In case you missed it, LXQt and Xfce both support Wayland now
from superkret@feddit.org to linux@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 20:25
https://feddit.org/post/8828962

Both don’t ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn’t hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don’t know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

LXQt’s newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
lxqt-project.org/release/…/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

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pr06lefs@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 20:54 next collapse

nice! I like to run xfce in no-desktop mode with xmonad for the WM. Maybe the same approach will work with sway.

Zucca@sopuli.xyz on 06 Mar 20:59 next collapse

Yay! Wayfire.

Been using Wayfire for quite some time now. I’m tempted to test out xfce.

BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org on 06 Mar 21:00 next collapse

I’m seeing a screenshot of lxqt Labwc and I’m seriously considering trying it.

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 21:03 next collapse

Great news hope to see Wayland being more popular

jlow@beehaw.org on 06 Mar 21:08 collapse

Have been on Walyand for a year now, no problems except for a weird big in Inscape so thst runs in X11 mode.

Stitch0815@feddit.org on 07 Mar 09:47 collapse

Oh interesting I am currently struggeling with inkscape on KDE plasma wayland

Can I ask you what your bur was?

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 21:27 next collapse

what distros are confident enough to enable it by default atm?

thurstylark@lemm.ee on 06 Mar 21:54 next collapse

If it ships, Arch will have it immediately.

shadshack@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 03:29 next collapse

KDE Neon and kubuntu have Wayland as default. Just was trying them because I wanted Plasma 6. Took a bit of tweaking for a few things but I have all the things I need running fine with Wayland.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 20:05 collapse

i was talking about xfce/lxqt…

Admetus@sopuli.xyz on 07 Mar 08:28 collapse

Fedora, so most Gnome based distros. KDE as commented beside me. Arch-based EndeavourOS.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 20:05 collapse

what about xfce/lxqt?

AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 21:40 next collapse

Might push to run Sway + XFCE on my laptop, opposed to i3 + XFCE

HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one on 06 Mar 22:45 next collapse

I’m currently using sway/ mate on my chromebook. Ii like the idea of not switching between Wayland & x11 when switching DE’s

admin@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 03:40 collapse

When I first started using KDE and Sway I was so used to the Xfce apps that I installed the xfce4-goodies, running on top of Wayland. So fucking good memories.

KindaABigDyl@programming.dev on 06 Mar 22:52 next collapse

Sweet! Now that 4.20 is officially released it’s in Nixpkgs. That means xfce4-panel is 4.20 in unstable

Might go back to Hyprland from KDE now that there’s a half-decent bar for Wayland compositors!

KindaABigDyl@programming.dev on 06 Mar 22:53 next collapse

Sweet! Now that 4.20 is officially released it’s in Nixpkgs. That means xfce4-panel is 4.20 in unstable

Might go back to Hyprland from KDE now that there’s a half-decent bar for Wayland compositors!

not_amm@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 23:08 next collapse

I don’t know if it’s been updated recently, but take into account that LXQT doesn’t support global shortcuts yet ☝️

It works well, but it’s still missing features; as they say: it’s experimental right now.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 06 Mar 23:31 collapse

Openbox (LXQt’s wm under Xorg) does support global shortcuts.

And labwc supports rc.xml so it should support global shortcuts as well.

not_amm@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 23:53 next collapse

Thanks for pointing that out. I think some are also supported in KWin:)

Samespot@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 07:41 collapse

But its really hard to config, i dont know the codes or format

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 07 Mar 08:31 collapse

If you can’t edit XML use nice GUI lxhotkey or obkey instead

Samespot@lemmy.world on 09 Mar 08:44 collapse

thanks, will take a look

chismoso@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 00:33 next collapse

sway, wayfire, river, hyprland and labwc are standalone wayland compositors. why we need desktop environments inside them!

admin@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 03:37 next collapse

I guess we are used to it, I like to use sway in the desktop and KDE in the laptop but I want to run Wayland. And with both of them is possible.

superkret@feddit.org on 07 Mar 07:01 next collapse

You don’t need a desktop environment, but it takes away a lot of config work if you want a full featured desktop.

loutr@jlai.lu on 07 Mar 16:36 collapse

Exactly, I used hyprland for a while but configuration is too time-consuming if you want a decent status bar, launcher, keybinds… So I’m excited to try it with LXqt, thanks for the heads-up!

photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Mar 09:34 next collapse

I used sway for quite a while and after the initial setup (which was very finniky) it was alright to use. But then you start to notice little things that annoy you and by that time you’ve forgotten where that setting was in the config. For Linux noobs like me it’s not great long-term. If you like having all your DE settings in a config file sure, use it, but I’m going back to KDE.

Ferk@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 09:56 collapse

A compositor is normally a component in a DE, not a DE on its own. For it to be a DE in my book the “standalone” installation needs to, at minimum, provide: a launcher to execute apps, a toolbar/statusbar, and maybe a terminal emulator (or at least call some generic wrapper to automatically hook into one, something like xdg-terminal-exec).

I mean… openbox is used in X11 desktop environments like LXDE… I don’t see why labwc (essentially wayland’s openbox) should be treated like it cannot be a component of one.

And river has almost as a mission statement to become more of a framework than a DE on its own… they even have the goal in the long term to remove things from it and instead expose more to the commands/API to make it more modular… it’s definitely not something intended to work standalone and they expect people to develop third party layout generator programs.

Maybe sway is the one in that list that might be the most “standalone”, since it does have swaybar built-in… but the default configuration still expects you to provide at least something like dmenu to use as launcher, as well as making sure you have your terminal, etc, since it does not list them as specific dependencies of the sway package, so officially they aren’t really part of sway as if it were a DE suite.

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 01:24 next collapse

For what it’s worth, they have experimental Wayland support. It’s an important distinction. For example, Cinnamon has experimental Wayland support IIRC and last time I tried setting up a lock screen on my ThinkPad (you know, for security purposes, since it’s a laptop and all) I wasn’t able to get one working.

daggermoon@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 09:00 next collapse

That’s actually fucking rad.

jaxxed@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 09:51 next collapse

LXQT on niri could be quite interesting

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 07 Mar 12:09 next collapse

XFCE only mostly though. Stuff like tray and xfwm (the window manager) not yet.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 20:13 next collapse

why would they need inferior scientists?

ikidd@lemmy.world on 08 Mar 01:15 next collapse

Support might be a strong word.

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 13 Mar 11:50 collapse

I’m so excited for Wayland xfce but my laptop is really old and probably cant run Wayland as well as x11.

superkret@feddit.org on 13 Mar 12:22 collapse

I don’t think a Wayland compositor needs any more resources than a window manager plus X server.

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 13 Mar 19:20 collapse

Why wouldn’t it? Wayland does a lot more. I haven’t done any testing but on vibes x11 feels more responsive on my old system