Raspberry Pi Connect: an easy-to-use way to access your RPi remotely, using just a web browser (www.raspberrypi.com)
from joojmachine@lemmy.ml to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 May 2024 01:32
https://lemmy.ml/post/15374035

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BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world on 08 May 2024 01:56 next collapse

from anywhere on the planet, using just a web browser.

The poor astronauts on the International Space Station miss out on so much.

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 08 May 2024 03:34 next collapse

They’ll still find a way to connect.

Our friends on Mars, on the other hand…

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 10 May 2024 12:40 collapse
BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world on 08 May 2024 01:59 next collapse

Raspberry Pi Connect needs your Raspberry Pi to be running a 64-bit distribution of Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm that uses the Wayland window server. This in turn means that, for now, you’ll need a Raspberry Pi 5, Raspberry Pi 4, or Raspberry Pi 400.

At the moment, the Raspberry Pi Connect service has just a single relay (TURN) server, located in the UK. This means that if rpi-connect chooses to relay traffic, the latency can be quite high.

Our intention is that Raspberry Pi Connect will remain free (as in beer) for individual users with non-relayed connections, with no limit on the number of devices.

riodoro1@lemmy.world on 08 May 2024 05:26 next collapse

Meanwhile you could just set up all of it yourself and learn a couple of things along the way but instead rPi insists on giving its users training wheels for everything. I think it would be much more useful if they provided a dns service with dynamic ip handling.

Weslee@lemmy.world on 08 May 2024 05:49 collapse

What’s wrong with training wheels?

Worst thing all these stupid guides do is not explain what the commands you are entering do.

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 10 May 2024 12:39 collapse

The Internet is a dangerous place. Training wheels are for inside a LAN and not exposed to the Internet.

Weslee@lemmy.world on 10 May 2024 13:04 collapse

Then how do you learn anything to do with the internet?

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 11 May 2024 12:32 collapse

Study and practice in a safe LAN environment.

ikidd@lemmy.world on 10 May 2024 12:42 collapse

I miss the name “Raspbian”.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 08 May 2024 07:33 next collapse

I’m not sure what this offers vs just using any screen sharing method, or SSH, with a mesh VPN.

giloronfoo@beehaw.org on 08 May 2024 13:09 next collapse

I think it offers not having to know enough about each of those pieces to pick one of each and set them up.

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 08 May 2024 23:51 next collapse

If you’re using a Pi I don’t see why you’d want to avoid learning Linux. Setting up and connecting to SSH servers is an essential skill for anybody doing anything on Linux that isn’t purely desktop use.

giloronfoo@beehaw.org on 09 May 2024 00:46 collapse

While I generally agree that they should, I disagree that they should have to.

SSH and then some sort of VPN for remote terminal access isn’t too bad.

It has been a decade or more since I tried setting up VNC, but I never could figure out how to connect to an existing X session. Has that setup gotten better?

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 10 May 2024 12:38 collapse

Found the Zombie-bot rights supporter!

giloronfoo@beehaw.org on 10 May 2024 14:09 collapse

Hehe.

Won’t this new service help avoid that for users who haven’t figured out how to safely expose a system to the Internet?

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 11 May 2024 12:29 collapse

There is no such "help". Either you learn what is going on and how to monitor or you are simply another easy target.

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 10 May 2024 12:37 collapse

Under no circumstances should anyone have a device exposed to the Internet unless they have learned about all of those.

giloronfoo@beehaw.org on 10 May 2024 14:06 collapse

Isn’t that the point of the new features? Now remote access can be had without directly exposing the device to the internet?

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 11 May 2024 12:29 collapse

That is impossible. If you can log in it is exposed.

Peffse@lemmy.world on 08 May 2024 15:56 next collapse

I’m guessing ease of installation/use.

Bitflip@lemmy.ml on 09 May 2024 00:23 collapse

The VNC server they previously bundled with raspberry pi os is not compatible with Wayland.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 09 May 2024 07:46 collapse

Do you really need to use Wayland on the Pi?

pbjamm@beehaw.org on 09 May 2024 14:14 next collapse

Like it or not Wayland is going to be the future of Desktop Linux. Preparing for that future is a good thing.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 10 May 2024 08:41 collapse

OK but it’s not ready now, objectively speaking. Don’t you think it’s a bit of a dick move from your OS to ship a version that breaks VNC and doesn’t offer an alternative?

Shnog@lemmy.world on 09 May 2024 13:22 collapse

It’s the default in the new PiOS

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 08 May 2024 12:07 collapse

Just use SSH.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 09 May 2024 15:44 collapse

Yeah that won’t work outside lan unless you vpn or something

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 10 May 2024 12:35 next collapse

Not true. SSH works over the open Internet just fine. It is simply an attack vector. Just like Pi Connect would be. So if both are attack vectors, go with the proven technology that is well documented as to how to prevent said attack.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 10 May 2024 16:03 collapse

Wait really? How? I would imagine some port forwarding or something would need to be done though.

TigrisMorte@kbin.social on 11 May 2024 12:35 collapse

A: port forwarding is only required if not in a DMZ.
B: open ports are how machines are accessed regardless of if they are forwarded or not.
C: if you don't understand how ports work, you have no business exposing anything.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 11 May 2024 16:03 collapse

Well I have my port open in my lan but the only way to access it outside of my lan is to port forward. I don’t understand how you can say that all you need to do is open the port and the machine can be accessed.

Same concept applies for any other service like a game server.

ikidd@lemmy.world on 10 May 2024 12:44 collapse

SSH jump host is the same as this. You still have to have a public available service somewhere, that’s how routing works.