Is it pointless to buy the Affinity Suite and try get it running on Linux?
from SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone to linux@lemmy.ml on 09 Jan 01:47
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from SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone to linux@lemmy.ml on 09 Jan 01:47
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20587605
For context, I want to teach myself Graphics Design as I had dropped out of college copule years ago for personal reason but still want to learn it.
I have heard from few people online that they have got Affinity running with Bottles or Wine. I really want to use less of Windows whereas possible but I’m unsure how well it performs on Linux and if there are a better alternative from Affinity and Adobe in general.
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If you are willing to tolerate the bad UX, you can try GIMP. Otherwise its really worth it
You mean shit ux
appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applica…
Currently at bronze which means it at least starts up, but that’s about it.
I still recommend GIMP 3.0 as it has made huge changes that vastly improved user workflow, such as non-destructive editing, multi-layer selection, lower clicks required for each action, etc. It feels much more modern now and non-developer user friendly.
Or you get a windows VM and run your favorite program in that. It works but has a slight performance decrease. You can disable internet access on the VM to prevent telemetry and spyware.
The notes there say that everything works except that the canvas flickers. Sounds minor but probably makes it unusable. Probably best to install it in a Windows VM if you need it. The Affinity stuff is very good.
Some people are recommending GIMP. It’s not bad for image editing. For image creation krita and Inkscape are amazing.
Yes, you can do the fundamentals & professional design work in these applications—there is no reason to be spending money just to “get into” graphic arts. Hugin + Darktable are great for photography too.
Affinity is like $30.
Krita is free—as in freedom & beer.
Krita is only usable for basic design stuff. (EDIT: DESIGN =/= PAINTING)
It’s mainly alternative to CSP, Medibang, and other painting software.
Definitely not Adobe Photoshop or Affinity Photo alternative.
David Revoy [1] is an artist who uses only open source software and Krita on a very high level and what he produces is pure art. So I would beg to differ, Krita is a extremely capable program if used by a person who can use it properly.
[1] www.davidrevoy.com
Read my comment again :)
Design =/= painting.
Krita is excel at painting and illustrating, and fully alternative to CSP, Medibang, and other painting software.
If you want to use it as general design software, as in layout design, photo manipulation, poster creation, etc, Krita doesn’t even have a lot of comparable features compared to its alternative simply because it was not designed as design software.
Ok, I then misunderstood the point you wanted to make. Sorry for that and thank you for explaining it further.
Apparently Photoshop CC 2017 has a gold rating on winedb, so that could be viable if you are willing to sail the high seas and apply the tweaks for that app listing.
Otherwise I’d stick with Krita, and then GIMP if you find Krita lacking.
I’ve been using a legitimate copy of Photoshop CS6 on wine for a long time and it works flawlessly
I guess if you can’t get it running with WINE or something, you could grab a windows ISO and boot a VM for it if you want to use it.
I got it running on my two kubuntu 24.04 machines using the scripts described in this video:
youtu.be/-vkxDQBzAGc
github.com/ryzendew/AffinityOnLinux
The process was still a bit fiddly but i got all three affinity apps running now.
I hate that kind of instructions “just blindly pipe curl to bash and hope it’s not malware “
Well, jeah, i usually don’t like those too much either.
But then i just open the url and read the script line for line.
It’s just bad practice to even post such a thing. Especially with an influx of new users to linux, it appears so often it makes it seem like that’s normal behavior.
It’s like…a gun salesman handing a purchase to a customer barrel first, finger on the trigger. Like yeah, it’s not loaded, nothing is going to happen, but that’s just terrible practice.
ok, yes, i suppose i should not have mentioned the scripts without attaching a warning.
i’m still grateful though that someone put in the effort to write 'em, because they finally solved a problem for me that i couldn’t solve for years.
i guess now it’s “the communities” turn to properly document and dissect those scripts for the larger user base.
i’m certainly not angry with whoever wrote those scripts because he didn’t put in even more effort for free.
but i do get your point (i think) and agree.
Oh yeah, not putting any blame on you, just agreeing with the person above.
On a related note, it’s not even good practice to copy/paste commands directly from the browser to a terminal at all, because it’s possible for unicode/js tricks to completely override what you think you’re yanking to your clipboard. So copy/pasting a curl-to-bash is a double whammy of bad practices.
I much prefer the practice of stating plainly, “here’s a script, consider it an example, make sure you read it first, and run it at your own risk”.
There are Linux-native alternatives to Adobe and Affinity suites, though of course if you want to get used to specific app controls and shortcuts for one reason or another, you don’t have much choice.
If you’re OK with using FOSS alternatives, Inkscape and Krita are to Affinity Designer / Adobe Illustrator, GIMP is to Affinity Photo / Adobe Photoshop, Darktable is to Adobe Lightroom and Scribus is to Affinity Publisher / Adobe InDesign. All very capable tools IMO.
Unfortunately, none of them are as easy to use and full featured as Affinity softwares.
As much as I love FOSS, Affinity dev did a great job to enhance UX for first-timer, easier than Adobe or FOSS alternative.
Not to mention, so many new feature than any competitor doesn’t have yet.
The closest one in usability and innovation is Inkscape.
GIMP, Scribus, and Krita, are not even close. (Krita is not even direct alternative to them)
I used affinity about 5 years ago. Getting it to run smoothly on Linux is like a yearly tradition of mine. It has never worked well enough to replace native apps though. So yeah, waste of money. Having it run through wine “works” but it’s not usable.
You can use GIMP if you don’t want Affinitys features that gimp doesn’t have(eg,Good ux,Advanced tools like image warpping), and krita it’s designed for Art not image Manipulation and if you dont wanna pay for Affinity you can try out Photopeas (tho both affinity and photopeas are not open source).
I use Photopea for Photoshop stuff, GIMP if what I’m doing needs a particular feature or does better (though that’s not Very many anymore). Inkscape is surprisingly good once you get accustomed to the interface.
I’ve heard good things about Krita but I’ve not messed around with it at all, but it supposedly is much more modern and user friendly than GIMP but suited for digital art and drawing.
I’m hoping affinity comes to Linux, or at least proton/wine pushes hard for it because it’s the one area where desktop Linux is really poor at the moment
Yes, it is, for two reasons:
Your best bet is to run Gimp3 (which is excellent), or Photopea online. Learn Photopea so you can know Photoshop if in the future a future employer requires it, while for your own projects, learn Gimp3. I run the official Appimage without any issue.
I’m gonna add something nobody mentioned yet: you can easily get hundreds extra filters on gimp and krita by installing G’MIC (already installed in some version)
Also get your hands on blender and stable diffusion
Affinity is on my list of reasons I don’t go 100% Linux. People have gotten it to work (I myself have not tried) but it always seems janky and not a long term solution.
There are alternatives to Affinity, but that’s another discussion. Why you want it, your use cases etc.
I am currently deciding between a dual boot scenario vs a VM of Windows. I’ll probably choose the latter, but your situation might not want to even go down this road.
If you use Docker, I’ve had good luck with this project, it makes slapping a windows VM on your machine very easy and fast to set up, and you can RDP into it locally, xfreerdp has a ton of options to use everything including multimonitor.
Oh nice. I’ll have to look into this as it looks like a good solution. Much appreciated
This is just an idea, but bazzite could possibly work for affinity. It’s designed around steam and proton compatibility layer, and it can play almost all games made for Windows out of the box.
So perhaps you could use the proton compatibility layer instead of wine. You could even add the exe to steam as a “non-steam-game” to make starting the program super simple.
I am no expert here, it’s just a thought.
The Affinity suite is notoriously difficult to get working properly in WINE and/or Proton
I just thought perhaps there is already a lot of the necessary components there since bazzite is so well-tailored to running windows games. But of course I have no idea what I’m talking about. I hope I made that at least somewhat clear in my comment.
It was a good assumption. These days most games will work flawlessly in WINE/Proton, but the same can’t be said for other Windows software, sadly.
This is exactly why it took me so long to nuke my dual boot windows drive. One program, Fruity Loops, I couldn’t ever get to run well enough to be usable in an unfrustrating manner. Just recently got it chugging away in bottles, there’s a community made bottle for it, but I found that doesn’t actually work. At least not for me. Took 3 weeks of tweaking things to get it going, but I got there in the end.
I currently run it in a Windows 10 VM using virt-manager and the
virtiodrivers from RedHat to enable OpenGL acceleration on a Windows guest. It is a decent experience. Would probably be much better if I passed a USB pointer directly into the VM instead of relying on virtualization.Haven’t tried it in WINE, and probably will never bother until the Affinity team take it seriously.
GIMP and Krita are much more versatile than folks give them credit for. And of course there’s Inkscape for vector. I would suggest learning on these tools and if you find yourself limited then you can start considering other options.
I regularly uses Affinity software, Krita, and GIMP.
Affinity software is way better designed and more feature-packed for graphic design. Affinity software avoids a lot of complexity of Adobe and make it easier for newcomer.
GIMP is not even close.
Krita on other hand is only suitable for basic image editing, not full-blown design software. It’s created for drawing-related stuff after all… You only can recommend Krita for people that looking for Clip Studio Paint, Medibang, or ibis Paint alternative.
Yes, i did the same and tried to make it work with wine or distrobox with no luck (I’m probably not the best with linux). I ended up with a windows vm and all possible software that doesn’t run on linux 🤷♂️
Is it the best solution? No. Did i get rid of that cancers called windows and adobe? Oh FUCK YES. Am I happy? Hell yea. I can do graphic design with a pencil if needed. Fuck Adobe, fuck Windows.
You will have more luck running older versions of Photoshop using wine.