Introducing Fedora Atomic Desktops - Fedora Magazine (fedoramagazine.org)
from joojmachine@lemmy.ml to linux@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 12:43
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 12:53 next collapse

Good that these finally have a unified name now, rather than people just being expected to know that Fedora + [obscure mineral you probably haven’t heard of] means immutable, plus having no idea of what mineral corresponds to what DE.

Silverblue and Kinoite are cool names, but really they should be renamed to Fedora Gnome (or Workstation, to line up with their standard desktop naming) Atomic, and Fedora Plasma Atomic, like they’ve done with Onyx >> Budgie Atomic

I understand why they wouldn’t want to suddenly change the branding of existing projects though.

Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 23:08 collapse

I understand why they wouldn’t want to suddenly change the branding of existing projects though.

I’m not sure if I agree, I feel like the long term damage of keeping the names is greater than changing them now to Fedora Plasma Atomic (Formerly Kinoite) / Fedora Atomic Workstation (Formerly Silverblue). Leaving them as is, is just going to create more confusion in the future to new users who won’t immediately understand why the naming convention is different for the other spins and will create more confusion for documentation / support threads online.

Blisterexe@lemmy.zip on 09 Feb 2024 13:37 next collapse

I think that atomic is a way better name than immutable imo

Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 23:05 collapse

I feel that I am 50:50 on it, immutable at least conveyed more information about what it is while Atomic feels a lot more “buzz-word-y” and does not convey as well what it means. Regardless, I’d say the bigger issue is keeping the old Silverblue & Kinoite names, they really should change them even if it means having a ~2 year period of having “Formerly Silverblue / Kinoite”.

ChristianWS@lemmy.eco.br on 09 Feb 2024 23:58 next collapse

Issue is that Immutable also conveyed a different type of information. When I first heard of it, I genuinely thought it was something like DeepFreeze for Windows

technojamin@lemmy.world on 10 Feb 2024 02:52 collapse

Are you familiar with the concept of “atomicity” in relation to database systems? It’s actually a very appropriate term, and the article touches on its use over “immutable”.

Scio@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 13:48 next collapse

I was kinda warming up to the totally unintended slightly inconsistent mineral based naming scheme tbh. But then, hadn't fully...

markstos@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 14:00 next collapse

I tried Fedora Sway Atomic last week. It didn’t go well.

urbanists.social/@markstos/111874604874920740

giddy@aussie.zone on 09 Feb 2024 14:19 collapse

Yeah I had a similar experience when logging on to Sway - I had no clue what to do. Did you ever figure out how to bring up a menu or launcher? All I could do after googling was launch a terminal

Hule@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 20:46 collapse

Sway cheatsheet

But I went back to Plasma…

giddy@aussie.zone on 10 Feb 2024 03:51 collapse

Thanks for that. Now that I know the launcher shortcut I will give it another go

giddy@aussie.zone on 09 Feb 2024 14:16 collapse

I’m running Onyx (sorry… Fedora Budgie Atomic) on my Thinkpad and love it. Last night I decided to give Sway a shot and, when I was done with that, rolled back to Budgie without any of the cruft of installing additional DE’s alongside each other.

joojmachine@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 15:03 collapse

Right? This is one of the main reasons I love Silverblue so much: every time I wanted to test something out, it’s as quick and easy as it gets.