What have been your costliest mistakes in using Linux?
from kiol@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 02 Jun 20:42
https://lemmy.world/post/30671911
from kiol@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 02 Jun 20:42
https://lemmy.world/post/30671911
For me it is not recording credentials with the assumption I would simply remember them later, while having every opportunity to archive them before eventually forgetting. Also, not keeping detailed enough notes & photos of exactly how my hardware is attached.
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That is a process fail, not a Linux fail. It wouldn’t matter if it was Linux or absolutely anything else.
Sure, but I wanted to ask fellow Linux users
Your title is ‘…in using Linux’. My point is simply it has nothing to do with Linux, and it’s also posted in the Linux sub.
I installed some library from sources on my working laptop, and it stopped booting lol. Had to change my laptop for the newer Thinkpad, because you cannot insert into working devices any flash drives to boot from and fix the system. It hasn’t cost me anything, but was pretty funny
Probably trying to share a Stream drive between Linux and Windows. Trying to run games from NTFS just didn’t work and resulted in all kinds of weird issues. I was close to giving up on Linux but after I switched to an ext3 partition things just started working :|
Let me count the ways:
I could go on, but my memory tends to erase the painful memories.
One time I’ve lost around 200gb of data, by accidentally removing a folder, instead of its symlink. Didn’t have backups either, but it wasn’t anything I couldn’t get again
back around 2013 I was working on a school project, did the ol’ get out my laptop without putting on my glasses bit, and ran “rm -rf” on the wrong folder because the characters sorta looked similar to my farsighted eyes.
Since I didn’t make backups, that was a few weeks of work down the drain.
I’ve been running Linux since 2011, starting with our data recovery and antivirus scanning system at the computer repair shop I was working for at the time.
Even my boss didn’t understand why I wanted to install Linux. Keep in mind, this is back when the TDSS/Alureon rootkit was going around on Windows systems.
I explained it like it was, that if our main backup/antivirus system was running the same OS as the infected computers coming in, then it was only a matter of time before our main system got infected.
So, he accepted my advice and let me set everything up. More or less just the bare basics really, smartmontools, gparted, firefox, google earth (just because), and a few other relevant programs to help with our daily tasks.
Then, one day when I was off work, a new employee decided to install some plugin into Firefox to share bookmarks and stuff across different devices…
Somehow, he borked the main tech user account, it wouldn’t even login to the user interface anymore :(
I had to spend a few hours, with the skeptical boss over my shoulder, waiting to see if I could get the system back running right again.
And so I did, while learning lots of new things at the same time. When I learned the hotkeys to switch to other terminal sessions, then I figured out how to create a new account, erase the old account, and get logged back in and running.
The customer data backup drive was separate and detached through all that, so customer data was safe the whole time.
The boss almost said fuckit, reinstall Windows, but I was persistent. And that system helped salvage over 200 systems with the TDSS rootkit, which would have almost certainly doomed our backup system if it was running Windows.
I told that new guy to never fuck with my operating system setup or configuration again, at least not before consulting me and getting approval or even assistance first.
When you got a bare minimum of the past 100 customers’ data backed up and virus checked, you don’t dick around with the main backup system.
So, honestly, I can’t think of a single truly costly mistake that Linux has cost me…
As far as that other employee that messed it up for a bit, well I dunno, it wasn’t too long after that the boss fired him…
Once I had to buy a new keyboard for all the goddamn terminal typing I had to do
I installed Ubuntu back when that was popular, and insisted on having all the graphical bling, like 3d cube that would spin to change desktops. And windows that shook like jello when you moved them.
Of course all this messing around by an amateur did nothing for stability and after 3 or 4 frustrating issues I went back to Windows.
I can’t even function without the Compiz 3D cube anymore, it makes it super easy and visually intuitive to switch desktops. Very handy for someone running 4 virtual machines simultaneously…
Why even have any effects at all? They are distracting as shit.
Sure, some of the effects are basically useless eye candy, but the 3D Cube thing is a non-intrusive, yet very intuitive way of switching desktops. The 3D Cube doesn’t even activate until you use a hotkey combination plus the mouse. It’s almost like having a virtual KVM switch if you’re running virtual machines.
To each their own, but you might actually like the 3D Cube and possibly some other Compiz features once you see how they work and what they offer…
youtube.com/watch?v=W8UKuDidNQg
Not costly in anything but time, but I tried to crossgrade an i386 server to x86_64. Eventually it got broken enough that I restored from a backup and just rebuilt a new server from scratch in a VM to replace it.
My payroll company came out with a be version that won’t work in Linux. They wouldn’t accommodate me and I was too deep into their ecosystem to change companies so I ended up having to buy a Windows license so I could run a virtual machine every time I had to do payroll.
Edit: My mistake was getting too dependent on a company that doesn’t care about Linux users.
Spending money on a crowdfunded Linux device.
Fuck you fxtec
I got burned by them too. Still never got a Pro1x or my money back.
Yup same here
Wow. I did not know. And was actually wondering about them. Looked nice compared to the PinePhone…
I feel like it would be but I never got it
When I first installed linux I set up a dualboot because I still had data on windows. A week passes, I get cocky, I customize the grub loader, somehow nuked the windows install in the process because (unbeknownst to me, I was installing a new bootloader on the linux drive) I ran some commands off the stack exchange. When I went to my windows drive the C part was gone-gone, I had documents on that C drive. Said to myslef “I guess I have a free drive now” and never looked back.
Those documents were important, no backups. Time, nerves and money consuming to get them again.
I once reset a computer and forgot I had a Bitcoin wallet on it. So I reset the drive and forgot to keep the home partition.
It had multiple Bitcoin back when it was less than 10ish. Mined with a bunch of people for the fun of it. Thought nothing of it until recently lol. That hard drive died a long time ago and is in some dump somewhere. I guess I helped keep the price for everyone else. So your welcome?
Oh god!
I see I’m not the only one with bitcoin woes and Linux lol.
dd if=fedora.iso of=my ssd instead of flash drive :’(
Always triple check dd
Now you know why it’s called the Disk Destroyer.
Before using dd, I prefer to run lsblk first so that I can see what each disk is called. Before pressing enter, I also double check the names with the lsblk output.
TIL about using
lsblk
instead of just reading through the output ofjournalctl
to find the disk and partitions. Thanks!Glad I could help! This command is just so much nicer.
i love the raspberry pi imager for that reason. i don’t want no balena etcher stealing my data, but a gui is very convenient for flashing isos, so raspi imager it is! (works for any iso you want)
just run lsblk before dd
distrohopping. timewaster.
Buying a Framework 16. Never again.
Elaborate?
I am also curious
me too
Mostly USB unreliability. But also build quality.
Why? If nothing else, don’t they hold their value really well?
Upgrade my PC. I put new parts in but I dont notice any real gains because my system was already running well.
My most costly mistake was probably installing gentoo on a Chromebook. That took so long and was both fun and extremely frustrating. It was working but now I’m getting these weird drive errors because the entire thing is loaded on an SD to avoid using the Chromebooks 15gb internal storage.
None, using Linux never been a mistake, every mishaps is a learning process
Yep no mistake, I TOTALLY MEANT TO DO THAT !
Bluetooth didn’t work on my laptop. Got new bluetooth card (exact same type). Bluetooth still didn’t work.
Turns out:
Hardware whitelist is unholy
Me, finding out this exists after buying a used sff HP pc and wondering why it won’t display out to any new monitor unless I unplug and plug the power cord: 💀
Luckily (or not so luckily), I was able to turn off the HP “security feature” from the bios. The pc came from a former school fleet of sff pcs
I wasted a few hours, trying to make some flatpak apps do as I wanted, before I understood how flatpaks works, and why they are not always a good solution.
I bought a National Instrument’s data acquisition card (PCIe-6535B) not knowing that National Instruments is not very Linux-friendly and I was not able to get it working. At least it was a used card so I did not pay to much for it, but I learned my lesson not to assume compatibility.
Once I also used ‘rm -rvf *’ from my home directory while SSH’d into a supercomputer (I made a syntax error when trying to cd into the folder that I actually wanted to delete). I was able to get my data restored from a backup, but sending that e-mail was a bit embarrassing 😆
I tried to enroll secure boot without understanding what I’m doing. I locked myself out of the motherboard.
Also when you accidentally create a directory called ‘~’ the command
rm -r ~
is not the right one…I tried to enroll secure boot without understanding what I’m doing. I locked myself out of the motherboard.
Also when you accidentally create a directory called ‘~’ the command
rm -r ~
is not the right one…Ughh ! That one is nasty !
I feel like you can be a long time linux user and muscle memory can get you with the
rm -rf ~
…Using
topgrade
without realizing what I was doing. Seemed okay for a few days until my headphones suddenly jacked to 1000 and began some sort of alarm-like buzzing. Thankfully they were not on my head, because it was so loud my gf and I thought there was some sort of fire alarm going off. This was on EndeavourOS.I tried
topgrade
again, not knowing that the app was what had done it. This time on vanilla Arch. I was not so fortunate this round and I took the sound full blast into my earholes. I reacted in milliseconds and Hulk-smash threw them halfway across the room. No lasting damage since I was so quick, but fuck me wearing headphones is more dangerous than I thought.Luckily I’ve learned from past mistakes and made Timeshift restore points before every update. I reverted to before the
topgrade
changes and my distro has still been holding strong since then. I think I’ll make my own alias for full upgrade and call itupdawg
.Not Linux, but OpenBSD. I got a sun ultra 5 for free so I decided to make a router out of it. After some research OpenBSD looked like the best option. I bought a pf book and started writing configs. After about a week I had a really nice router that did exactly what I asked it. This was back in the early days of xbox360 so getting all of the port forwarding right was kind of a pain since we had three of them connected in our apartment along with all of the computers. Then the harddrive crashed and I hadn’t made any backups. That was a lot of work down the drain.
I’m actually amazed I haven’t had any costly mistakes yet considering I’m the kind of person to say “it’s just dd, what’s the worst that can happen? it’ll be fine no worries”. Since I’ve installed Arch a year ago I’ve been constantly expecting to catastrophically break something… and my system is still running, somehow. It’s very perplexing.
You do backup important data, right?
Right… sure… erm… of course I do, obviously 😅
Actually I always mean to do it but I keep forgetting… Recently I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’ll never remembering to do it so I’ve been trying to set up an auto-sync to my NAS with rsync and inotifywait so I won’t have to ever think about backups again… But I really suck at coding so it’s not going too well 😅
DE hopping/Switching to a new Distro without testing it in a VM
I don’t think I’ve ever lost more time than I’ve gained in knowledge from the mistakes, if that makes any sense.
Never lost any money with linux.
Sometimes I forget why I did something and undo it. Then, when I remember, I hope I made a text file documenting what I did to begin with. If not, back to search.
When installing arch, I wanted to kill my old drive. So 2 times in a row, I forgot to look up my drives Name, and proceeded to wipe my USB stick with /dev/random. 2 times.
Hibernating my computer and then forgetting about it and booting into a different OS (Fedora Silverblue) on the same partition (BTRFS subvolume stuff). AND THEN TRYING TO RESUME THE HIBERNATED OS (Arch btw).
my filesystem was pretty much unrecoverable and it was my fault
My theory for what happened is:
There might have been some delayed writes on Arch, but that’s no the main issue.
When booting into Fedora and running an update, the state of the filesystem changed to the point that when resuming Arch, it put the filesystem into an extremely inconsistent state (where the Arch system might have cached (meta)data that was changed since hibernation).
Also, to clarify, I still managed to recover my data, but the FS was not mountable and btrfsck couldn’t do shit. And I’m still using that Arch install to this day. XDDD
Good to know
Bought a Samsung mini laser printer and found that it is Windows only. I gave it to a neighbour.
This is a bit late since you’ve already gotten rid of it but there IS s Samsung unified Linux driver for printers.
It always involves
sudo rm -rf *
In my case it didn’t even need sudo to ruin my day. I wanted to delete a temporary directory in home by typing
rm -r ~/ tmp
. See how a space snuck in between the slash and tmp? Yeah, great day that was.I tried too many distros.
Encrypting a drive with Linux, then encrypting a VM within Linux with my Bitcoin wallet information in it, which I was gifted 5 bitcoin before it was popular and just forgot about it. I was 13 at the time and didn’t know what I was doing. Lost all my passwords, or I might have even just wiped my entire drive. Got a pile of hard drives to go through and see which one has Linux on it, but that’s only the first step.