What have been your costliest mistakes in using Linux?
from kiol@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 02 Jun 20:42
https://lemmy.world/post/30671911

For me it is not recording credentials with the assumption I would simply remember them later, while having every opportunity to archive them before eventually forgetting. Also, not keeping detailed enough notes & photos of exactly how my hardware is attached.

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just_another_person@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 20:46 next collapse

That is a process fail, not a Linux fail. It wouldn’t matter if it was Linux or absolutely anything else.

kiol@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 21:35 collapse

Sure, but I wanted to ask fellow Linux users

just_another_person@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 22:04 collapse

Your title is ‘…in using Linux’. My point is simply it has nothing to do with Linux, and it’s also posted in the Linux sub.

froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Jun 21:14 next collapse

I installed some library from sources on my working laptop, and it stopped booting lol. Had to change my laptop for the newer Thinkpad, because you cannot insert into working devices any flash drives to boot from and fix the system. It hasn’t cost me anything, but was pretty funny

stuner@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 21:16 next collapse

Probably trying to share a Stream drive between Linux and Windows. Trying to run games from NTFS just didn’t work and resulted in all kinds of weird issues. I was close to giving up on Linux but after I switched to an ext3 partition things just started working :|

Quazatron@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 21:24 next collapse

Let me count the ways:

  • Edited /etc/sudoers with vi instead of visudo.
  • The classic rm -fr /
  • The typical chown myuser: / -R
  • Removed the bootloader dunno why
  • Some shenanigans involving dd and the wrong device

I could go on, but my memory tends to erase the painful memories.

dinckelman@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 21:25 next collapse

One time I’ve lost around 200gb of data, by accidentally removing a folder, instead of its symlink. Didn’t have backups either, but it wasn’t anything I couldn’t get again

AprilShowers@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Jun 21:30 next collapse

back around 2013 I was working on a school project, did the ol’ get out my laptop without putting on my glasses bit, and ran “rm -rf” on the wrong folder because the characters sorta looked similar to my farsighted eyes.

Since I didn’t make backups, that was a few weeks of work down the drain.

over_clox@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 21:55 next collapse

I’ve been running Linux since 2011, starting with our data recovery and antivirus scanning system at the computer repair shop I was working for at the time.

Even my boss didn’t understand why I wanted to install Linux. Keep in mind, this is back when the TDSS/Alureon rootkit was going around on Windows systems.

I explained it like it was, that if our main backup/antivirus system was running the same OS as the infected computers coming in, then it was only a matter of time before our main system got infected.

So, he accepted my advice and let me set everything up. More or less just the bare basics really, smartmontools, gparted, firefox, google earth (just because), and a few other relevant programs to help with our daily tasks.

Then, one day when I was off work, a new employee decided to install some plugin into Firefox to share bookmarks and stuff across different devices…

Somehow, he borked the main tech user account, it wouldn’t even login to the user interface anymore :(

I had to spend a few hours, with the skeptical boss over my shoulder, waiting to see if I could get the system back running right again.

And so I did, while learning lots of new things at the same time. When I learned the hotkeys to switch to other terminal sessions, then I figured out how to create a new account, erase the old account, and get logged back in and running.

The customer data backup drive was separate and detached through all that, so customer data was safe the whole time.

The boss almost said fuckit, reinstall Windows, but I was persistent. And that system helped salvage over 200 systems with the TDSS rootkit, which would have almost certainly doomed our backup system if it was running Windows.

I told that new guy to never fuck with my operating system setup or configuration again, at least not before consulting me and getting approval or even assistance first.

When you got a bare minimum of the past 100 customers’ data backed up and virus checked, you don’t dick around with the main backup system.

So, honestly, I can’t think of a single truly costly mistake that Linux has cost me

As far as that other employee that messed it up for a bit, well I dunno, it wasn’t too long after that the boss fired him…

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 02 Jun 22:17 next collapse

Once I had to buy a new keyboard for all the goddamn terminal typing I had to do

yesman@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 22:30 next collapse

I installed Ubuntu back when that was popular, and insisted on having all the graphical bling, like 3d cube that would spin to change desktops. And windows that shook like jello when you moved them.

Of course all this messing around by an amateur did nothing for stability and after 3 or 4 frustrating issues I went back to Windows.

over_clox@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 22:39 collapse

I can’t even function without the Compiz 3D cube anymore, it makes it super easy and visually intuitive to switch desktops. Very handy for someone running 4 virtual machines simultaneously…

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 12:08 collapse

Why even have any effects at all? They are distracting as shit.

over_clox@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 17:34 collapse

Sure, some of the effects are basically useless eye candy, but the 3D Cube thing is a non-intrusive, yet very intuitive way of switching desktops. The 3D Cube doesn’t even activate until you use a hotkey combination plus the mouse. It’s almost like having a virtual KVM switch if you’re running virtual machines.

To each their own, but you might actually like the 3D Cube and possibly some other Compiz features once you see how they work and what they offer…

youtube.com/watch?v=W8UKuDidNQg

savvywolf@pawb.social on 02 Jun 22:45 next collapse

Not costly in anything but time, but I tried to crossgrade an i386 server to x86_64. Eventually it got broken enough that I restored from a backup and just rebuilt a new server from scratch in a VM to replace it.

52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org on 02 Jun 22:46 next collapse

My payroll company came out with a be version that won’t work in Linux. They wouldn’t accommodate me and I was too deep into their ecosystem to change companies so I ended up having to buy a Windows license so I could run a virtual machine every time I had to do payroll.

Edit: My mistake was getting too dependent on a company that doesn’t care about Linux users.

secret300@lemmy.sdf.org on 02 Jun 23:39 next collapse

Spending money on a crowdfunded Linux device.

Fuck you fxtec

Atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 01:07 next collapse

I got burned by them too. Still never got a Pro1x or my money back.

secret300@lemmy.sdf.org on 03 Jun 01:46 collapse

Yup same here

schmurian@lsmu.schmurian.xyz on 03 Jun 10:09 collapse

Wow. I did not know. And was actually wondering about them. Looked nice compared to the PinePhone…

secret300@lemmy.sdf.org on 03 Jun 16:05 collapse

I feel like it would be but I never got it

chaoticnumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Jun 23:51 next collapse

When I first installed linux I set up a dualboot because I still had data on windows. A week passes, I get cocky, I customize the grub loader, somehow nuked the windows install in the process because (unbeknownst to me, I was installing a new bootloader on the linux drive) I ran some commands off the stack exchange. When I went to my windows drive the C part was gone-gone, I had documents on that C drive. Said to myslef “I guess I have a free drive now” and never looked back.

Those documents were important, no backups. Time, nerves and money consuming to get them again.

mesamunefire@piefed.social on 03 Jun 01:13 next collapse

I once reset a computer and forgot I had a Bitcoin wallet on it. So I reset the drive and forgot to keep the home partition.

It had multiple Bitcoin back when it was less than 10ish. Mined with a bunch of people for the fun of it. Thought nothing of it until recently lol. That hard drive died a long time ago and is in some dump somewhere. I guess I helped keep the price for everyone else. So your welcome?

swelter_spark@reddthat.com on 03 Jun 20:07 next collapse

Oh god!

c10r0x@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 15:33 collapse

I see I’m not the only one with bitcoin woes and Linux lol.

cevn@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 01:20 next collapse

dd if=fedora.iso of=my ssd instead of flash drive :’(

BunnyKnuckles@startrek.website on 03 Jun 02:51 next collapse

Always triple check dd

chaosCruiser@futurology.today on 03 Jun 05:06 next collapse

Now you know why it’s called the Disk Destroyer.

Before using dd, I prefer to run lsblk first so that I can see what each disk is called. Before pressing enter, I also double check the names with the lsblk output.

danielquinn@lemmy.ca on 03 Jun 09:49 collapse

TIL about using lsblk instead of just reading through the output of journalctl to find the disk and partitions. Thanks!

chaosCruiser@futurology.today on 03 Jun 10:21 collapse

Glad I could help! This command is just so much nicer.

TerHu@lemm.ee on 03 Jun 08:55 collapse

i love the raspberry pi imager for that reason. i don’t want no balena etcher stealing my data, but a gui is very convenient for flashing isos, so raspi imager it is! (works for any iso you want)

737@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 03 Jun 21:05 collapse

just run lsblk before dd

Goten@piefed.social on 03 Jun 02:30 next collapse

distrohopping. timewaster.

noxypaws@pawb.social on 03 Jun 02:54 next collapse

Buying a Framework 16. Never again.

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 03 Jun 03:02 next collapse

Elaborate?

Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 03:36 next collapse

I am also curious

TerHu@lemm.ee on 03 Jun 09:06 collapse

me too

noxypaws@pawb.social on 03 Jun 15:49 collapse

Mostly USB unreliability. But also build quality.

kiol@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 17:20 collapse

Why? If nothing else, don’t they hold their value really well?

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 03 Jun 04:34 next collapse

Upgrade my PC. I put new parts in but I dont notice any real gains because my system was already running well.

My most costly mistake was probably installing gentoo on a Chromebook. That took so long and was both fun and extremely frustrating. It was working but now I’m getting these weird drive errors because the entire thing is loaded on an SD to avoid using the Chromebooks 15gb internal storage.

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 03 Jun 04:44 next collapse

None, using Linux never been a mistake, every mishaps is a learning process

phantomwise@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 13:18 collapse

Yep no mistake, I TOTALLY MEANT TO DO THAT !

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 05:23 next collapse

Bluetooth didn’t work on my laptop. Got new bluetooth card (exact same type). Bluetooth still didn’t work.

Turns out:

  1. The specific card doesn’t support Linux.
  2. My laptop has a hardware whitelist in the BIOS that prevents me from installing any other card.
  3. My headphones don’t support USB bluetooth.
hangonasecond@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 06:53 collapse

Hardware whitelist is unholy

BlindFrog@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 07:34 collapse

Me, finding out this exists after buying a used sff HP pc and wondering why it won’t display out to any new monitor unless I unplug and plug the power cord: 💀

Luckily (or not so luckily), I was able to turn off the HP “security feature” from the bios. The pc came from a former school fleet of sff pcs

Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 06:09 next collapse

I wasted a few hours, trying to make some flatpak apps do as I wanted, before I understood how flatpaks works, and why they are not always a good solution.

Sal@mander.xyz on 03 Jun 06:33 next collapse

I bought a National Instrument’s data acquisition card (PCIe-6535B) not knowing that National Instruments is not very Linux-friendly and I was not able to get it working. At least it was a used card so I did not pay to much for it, but I learned my lesson not to assume compatibility.

Once I also used ‘rm -rvf *’ from my home directory while SSH’d into a supercomputer (I made a syntax error when trying to cd into the folder that I actually wanted to delete). I was able to get my data restored from a backup, but sending that e-mail was a bit embarrassing 😆

responsible_sith@programming.dev on 03 Jun 06:48 next collapse

I tried to enroll secure boot without understanding what I’m doing. I locked myself out of the motherboard.

Also when you accidentally create a directory called ‘~’ the command rm -r ~ is not the right one…

responsible_sith@programming.dev on 03 Jun 06:49 next collapse

I tried to enroll secure boot without understanding what I’m doing. I locked myself out of the motherboard.

Also when you accidentally create a directory called ‘~’ the command rm -r ~ is not the right one…

N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 08:17 next collapse

Also when you accidentally create a directory called ‘~’ the command rm -r ~ is not the right one…

Ughh ! That one is nasty !

shynoise@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 17:29 collapse

I feel like you can be a long time linux user and muscle memory can get you with the rm -rf ~

Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Jun 09:09 next collapse

Using topgrade without realizing what I was doing. Seemed okay for a few days until my headphones suddenly jacked to 1000 and began some sort of alarm-like buzzing. Thankfully they were not on my head, because it was so loud my gf and I thought there was some sort of fire alarm going off. This was on EndeavourOS.

I tried topgrade again, not knowing that the app was what had done it. This time on vanilla Arch. I was not so fortunate this round and I took the sound full blast into my earholes. I reacted in milliseconds and Hulk-smash threw them halfway across the room. No lasting damage since I was so quick, but fuck me wearing headphones is more dangerous than I thought.

Luckily I’ve learned from past mistakes and made Timeshift restore points before every update. I reverted to before the topgrade changes and my distro has still been holding strong since then. I think I’ll make my own alias for full upgrade and call it updawg.

A7thStone@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 09:36 next collapse

Not Linux, but OpenBSD. I got a sun ultra 5 for free so I decided to make a router out of it. After some research OpenBSD looked like the best option. I bought a pf book and started writing configs. After about a week I had a really nice router that did exactly what I asked it. This was back in the early days of xbox360 so getting all of the port forwarding right was kind of a pain since we had three of them connected in our apartment along with all of the computers. Then the harddrive crashed and I hadn’t made any backups. That was a lot of work down the drain.

phantomwise@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 13:16 next collapse

I’m actually amazed I haven’t had any costly mistakes yet considering I’m the kind of person to say “it’s just dd, what’s the worst that can happen? it’ll be fine no worries”. Since I’ve installed Arch a year ago I’ve been constantly expecting to catastrophically break something… and my system is still running, somehow. It’s very perplexing.

InnerScientist@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 04:58 collapse

You do backup important data, right?

phantomwise@lemmy.ml on 04 Jun 11:58 collapse

Right… sure… erm… of course I do, obviously 😅

Actually I always mean to do it but I keep forgetting… Recently I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’ll never remembering to do it so I’ve been trying to set up an auto-sync to my NAS with rsync and inotifywait so I won’t have to ever think about backups again… But I really suck at coding so it’s not going too well 😅

Mwa@lemm.ee on 03 Jun 15:58 next collapse

DE hopping/Switching to a new Distro without testing it in a VM

steeznson@lemmy.world on 03 Jun 16:54 next collapse

I don’t think I’ve ever lost more time than I’ve gained in knowledge from the mistakes, if that makes any sense.

Never lost any money with linux.

swelter_spark@reddthat.com on 03 Jun 20:05 next collapse

Sometimes I forget why I did something and undo it. Then, when I remember, I hope I made a text file documenting what I did to begin with. If not, back to search.

Luffy879@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 20:36 next collapse

When installing arch, I wanted to kill my old drive. So 2 times in a row, I forgot to look up my drives Name, and proceeded to wipe my USB stick with /dev/random. 2 times.

fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 03 Jun 20:44 next collapse

Hibernating my computer and then forgetting about it and booting into a different OS (Fedora Silverblue) on the same partition (BTRFS subvolume stuff). AND THEN TRYING TO RESUME THE HIBERNATED OS (Arch btw).

my filesystem was pretty much unrecoverable and it was my fault

fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 03 Jun 20:54 next collapse

My theory for what happened is:

There might have been some delayed writes on Arch, but that’s no the main issue.

When booting into Fedora and running an update, the state of the filesystem changed to the point that when resuming Arch, it put the filesystem into an extremely inconsistent state (where the Arch system might have cached (meta)data that was changed since hibernation).

Also, to clarify, I still managed to recover my data, but the FS was not mountable and btrfsck couldn’t do shit. And I’m still using that Arch install to this day. XDDD

InnerScientist@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 04:57 collapse

Good to know

solrize@lemmy.ml on 03 Jun 21:10 next collapse

Bought a Samsung mini laser printer and found that it is Windows only. I gave it to a neighbour.

ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jun 15:39 collapse

This is a bit late since you’ve already gotten rid of it but there IS s Samsung unified Linux driver for printers.

nucleative@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 12:14 next collapse

It always involves

sudo rm -rf *

ackzsel@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 15:02 collapse

In my case it didn’t even need sudo to ruin my day. I wanted to delete a temporary directory in home by typing rm -r ~/ tmp. See how a space snuck in between the slash and tmp? Yeah, great day that was.

Drito@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jun 12:53 next collapse

I tried too many distros.

c10r0x@lemmy.world on 04 Jun 15:29 collapse

Encrypting a drive with Linux, then encrypting a VM within Linux with my Bitcoin wallet information in it, which I was gifted 5 bitcoin before it was popular and just forgot about it. I was 13 at the time and didn’t know what I was doing. Lost all my passwords, or I might have even just wiped my entire drive. Got a pile of hard drives to go through and see which one has Linux on it, but that’s only the first step.