I think it does that for some parts, but it does close the game out and open up folders for some spooks
leopold@lemmy.kde.social
on 21 Sep 2024 04:03
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What problems do you anticipate? Wine, which Proton is just a modified version of, implements file dialogs. If it didn’t, just about every application that isn’t a game would be broken. Needing to open files is pretty ubiquitous, after all. You need file dialogs for that.
Well part of what it does is grab your actual desktop background to use, and there’s a couple different ways to do that on Linux afaik
Also I guess the file dialogs would open only to the wine prefix? My experience with wine applications and dialogs is mostly through bottles, so I’m not sure of the sandboxing…
Z:\ is a mount in wine to the rest of your file system
feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
on 20 Sep 2024 04:09
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How likely is it that Proton can be used to make native Windows applications (especially CAD-Software) run on Linux? Beside my own desperate desire to do that I guess there are others out there to eagerly switch OS. For the software providers it seems to be a great opportunity to acquired new customers (at first glance).
shirro@aussie.zone
on 20 Sep 2024 05:02
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Proton is a patched Wine with a translation layer from DirectX to Vulkan. Wine will run a lot of Windows cad software with varying success, particularly older versions and I am not sure how much general desktop applications benefit from the Valve sponsored improvements to gaming. It is a shame these CAD programs weren’t all built on game engines like Unity or Unreal instead of a bunch of Windows APIs with varied levels of implementation.
eugenia@lemmy.ml
on 20 Sep 2024 07:00
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Proton is well developed for games, but not for apps. But Wine itself is not as well taken cared for. Without tricks, patches and prayers, most complex apps don’t run on it. Or if they load, they crash quickly afterwards.
Which CAD app are you trying to run? If it’s 2D, have you tried QCad/Cam?
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Valve hasn’t heard of imperative mood for changelog entries, it seens.
I also haven’t. What is it?
De facto standard for how to write commit messages (and thus usually changelog messages).
git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/…/SubmittingPatches?h=…
Ah, that makes sense. That link was very enlightening. Thank you!
(On a side-note, I felt absolutely flashbanged by the sheer light mode of that page. Jesus Christ on a motorbike…)
> Kinito Pet now playable
How the fuck is that gonna work
What is Kinito Pet?
store.steampowered.com/app/2075070/KinitoPET/
It’s a game that messed with the windows on your desktop and opens file dialogs and stuff (as part of the spooks)
It makes me wonder how it works on the Linux side
As I understand the screenshots, it looks like it is simulating a windows XP desktop but not opening actual windows or messing with the system
I think it does that for some parts, but it does close the game out and open up folders for some spooks
What problems do you anticipate? Wine, which Proton is just a modified version of, implements file dialogs. If it didn’t, just about every application that isn’t a game would be broken. Needing to open files is pretty ubiquitous, after all. You need file dialogs for that.
Well part of what it does is grab your actual desktop background to use, and there’s a couple different ways to do that on Linux afaik
Also I guess the file dialogs would open only to the wine prefix? My experience with wine applications and dialogs is mostly through bottles, so I’m not sure of the sandboxing…
Z:\ is a mount in wine to the rest of your file system
How likely is it that Proton can be used to make native Windows applications (especially CAD-Software) run on Linux? Beside my own desperate desire to do that I guess there are others out there to eagerly switch OS. For the software providers it seems to be a great opportunity to acquired new customers (at first glance).
Proton is a patched Wine with a translation layer from DirectX to Vulkan. Wine will run a lot of Windows cad software with varying success, particularly older versions and I am not sure how much general desktop applications benefit from the Valve sponsored improvements to gaming. It is a shame these CAD programs weren’t all built on game engines like Unity or Unreal instead of a bunch of Windows APIs with varied levels of implementation.
Proton is well developed for games, but not for apps. But Wine itself is not as well taken cared for. Without tricks, patches and prayers, most complex apps don’t run on it. Or if they load, they crash quickly afterwards.
Which CAD app are you trying to run? If it’s 2D, have you tried QCad/Cam?
Gstarcad 2022 and 2023 (I haven’t tested the latest versions) work perfectly on linux via wine and are 100% compatible with autodesk’s dwg format.
what does “Desktop Only” mean in this context?
Mostly that it doesn’t work on Steam Deck. Hits memory limits IIRC.