Systemd v257 released (github.com)
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 11 Dec 06:34
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/26580197

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trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Dec 11:53 next collapse

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as systemd, is in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning systemd system made useful by the systemd services, journald and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Poettering.

Many computer users run a modified version of systemd every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd init service, developed by Lennart Poettering.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete init system. Linux is normally used in combination with systemd: the whole system is basically systemd with Linux added, or systemd/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of systemd/Linux!

Goun@lemmy.ml on 11 Dec 14:41 next collapse

This is great!

You mentioned the name of the developer of systemd and it sounded to me like there’s a problem with that person in particular. Is that what you meant? I’m aware people have their feelings about systemd, but haven’t heard anything about the developer, am I missing something or just overthinking it?

trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Dec 15:09 collapse

lol. I don’t like systemd, but this is just a modified version of the GNU/Linux copypasta. It’s just a light-hearted jab at the fact that systemd does so many things on Linux systems that it’s almost as important as the kernel and GNU utils.

I don’t actually know much about Poettering, so not much to say in that regard.

hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz on 11 Dec 23:24 collapse

All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of systemd/Linux!

but are they really? how about distros without systemd what would you call those OpenRC/Linux? systemd is indeed a giant intricate project,which is why some people don’t like it or are against it,but all its components are working alongside the Linux kernel, without which there wouldn’t be a need for system. I would say it’s rather Linux with systemd,as systemd is optional.

edit: useless autocorrect

Rogue@feddit.uk on 12 Dec 21:22 collapse

Why do so many projects ignore semantic versioning? It’s so much easier to comprehend changes when versions are major, minor or patch