from yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml to linux@lemmy.ml on 22 Jun 15:51
https://lemmy.ml/post/32093636
EDIT: tldr - I was having issues creating a VM using Virtual Machine Manager on Bazzite Linux. Several responders chimed in that it’s likely because I’m using the flatpak version of VMM. I probably still could make it work on Bazzite somehow, perhaps w/ the help of distrobox, but instead I’ve fired up a VM on an old laptop running Linux Mint and everything is smooth sailing. Thanks to all who took some time to help me find a solution.
Original body:
Background: I’m looking to set up a virtual Debian server using Virtual Machine Manager, but I’m stuck on creating my first VM. I’m running Bazzite on my host machine if that makes any difference.
Steps to Reproduce the Issue:
- Launch Virtual Machine Manager.
- Click File > New Virtual Machine, which opens the “New VM - Step 1” window.
- Select “Local install media” and click Forward, which brings me to "New VM - Step 2."
- Click “Browse…” which opens the “Locate ISO media volume” window:
- Click “Browse Local,” which opens the file browser.
- Choose ISO file (in my case, I’m using
debian-12.11.0-amd64-netinst.iso
) and click Select, which returns me to the “New VM - Step 2” window. - Because the OS is not detected automatically, I uncheck the “Automatically detect from the installation media / source” checkbox, start typing the word “debian” in the text box above it, and select Debian 12 from the pop-up selection menu.
- Click Forward.
Actual behavior:
Input Error - Error setting installer parameters. Validating install media ‘/run/user/1000/doc/c0a3c3fc/debian-12.11.0-amd64-netinst.iso’ failed. Could not start storage pool: cannot open directory ‘/run/usr/1000/doc/c0a3c3fc’: Permission denied.
Expected behavior: Create the VM and boot into the ISO that I selected in previous steps.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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My best guess is there’s a permissions issue with whatever you have the ISO stored on. Try copying the iso to somewhere in your home folder.
I copied the ISO file to my home directory but got the same result. Any other ideas?
EDIT: I got past this issue by opening up Flatseal and granting access to all system files for Virtual Machine Manager; however, now I’m getting stuck on another permission issue after I choose how much RAM, CPU, and disk space to allocate. Reference my response to @ormith@lemmy.world’s comment.
Might check the file permissions then. Who owns the file? Does VMM have read permissions to the file? UUID 1000 is root, so it sounds like VMM is being run as your user, but the ISO is owned by root. You could try chown'ing that file to your user.
Did you add yourself to the libvirt group? And check the permissions of the image it self, maybe thats the issue
That /run/user/1000/doc/… path suggests it’s getting the .iso through the documents portal. So virt-manager is a flatpak? Sounds bad! Try using flatseal to give it direct access to all files.
Thanks - this got me past the original issue. What I did is I opened up Flatseal and granted access to all system files for Virtual Machine Manager.
However, now I’m stuck at a different point. I can get past where I choose how much memory, CPU, and disk storage to allocate, but when I get to Step 5 and click Finish,
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This happens:
This message is talking about permission denied, so I checked the file permissions, and I saw that the ISO file is owned by the qemu user:
I changed it to myusername:
When I tried the same steps again, I got stuck in the same place and rerunning
ls
showed that the ISO file’s ownership has reverted back toqemu
.Any ideas?
No idea. Since the path is a /run/media one, what’s the filesystem used there? Perhaps it’s incompatible. Have you tried putting the iso in your home directory and going from there instead?
But perhaps it would work best if you just do what the documentation tells you not to do and rpm-ostree install virt-manager (and libvirt and friends, if needed)
Install from your distro instead.
Well, what are the permissions of /run/usr/1000/doc/c0a3c3fc and what user are you running VMM as?
Here are the results of some commands that I believe answer your questions. When I run the
ls
command against that directory, it says no such file or directory. Could this have something to do w/ the fact that Virtual Machine Manager is running as a flatpak? (as the other commenter @ormith@lemmy.world has hinted)Here’s what I tried:
EDIT: I got past this issue by opening up Flatseal and granting access to all system files for Virtual Machine Manager; however, now I’m getting stuck on another permission issue after I choose how much RAM, CPU, and disk space to allocate. Reference my response to @ormith@lemmy.world’s comment.
WOW, yes, your problem is almost certainly Flatpak-related. I’m surprised you even got as far as you did. Flatpak is often great but does not tend to play well with applications that need less common capabilities.
I’d recommend installing VMM in a different way if that’s an option for you; I expect that will likely make your problem go away.
Virtual Machine Manager’s GitHub page for its flatpak includes the following lines:
So, in this case, have you either installed libvirtd on the host^[Technically, you could also install libvirtd as a sysext.] (i.e. have you installed it with
rpm-ostree
) OR have you installed the QEMU extension as per its own instruction?If neither, then you should at least do one of them and report back.
EDIT: While what’s written above remains relevant beyond Bazzite, Bazzite’s ujust scripts do provide handholds for a myriad of situations including this one:
ujust
script will likely install another instance of VM Manager. As such, the flatpak is no longer needed and would only cause confusion.] the flatpak of Virtual Machine Manager)ujust
, i.e. invoke theujust setup-virtualization
commandI suppose the
ujust
way handles a bunch of gotchas you’d otherwise have to tackle yourself. And, thus, is most likely preferred over all other methods.As a side note, please consider consulting Bazzite’s excellent documentation first. We’ll be more than happy to help out regardless, but I’m sure there are a bunch of gems you’ll be missing out on otherwise.