How do I check that my system is Linux-compatible?
from ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 14:30
https://lemmy.world/post/35575876

Not too long ago I installed Mint onto a laptop that turned out to have a network card by Broadcom, which doesn’t have Linux support, so that didn’t work. I’m going to upgrade my currently Windows PC to Mint at the end of Win10 support in October, and I want to be sure I don’t have any hardware that is incompatible with Linux. Which manufacturers are obstinate like that?

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Novocirab@feddit.org on 07 Sep 14:39 next collapse

If you have an AMD graphics card (or use Intel graphics), one of the biggest pain points is already nonexistent. If on the other hand you have a NVidia card, getting that to run often comes with (recurrent) pains. What is your graphics card?

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 15:49 collapse

Well, mine is a Nvidia 4060 Ti, and I don’t have the money to change.

Novocirab@feddit.org on 07 Sep 18:49 collapse

It’s still workable for sure.

Above all, memorize one thing: When you update, and then reboot, keep an eye on the computer during reboot, especially during the early stages. That’s because every month or so, when the drivers have gotten updated, you will be presented with a (often blue) screen about MOK Enrolment, i.e. you need your UEFI that the new drivers are trustworthy. If you miss this screen, you’ll boot into a black screen or so without anything telling you what the error is, and to fix it you’ll have to enroll those keys manually – this is not prohibitively difficult, but annoying. (That’s if you have UEFI secure boot enabled. If you have it disabled, there is practically no pain at all, ever. You lose a bit of security though. Personally I have it disabled.)

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 21:25 collapse

Isn’t secure boot unnecessary if nobody else has physical access to the computer?

Novocirab@feddit.org on 07 Sep 21:59 collapse

I think so, yes.

illusionist@lemmy.zip on 07 Sep 14:39 next collapse

Just make a live usb of the distro you want to use and check it out. If mint has no live usb usr amother distro, most have. Just use a big one. Since mint is just ubuntu it should be good

adarza@lemmy.ca on 07 Sep 14:58 next collapse

linux mint’s “installers” can boot into a live environment.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 15:45 next collapse

You can absolutely use Mint as a live system.

NutWrench@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 17:59 collapse

Another vote for trying a live distro. If the live version detects all your computer’s hardware, it will detect it when you install it for real.

turbowafflz@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 14:42 next collapse

Also keep in mind that laptop wifi cards are usually easily replaceable, so if you end up with that being the only problem it’s usually cheap and easy to solve

Corelli_III@midwest.social on 07 Sep 15:07 next collapse

this

these cards are about $ 5-12 and i pull them from junk laptops all the time

not the “easiest” thing to solve but well within the abilities of somebody who can build a PC

chaosCruiser@futurology.today on 07 Sep 16:35 collapse

If you happen to have a nice enterprise laptop, you can usually access the card very easily. For example HP EliteBook laptops (which are sort of nice laptops, but with a bad keyboard) you won’t even need any tools to open the bottom lid. Lenovo ThinkPad laptops tend to require a screwdriver. Never actually swapped a wifi card on either of these, but I guess there could be one more screw holding the card in place. Definitely doable, and it won’t take too long.

Contrast that with HP Pavilion or Acer Aspire TrashBooks. Yes, I have opened a few of those, and I regret every minute of it. Normally, you need to disassemble the whole thing before you get to even see the parts you need to swap. It’s not quite as painful as opening Apple hardware, but it’s not far behind. Verdict: 2/10, would not recommend.

Corelli_III@midwest.social on 07 Sep 16:44 collapse

yeah word to the wise, avoid HP notebooks even if they have that fancy AMD APU you want, they are a nightmare

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 16:24 collapse

Not all laptops have replaceable wireless cards. If you have a thinner machine they probably soldered it on. But I can’t find any rhyme or reason to what manufacturers do and don’t solder.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 07 Sep 20:43 next collapse

Even thicker laptops…I have an HP Envy (that I hate and I want another Lenovo 14")…wifi card is bios locked. I can only replace with another Intel AC card.

turbowafflz@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 23:40 collapse

Interesting, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a laptop where it was soldered.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Sep 00:01 collapse

My Thinkpad P1’s is soldered :( At least that came with a good Intel Wireless card.

But somehow on my T14s (a much smaller machine) it wasn’t soldered.

But then on the bigger T14 it is soldered. So I have no clue what is going on at Lenovo. At least the machines with good wifi cards are soldered, and the shit ass ones are

9point6@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 15:04 next collapse

If it is a computer, it is compatible

You may just need some extra bits in addition to the base ISO

IIRC the Broadcom website has the latest Linux drivers on there if the kernel doesn’t support it out of the box, so grab a copy of those and put them on a USB.

As others have said, you could get a live distro to test it out before you install

BCsven@lemmy.ca on 07 Sep 15:09 next collapse

You can get broadcom to work, it means adding the missing driver.

For example in NixOS its adding a line in the hardware/config file then running a rebuild.

For Ubuntu there appears some steps spelled out lower in this thread askubuntu.com/…/installing-broadcom-wireless-driv…

Some distros publish their known working hardware lists en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware

sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today on 07 Sep 17:19 next collapse

Use Ethernet on the Mint install to get internet and update the kernel to the latest 6.14. Maybe it’ll then be supported

Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works on 07 Sep 21:17 next collapse

On my wifés 2012 MacBook Pro, I had the same broadcom related problem and installing Rpm fusion solved it ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-rpm-fusion-repository…

[deleted] on 07 Sep 21:33 next collapse

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pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Sep 22:02 collapse

If we can answer it here, it will show up on Google in the future

isgleas@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 22:03 next collapse

You could dig into the Linux hardware and see if your system is listed there, and how compatilble it is

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone on 07 Sep 23:49 next collapse

i used a live bootable usb stick to play around before i installed it; the one thing i had an issue with is my display drivers but simply updating using software manager (i think specifically the kernel or something; it's been a while so I cant remember for sure) fixed it

arcidalex@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 02:09 next collapse

Generally speaking, most if not all hardware running Win 10 will be able to work on any Linux distribution making a few exceptions where external drivers can be found. Normally though, this will not be necessary as it will be pre baked into the kernel with no interference from you

That being said - Mint runs an older version of the kernel compared to the current state of desktop Linux and may not contain certain drivers for hardware that came out after that specific kernel version was released. You can use a distro that favors being up to date over long term support, such as Fedora or Arch (if you’re willing to put up with setting up Arch) if that crops up. But generally, if you’re running win 10 still this shouldn’t be a problem

Without knowing your hardware, i can’t really say more though. Just try mint or any other distribution on a live usb and if it works there, then it will work when installed

mvirts@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 03:14 collapse

Mostly just try Linux on it 😹 Don’t install it just run from a flash drive or something