I think this is misleading. They’re offering to match your Chrome extension with an equivalent Firefox extension. But they are not providing an extension compatibility layer to run Chrome extensions.
And whether this is using equivalents or a compatibility layer, to the average non tech savvy person is irrelevant. They don’t care as long as it’s the extension they had and it works.
Currently the only browser (I know) that has the compatibility layer is the Orion browser by Kagi search engine. It is based on WebKit but expose API for both Firefox and Chromium extensions.
Not total compatibility but FF web extension compatibility is higher in number than Chromium.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 11:19
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I don’t. If they meant that they would’ve said it. I had no moment of misunderstanding at all. Of course it would mean “I’ll automatically match to the equivalent one so you don’t have to do it manually”. They just wanted to state it in a way it was easier to understand
priapus@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Oct 2023 17:20
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I dont think that is misleading. They’re functionally the same extensions made by the same authors, if you trust one you trust the other.
Link@rentadrunk.org
on 25 Oct 2023 07:08
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Slightly odd they are opting to gradually roll out several features this release.
If they aren’t ready then maybe push them back to the next release?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 11:20
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Or they are learning from other apps that do this all the time to great success
Such as? I don’t know many open source apps doing this.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 19:35
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Why does it need to be limited to open source? A lot of the biggest apps out there typically roll out features slowly. I feel like once Facebook started doing it, it became widespread
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de
on 25 Oct 2023 07:44
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Waiting for vertical tabs…
Vitaly@feddit.uk
on 25 Oct 2023 07:51
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iusearchbtw@lemmy.sdf.org
on 25 Oct 2023 10:15
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Tree Style Tabs forever, baby! Simple vertical tab bars can’t even hope to compete.
koorool@feddit.de
on 25 Oct 2023 17:12
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It should be built in at this point. It’s annoying to apply userChrome.css tweaks to remove normal tabs and sidebar header.
Onihikage@beehaw.org
on 26 Oct 2023 02:21
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I recently found Sideberry which looks like an improvement over TST, but I’ve been putting off switching to it because I would have to reorganize 431 tabs :')
GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de
on 25 Oct 2023 08:30
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The only thing I want is proper support for desktop addons on mobile.
3laws@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 08:56
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You can use a couple already in the nightly builds of both firefox and the respective add-on
TonyOstrich@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 10:07
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Sure, but not even close to all. It’s been literal years since the change. I was understanding at first, but now it’s just becoming frustrating. Things that are very easy in desktop Firefox just isn’t possible on mobile Firefox. And yes, I am running Firefox nightly and custom collections for my extensions on mobile.
parpol@programming.dev
on 25 Oct 2023 10:24
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This is in my opinion the biggest issue holding Firefox back in the mobile market. I would be perfectly fine with no more feature updates whatsoever as long as all addons worked.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 11:16
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I’m guessing way less than 1% of people would use mobile extensions. I personally do but I don’t think most people use chrome on mobile because of the lack of full extension support on mobile Firefox (which btw is coming). I think people use chrome because “everyone else does”.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Oct 2023 14:12
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I think you’re underestimating how valuable tab groups are to people. I would make a full switch if Firefox could offer that feature on mobile in any reasonable way. Since it’s already a desktop extension, I’m just waiting for them to be made available on Android
elbarto777@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 16:24
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I think you’re underestimating the diversity of browser users out there.
The majority simply doesn’t care about extensions. They just use whatever is already installed on their phones, as long as it’s useable enough.
People use whatever ‘Internet icon’ came with their device and live their ignorant, but happy life :)
TrickDacy@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 17:31
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Yeah many do. Unless they find out they can hop on a bandwagon, such as with Chrome
Audacity9961@feddit.ch
on 26 Oct 2023 01:24
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It has already been announced and is likely to come before year-end.
yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 25 Oct 2023 09:33
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my list of cool features:
Gradually rolling out in Fx119, Firefox now allows you to edit PDFs by adding images and alt text, in addition to text and drawings.
If you’re migrating your data from Chrome, Firefox now offers the ability to import some of your extensions as well.
As part of Total Cookie Protection, Firefox now supports the partitioning of Blob URLs, this mitigates a potential tracking vector that third-party agents could use to track an individual.
The visibility of fonts to websites has been restricted to system fonts and language pack fonts in Enhanced Tracking Protection strict mode to mitigate font fingerprinting.
Encrypted Client Hello (ECH) is now available to Firefox users, delivering a more private browsing experience. ECH extends the encryption used in TLS connections to cover more of the handshake and better protect sensitive fields.
Firefox is now available in the Santali (sat) language.
Several enhancements have been made to the Inactive CSS styles feature. This feature assists in identifying CSS properties that have no effect on an element. Pseudo-elements such as ::first-letter, ::cue, and ::placeholder are now fully supported.
The JSON viewer is particularly useful for debugging REST APIs, as it displays formatted JSON responses. Now, if the JSON is invalid or broken, it automatically switches to a raw data view, improving the user experience.
Grouping of items in an array (and iterables) is now easier by using the methods Object.groupBy or Map.groupBy.
Pantherina@feddit.de
on 25 Oct 2023 14:48
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Hmm, only system fonts doesnt seem to help? Wouldnt that circumvent having the browser in a fake environment like Torbrowser does that, with the same fonts?
elbarto777@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 16:21
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Torbrowser is based in Firefox, but it could make sure that its anti-tracking mechanisms keep working.
SauceFlexr@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 11:11
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I keep waiting for better profile management. Not saying it needs to mirror chrome exactly, but feature wise it falls short (at least how I would like to use it).
Acters@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 11:52
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Please elaborate, I don’t know what to use the profile features for
Pantherina@feddit.de
on 25 Oct 2023 14:47
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They are completely isolates browser settings. Account, session, settings, hardening, history, everything.
To a certain extent you can do that with multi-account containers.
For instance, I can have Amazon always open in my “Shopping” tab to keep it separate from my “Social Networks” tab.
Pantherina@feddit.de
on 25 Oct 2023 21:03
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Yes to some extent, but no addons, settings, user account, passwords, synchronized stuff etc.
Also afaik you can have profiles be encrypted with different master passwords
jodanlime@midwest.social
on 25 Oct 2023 21:47
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I use multiple accounts with Firefox containers, on office.com specifically. One container for my normal account and one for my admin. It works great for me but maybe there are other sites it doesn’t like.
Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Oct 2023 00:20
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I’d much rather use a separate Firefox (now Mozilla I think) account for my professional work. I also would prefer having separate extensions, notably Zotero connector is kind of useless for my personal browsing
Pantherina@feddit.de
on 25 Oct 2023 14:46
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Yes please elaborate. Firefox Profiles are awesome!
SauceFlexr@lemmy.world
on 25 Oct 2023 21:11
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While they are passable, if you have used/setup profiles in Chrome, it’s a far better user experience with more flexibility. Normally, I would go into app grouping in the start menu, but I just realized I am commenting in the Linux community. 😂
bundes_sheep@lemmy.one
on 25 Oct 2023 23:56
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The visibility of fonts to websites has been restricted to system fonts and language pack fonts in Enhanced Tracking Protection strict mode to mitigate font fingerprinting.
I’m happy to see this. It’s crazy how hard advertisers try to determine who I am when I’m actively attempting not to be shown their garbage and won’t buy it from their links. Browsers should be sending far fewer html headers, and restricting the listed fonts to a common list is a good step forward.
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I would just rather see direct link than blogspam:
www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/releasenotes/
Exactly, especially since the article is basically just reading the changelog and jumping from random additions without any logic.
Thank
Nice.
I think this is misleading. They’re offering to match your Chrome extension with an equivalent Firefox extension. But they are not providing an extension compatibility layer to run Chrome extensions.
Yeah. I agree with you. New non-tech-savvy person might misunderstand.
However, new user rarely look at the changelog. So I think this wording does not affect much.
And whether this is using equivalents or a compatibility layer, to the average non tech savvy person is irrelevant. They don’t care as long as it’s the extension they had and it works.
Yes, agree.
Currently the only browser (I know) that has the compatibility layer is the Orion browser by Kagi search engine. It is based on WebKit but expose API for both Firefox and Chromium extensions.
Not total compatibility but FF web extension compatibility is higher in number than Chromium.
I don’t. If they meant that they would’ve said it. I had no moment of misunderstanding at all. Of course it would mean “I’ll automatically match to the equivalent one so you don’t have to do it manually”. They just wanted to state it in a way it was easier to understand
I dont think that is misleading. They’re functionally the same extensions made by the same authors, if you trust one you trust the other.
Slightly odd they are opting to gradually roll out several features this release.
If they aren’t ready then maybe push them back to the next release?
Or they are learning from other apps that do this all the time to great success
Such as? I don’t know many open source apps doing this.
Why does it need to be limited to open source? A lot of the biggest apps out there typically roll out features slowly. I feel like once Facebook started doing it, it became widespread
Waiting for vertical tabs…
just install some extention
There are extensions that do that, use those along with userChrome and you can effectively replicate the look and feel of any other browser.
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Tree Style Tabs forever, baby! Simple vertical tab bars can’t even hope to compete.
It should be built in at this point. It’s annoying to apply userChrome.css tweaks to remove normal tabs and sidebar header.
I recently found Sideberry which looks like an improvement over TST, but I’ve been putting off switching to it because I would have to reorganize 431 tabs :')
The only thing I want is proper support for desktop addons on mobile.
You can use a couple already in the nightly builds of both firefox and the respective add-on
Sure, but not even close to all. It’s been literal years since the change. I was understanding at first, but now it’s just becoming frustrating. Things that are very easy in desktop Firefox just isn’t possible on mobile Firefox. And yes, I am running Firefox nightly and custom collections for my extensions on mobile.
This is in my opinion the biggest issue holding Firefox back in the mobile market. I would be perfectly fine with no more feature updates whatsoever as long as all addons worked.
I’m guessing way less than 1% of people would use mobile extensions. I personally do but I don’t think most people use chrome on mobile because of the lack of full extension support on mobile Firefox (which btw is coming). I think people use chrome because “everyone else does”.
I think you’re underestimating how valuable tab groups are to people. I would make a full switch if Firefox could offer that feature on mobile in any reasonable way. Since it’s already a desktop extension, I’m just waiting for them to be made available on Android
I think you’re underestimating the diversity of browser users out there.
The majority simply doesn’t care about extensions. They just use whatever is already installed on their phones, as long as it’s useable enough.
People use whatever ‘Internet icon’ came with their device and live their ignorant, but happy life :)
Yeah many do. Unless they find out they can hop on a bandwagon, such as with Chrome
It has already been announced and is likely to come before year-end.
my list of cool features:
Hmm, only system fonts doesnt seem to help? Wouldnt that circumvent having the browser in a fake environment like Torbrowser does that, with the same fonts?
Torbrowser is based in Firefox, but it could make sure that its anti-tracking mechanisms keep working.
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I keep waiting for better profile management. Not saying it needs to mirror chrome exactly, but feature wise it falls short (at least how I would like to use it).
Please elaborate, I don’t know what to use the profile features for
They are completely isolates browser settings. Account, session, settings, hardening, history, everything.
To a certain extent you can do that with multi-account containers.
For instance, I can have Amazon always open in my “Shopping” tab to keep it separate from my “Social Networks” tab.
Yes to some extent, but no addons, settings, user account, passwords, synchronized stuff etc.
Also afaik you can have profiles be encrypted with different master passwords
I use multiple accounts with Firefox containers, on office.com specifically. One container for my normal account and one for my admin. It works great for me but maybe there are other sites it doesn’t like.
I’d much rather use a separate Firefox (now Mozilla I think) account for my professional work. I also would prefer having separate extensions, notably Zotero connector is kind of useless for my personal browsing
Yes please elaborate. Firefox Profiles are awesome!
While they are passable, if you have used/setup profiles in Chrome, it’s a far better user experience with more flexibility. Normally, I would go into app grouping in the start menu, but I just realized I am commenting in the Linux community. 😂
I’m happy to see this. It’s crazy how hard advertisers try to determine who I am when I’m actively attempting not to be shown their garbage and won’t buy it from their links. Browsers should be sending far fewer html headers, and restricting the listed fonts to a common list is a good step forward.