entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
on 11 May 19:57
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Oh no, not spoilers for the plot of Doom. Now nobody will want to play it /s
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 May 20:05
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From what I understand it is actually the most plot heavy Doom to date, so some people might actually care.
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
on 11 May 20:08
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I mean, maybe. Doom 3 was pretty plot-driven too, but yeah. I guess my point is that the series is really all about fun gameplay.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 May 20:14
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I wholeheartedly agree… but then I think getting upset about spoilers is silly in general. If a plot point or piece of information wrecks a book/film/television show/video game for you, odds are it wasn’t a very quality one anyway.
Still, I try to respect that I’m deeply in the minority in that opinion.
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
on 11 May 20:19
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There are certain stories where a good amount of the first-time enjoyment is trying to guess the outcome/twist, like murder mysteries. IMO it really depends on the story structure.
BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone
on 11 May 23:40
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Part of my enjoyment is not necessarily knowing what is coming next so that I can experience it for myself. Spoilers won’t completely ruin something for me, but it is taking something away from the experience.
Also, to everyone out there, just tag the spoilers so people can make up their own mind what they read. It takes a bare minimum of effort to do so. It’s akin to holding the door open for someone behind you, it’s not going to be the end of the world if you don’t, but it can make someone’s day a fraction better if you do.
spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 12 May 02:50
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I mostly agree, but then there are pieces of media like Memento where spoiling it changes how you watch the movie. Because you’re likely going to be looking for how they put the movie together to build up to that reveal at the end.
I mean, the new ones do actually have a story. With dialogue and everything. Though I have to agree with Carmack when he said “a story in a video game is as important as a story in a porno.”
DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org
on 12 May 03:50
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Glad it’s not just me that thinks there’s too much exposition in games that don’t need it e.g., Doom. The good writers understand the medium and the story unfolds through play but the bad ones make you read walls of text. If I wanted so many words I’d read a book.
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
on 12 May 04:17
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For real. Digital Choose Your Own Adventure type books are fun if that’s what you’re trying to buy, but Doom is about gameplay
That id software is now owned by Microsoft pisses me off way more than it should. I was already iffy when they were acquired by Zenimax.
And there’s literally no one left of the original crew at this point.
I think I’m done with Doom, Wolfenstein and all that.
Rant over and sorry. It all just dawned on me when I saw the post.
theangriestbird@beehaw.org
on 12 May 02:19
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it sucks that half of my favorite studios are now owned by a company that makes it’s money on literally killing people. i want to support the devs for the amazing games that they made but i don’t want my money supporting that heinous shit.
You can decide to be unhappy (or not). The old games will not be stolen from you, and all complains aside, there are far more good games on the market than 20 years ago.
I know that and I’m happy that there is so much to choose from these days, simply because distribution isn’t a big issue anymore. The indie scene has never been in a better place.
It’s a nostalgia thing. Plus, I’m against the whole “exclusivity” thing. And a bunch of other reasons, but it hardly matters.
Sometimes you just need to vent your disappointment, you know?
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Oh no, not spoilers for the plot of Doom. Now nobody will want to play it /s
From what I understand it is actually the most plot heavy Doom to date, so some people might actually care.
I mean, maybe. Doom 3 was pretty plot-driven too, but yeah. I guess my point is that the series is really all about fun gameplay.
I wholeheartedly agree… but then I think getting upset about spoilers is silly in general. If a plot point or piece of information wrecks a book/film/television show/video game for you, odds are it wasn’t a very quality one anyway.
Still, I try to respect that I’m deeply in the minority in that opinion.
There are certain stories where a good amount of the first-time enjoyment is trying to guess the outcome/twist, like murder mysteries. IMO it really depends on the story structure.
Part of my enjoyment is not necessarily knowing what is coming next so that I can experience it for myself. Spoilers won’t completely ruin something for me, but it is taking something away from the experience.
Also, to everyone out there, just tag the spoilers so people can make up their own mind what they read. It takes a bare minimum of effort to do so. It’s akin to holding the door open for someone behind you, it’s not going to be the end of the world if you don’t, but it can make someone’s day a fraction better if you do.
I mostly agree, but then there are pieces of media like Memento where spoiling it changes how you watch the movie. Because you’re likely going to be looking for how they put the movie together to build up to that reveal at the end.
Hey guys, I think I saw some things that have, like, fangs and horns and stuff. Do you… Do you think there might be demons? In a DOOM game?
I need to know the origins of the BFG.
I mean, the new ones do actually have a story. With dialogue and everything. Though I have to agree with Carmack when he said “a story in a video game is as important as a story in a porno.”
Glad it’s not just me that thinks there’s too much exposition in games that don’t need it e.g., Doom. The good writers understand the medium and the story unfolds through play but the bad ones make you read walls of text. If I wanted so many words I’d read a book.
For real. Digital Choose Your Own Adventure type books are fun if that’s what you’re trying to buy, but Doom is about gameplay
Completely unrelated.
That id software is now owned by Microsoft pisses me off way more than it should. I was already iffy when they were acquired by Zenimax.
And there’s literally no one left of the original crew at this point.
I think I’m done with Doom, Wolfenstein and all that.
Rant over and sorry. It all just dawned on me when I saw the post.
it sucks that half of my favorite studios are now owned by a company that makes it’s money on literally killing people. i want to support the devs for the amazing games that they made but i don’t want my money supporting that heinous shit.
You can decide to be unhappy (or not). The old games will not be stolen from you, and all complains aside, there are far more good games on the market than 20 years ago.
I know that and I’m happy that there is so much to choose from these days, simply because distribution isn’t a big issue anymore. The indie scene has never been in a better place.
It’s a nostalgia thing. Plus, I’m against the whole “exclusivity” thing. And a bunch of other reasons, but it hardly matters.
Sometimes you just need to vent your disappointment, you know?
What spoiler? You rip and tear until it’s done.