nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
on 10 Oct 2024 01:21
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I'm going to stick with my Intel graphics, X-Org, and the kernel X-server. Fuck Wayland and all corporate bullshit behind it. It does not network properly and right there is a show stopper for my needs.
bogpunk@lemmy.ca
on 10 Oct 2024 03:26
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If you’re going to point fingers, point at the problem, not something you don’t understand.
Wayland has problems; it is not the problem. X needs a replacement and I strongly encourage you to research why if you don’t understand why. Wayland is relatively new, and has large shoes to fill.
It will be many years before it has matured enough to fill your and everyone else’s needs, and by then there will a new replacement for someone else to gripe about on the internet.
nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
on 10 Oct 2024 04:38
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@dink A fundamental property of X was that it was a networked protocol, it allowed you to display an application running on one machine, on another. The kernel X-server has in no way been inadequate in terms of performance. So that is what I continue to use. Wayland might someday make Linux a viable game platform helping it replace Windows, and in that sense I applaud it, and perhaps Wayland on Wires will eventually make it a viable network protocol but it's not there yet.
Wayland is already old architecture by today’s standards. It was designed in 2007 by the same people who did Xorg. Linux should have copied or ported the 2014 compositor version of Android (which is currently the one still used). The license was good for it, and its technology the most advanced (neither MacOS/iOS or Win comes close). But Linux users have allergy on anything coming from Google and so we ended up with Wayland.
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I'm going to stick with my Intel graphics, X-Org, and the kernel X-server. Fuck Wayland and all corporate bullshit behind it. It does not network properly and right there is a show stopper for my needs.
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If you’re going to point fingers, point at the problem, not something you don’t understand.
Wayland has problems; it is not the problem. X needs a replacement and I strongly encourage you to research why if you don’t understand why. Wayland is relatively new, and has large shoes to fill.
It will be many years before it has matured enough to fill your and everyone else’s needs, and by then there will a new replacement for someone else to gripe about on the internet.
@dink A fundamental property of X was that it was a networked protocol, it allowed you to display an application running on one machine, on another. The kernel X-server has in no way been inadequate in terms of performance. So that is what I continue to use. Wayland might someday make Linux a viable game platform helping it replace Windows, and in that sense I applaud it, and perhaps Wayland on Wires will eventually make it a viable network protocol but it's not there yet.
Wayland is already old architecture by today’s standards. It was designed in 2007 by the same people who did Xorg. Linux should have copied or ported the 2014 compositor version of Android (which is currently the one still used). The license was good for it, and its technology the most advanced (neither MacOS/iOS or Win comes close). But Linux users have allergy on anything coming from Google and so we ended up with Wayland.