nothing in the SKG initiative is against Sequels, Remasters, Remakes, whatever. Itās not even about keeping a game in stores forever. It isnāt against yearly releases of Fifa, Madden, NBA 2k, that get removed after a few years, as long as you can still play your copy of Fifa 26 in twenty years.
Thatās the thing though, does this really happen? Usually games that get completely removed, that you canāt even play anymore are multiplayer games, live service stuff, that are just so dead that nobody is even remotely interested in a remaster, so the game is just gone.
People could still play the Overwatch that they paid for if the game hadnāt been designed to require Blizzardās continued support and approval to function. In some number of years, Fortnite will be shutdown or replaced with something different and the people who grew up playing Fortnite will never be able to go back to play it again.
Thereās clearly interest in online-only games that are killed. World of Warcraft and Runescape have classic versions so you can play a variation of the game how it used to be.
True, didnāt think about games like this, but thatās the case for every online-only game, even if the changes might not be as drastic as OW1 -> OW2. Itās not like you can roll back a patch in FF14, Siege or Destiny and play on that version, if you donāt like the direction the game is going.
I donāt think a part of SKG is making sure all different patch versions of a game are available and playable, once the devs end support for a game.
BTW Iām not against SKG, Iāve signed the petition, but when people say this would keep companies from selling the game forever, kill yearly installments of some franchise, or would āforceā devs to make old version of their favorite game available, thatās not what SKG wants to do.
It was Nicolae ČtefÄnuČÄ from the GreensāEuropean Free Alliance which was always going to be one of the political groups more likely to support this initiative.
We need to convince MEPs in the PES and EPP to really get a directive approved.
Nice. The movie industry must be shitting themselves if this goes through. They are next.
I donāt think this changes anything for movies unless thereās somewhere you can ābuyā a copy of a movie but they donāt let you download an offline copy. If they ārentā you the movie or you āsubscribeā to a streaming service, none of this applies.
I know the option for buying movies exist. You can do it on Apple Store. You can download offline, but only into their own ecosystem.
That would be a case, where you are forced to let them download out of Apple Store.
But itās more realistic, that they just remove that option, than letting people download it out of their shop.