Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?
from KseniyaK@lemmy.ca to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Jul 2024 15:50
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from KseniyaK@lemmy.ca to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Jul 2024 15:50
https://lemmy.ca/post/24653703
I was thinking of getting a wifi card like that, but can’t seem to find any.
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Not very modern, but this card is also available on Novacustom Laptops
Use libre boot website’s info for reference. The Athero cars were the only open source option. They are from the aughties. That is your only option. It is the same for hardware - libre boot stuff with a Core Duo era processor, nothing newer is trusted hardware.
For something relatively fast, I suggest you stick to Intel chipsets, and avoid realtek like the plague. As others mentioned, you can go with Atheros, but your speed will certainly suffer, as well as probably breaking the ability to put the computer to sleep with S3.
I understand you would rather go with 100% FOSS, but this carries trade-offs.
Here’s a good list: github.com/…/USB_WiFi_Adapters_that_are_supported…
You could always get an Ethernet-connected AP. This will allow you to use the latest WiFi but not compromise your OS.
What os is the ap running?
That’s the beautiful thing - it doesn’t matter.
some people would prefer to only use FOSS software and hardware, though
Good luck with that. What switch are you going to run? What access point what gateway for your ISP.
pretty much any open source hardware can do all of those things… not sure what you’re trying to say
Yeah but to the degree that they need the firmware running on each chip in the device to be a FOSS chip firmware?
If you are going that route just use vfio
I got an Atheros card, which is fine for WiFi on Debian 12 and was cheap to buy. Drivers were in the Debian foss repo. Bluetooth is not working on it though. Interestingly, the Bluetooth did work under PureOS but I never figured out why.
The bluetooth probably needs a non-free firmware blob, as most of them do.
Yeah maybe. I would expect PureOS to come with less non-free components though, being that it’s endorsed by the FSF. I was quite surprised that BT was not working after switching to Debian.
Even if so, it would likely still have proprietary blobs, just embedded into a ROM or flash chip on the card. Personally, I’d rather have firmware loaded at runtime over hard-coded, at least then the blob is able to be reverse engineered possibly.
Intel has entered the chat
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Atheros ath9k (and previously ath5k) has been 100% FOSS for many years.
Yes, but does that still count as “modern”?
ath9k supports N, so I’d consider it modern at least, since I think the vast majority of the population still use it.
N is not modern in any sense of the word. I think 6 is more used then you would think. All ISP I know are giving out 6 access points and have for awhile.
I install residential and business internet for a living and I have yet to encounter a single AX AP operating in the wild (yes I check every time, and yes my devices support it). And our own routers only do N.
We are already having wifi 6 routers being replaced with 6e capable ones.
Just don’t ask about how few of the devices used actually support 6ghz.
I personally don’t recommend the ath9k cards. There are a handful of routers they do not work with. You’ll have to disable QoS to stop the packet drops.
that’s funny because my (wired) ISP router already has this problem, I can’t use ssh without setting IPQoS=0
My isp router is like that too, but on wifi. QCA9377 on an Actiontec mi424 rev I.
Intel ax210 worked good for me so far, but i don’t know if there are software blobs since everything worked from the get go without needing to install anything