Sinclair-Speccy@fedia.io
on 13 Jul 2024 04:41
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I should clarify this is a screenshot I uploaded to Gunkies.org for the Yggdrasil Linux page
buried_treasure@feddit.uk
on 13 Jul 2024 05:55
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Looking at that screenshot, even though I’ve been a very happy KDE user for many years now, I do kinda miss the days when many Xfree86 desktop environments were influenced more by NeXTStep than Windows.
rimu@piefed.social
on 13 Jul 2024 06:17
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Yeah, I long for window decorations and borders like that. Anyone know a good KDE 5 theme that does it?
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
on 13 Jul 2024 07:32
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There’s a very similar theme called Commonality
lodaket@lemmy.world
on 13 Jul 2024 15:43
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Thanks, I spent a couple of hours playing around with that. It didn't work quite right but still I've got some glorious retro ugliness going on. A mishmash of CDE, Windows 2000 icons and KDE 5, it's mental and I love it.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Jul 2024 07:12
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LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
on 22 Jul 2024 09:56
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Absolutely delightful, thankyou!
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 13 Jul 2024 17:07
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The Motif look, what we are looking at here, is driven by the same UI guidelines that early Windows and OS/2 followed. You will notice a lot of similarity between them.
ikidd@lemmy.world
on 13 Jul 2024 06:15
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I remember this. It was pretty cool at the time. I think it was the first Live CD I booted.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 13 Jul 2024 06:38
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Legendary icons for Home and Root.
I’d kill for a functional DE that looks like this. Currently using Chicago95
nyan@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Jul 2024 14:08
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TDE’s CDE window decoration style pretty much matches the screenshot. There’s also a matching widget style (Motif). I’d guess that the icon set exists Somewhere Out There On The Internet. So you can get this look if you want it badly enough to install a non-default DE that’s currently limited to X11.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 13 Jul 2024 15:14
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I’ve looked into CDE before but the support seems pretty poor compared to Chicago95
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
on 13 Jul 2024 14:13
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MonkderDritte@feddit.de
on 13 Jul 2024 12:11
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That’s cool and all but there’s no vintage community for that?
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
on 13 Jul 2024 12:40
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Vintage?? I had just started middle school, that was like five years ago...
Sinclair-Speccy@fedia.io
on 13 Jul 2024 13:18
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@MonkderDritte I mean this place’s rules say anything related to Linux so…
frankenswine@lemmy.world
on 13 Jul 2024 14:21
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c/UnixPorn
SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net
on 13 Jul 2024 15:12
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I saw this in a magazine and it was so cool looking. A few months later I got Linux on CD and never looked back. That 3D Motif/fvwm look was amazing.
Funny enough, my BIOS did not support booting from CD. I remember in DOS, I had to load MSCDEX from a floppy but I have no recollection on how I actually booted and installed Linux from CD.
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 13 Jul 2024 16:54
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Looks like FVWM2.
I just learned that OpenBSD still defaults to that look.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jul 2024 23:30
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Possibly from DOS. It’s a real-mode operating system.
Drito@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Jul 2024 17:39
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Is it possible to make it working on a today machine ? Even with a virtual machine ? Sorry for my ignorance.
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 13 Jul 2024 20:15
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It should work fine in a virtual machine. Just make sure you provide suitably ancient hardware like IDE storage and old ethernet cards. On something that old, I would only provide a single CPU. To be safe, I would also try installing with a low amount of RAM and then increase it later. Older kernels could not handle multi-processor or RAM above a certain size. I think I might start with 700 MB of RAM to do the install. That might sound like nothing but it probably runs in 8.
It is easy today in our era of resource richness to forget just how meager the hardware was when these distros were new.
A distro that old is going to require some fiddling to get XFree86 ( x11 ) up and running. It should be ok in a desktop VM but I have had problems with older versions of X in Proxmox in case you are using that.
I kind of want to go install this myself now. Or an old version of SLS ( pre-cursor to Slackware ). I ran them both at some point in my Linux journey but it has been a while.
What I really want to do is to make OCI containers from these old distros and try to run them in Distrobox on top of a modern kernel. Has somebody done that already? Really old versions of Red Hat ( not RHEL, Red Hat, < 6 ) would be cool too.
Sinclair-Speccy@fedia.io
on 14 Jul 2024 08:20
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LeFantome@programming.dev
on 14 Jul 2024 17:25
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Confirmed. The minimum requirements are a 386 with 8 MB of RAM and 100 MB of drive space. Incredible.
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 14 Jul 2024 17:33
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I just noticed that, in the screenshot, it is running in 86box. So, you know for sure it works there and 86box works great on modern machines ( Windows, Mac, and Linux ).
threaded - newest
I should clarify this is a screenshot I uploaded to Gunkies.org for the Yggdrasil Linux page
Looking at that screenshot, even though I’ve been a very happy KDE user for many years now, I do kinda miss the days when many Xfree86 desktop environments were influenced more by NeXTStep than Windows.
Yeah, I long for window decorations and borders like that. Anyone know a good KDE 5 theme that does it?
There’s a very similar theme called Commonality
Commonality and Irixium are great.
<img alt="Irixium Screenshot" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/63eb7cb6-e6d3-40b9-b1a1-6dd705bf1489.png">
<img alt="Commonality Screenshot" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8492a567-fd7a-4eaa-988a-23c8ce4aff3f.png">
Gorgeous. I need someone to pick up Cantata.
Thanks, I spent a couple of hours playing around with that. It didn't work quite right but still I've got some glorious retro ugliness going on. A mishmash of CDE, Windows 2000 icons and KDE 5, it's mental and I love it.
Screenshots please! That sounds brilliant!
Here you go!
Absolutely delightful, thankyou!
The Motif look, what we are looking at here, is driven by the same UI guidelines that early Windows and OS/2 followed. You will notice a lot of similarity between them.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Common_User_Access
I remember this. It was pretty cool at the time. I think it was the first Live CD I booted.
Legendary icons for Home and Root.
I’d kill for a functional DE that looks like this. Currently using Chicago95
TDE’s CDE window decoration style pretty much matches the screenshot. There’s also a matching widget style (Motif). I’d guess that the icon set exists Somewhere Out There On The Internet. So you can get this look if you want it badly enough to install a non-default DE that’s currently limited to X11.
I’ve looked into CDE before but the support seems pretty poor compared to Chicago95
What about Openlook? I guess it’s still working.
sourceforge.net/projects/openlook/
Just as I get everything all how I like it you make this comment, I look it up, god dammit i have my snapshots ready.
github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE
NsCDE is amazing it genuinely has like the most consistent look of any desktop I’ve used and it looks so good and works so well
I used an X-Terminal (i.e. a physical box) that had a desktop like that in 1994. I think it was HP but could have been SUN. Don’t remember.
If it was a real UNIX workstation, you were almost certainly using CDE ( Common Desktop Environment ).
sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/
sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
That’s cool and all but there’s no vintage community for that?
Vintage?? I had just started middle school, that was like five years ago...
@MonkderDritte I mean this place’s rules say anything related to Linux so…
c/UnixPorn
I saw this in a magazine and it was so cool looking. A few months later I got Linux on CD and never looked back. That 3D Motif/fvwm look was amazing.
Funny enough, my BIOS did not support booting from CD. I remember in DOS, I had to load MSCDEX from a floppy but I have no recollection on how I actually booted and installed Linux from CD.
Looks like FVWM2.
I just learned that OpenBSD still defaults to that look.
Possibly from DOS. It’s a real-mode operating system.
Is it possible to make it working on a today machine ? Even with a virtual machine ? Sorry for my ignorance.
It should work fine in a virtual machine. Just make sure you provide suitably ancient hardware like IDE storage and old ethernet cards. On something that old, I would only provide a single CPU. To be safe, I would also try installing with a low amount of RAM and then increase it later. Older kernels could not handle multi-processor or RAM above a certain size. I think I might start with 700 MB of RAM to do the install. That might sound like nothing but it probably runs in 8.
It is easy today in our era of resource richness to forget just how meager the hardware was when these distros were new.
A distro that old is going to require some fiddling to get XFree86 ( x11 ) up and running. It should be ok in a desktop VM but I have had problems with older versions of X in Proxmox in case you are using that.
I kind of want to go install this myself now. Or an old version of SLS ( pre-cursor to Slackware ). I ran them both at some point in my Linux journey but it has been a while.
What I really want to do is to make OCI containers from these old distros and try to run them in Distrobox on top of a modern kernel. Has somebody done that already? Really old versions of Red Hat ( not RHEL, Red Hat, < 6 ) would be cool too.
@LeFantome If you haven't gotten the iso files already, I got them here: https://pd.spuddy.org/yggdrasil.html
@Drito
Confirmed. The minimum requirements are a 386 with 8 MB of RAM and 100 MB of drive space. Incredible.
I just noticed that, in the screenshot, it is running in 86box. So, you know for sure it works there and 86box works great on modern machines ( Windows, Mac, and Linux ).
86box.net
I bought a book that had Yggdrasil in a CD that I used so I didn’t have to go into the university for the Unix labs.
I think that the entirety of the book, around 1,000 pages, was printed out man pages.
Looks treemendous