eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws
on 04 Mar 00:33
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Debian testing is just a small resistance step of future arch users still scared to distrohop
BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz
on 04 Mar 15:24
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It’s kinda how I ended up with nixos
Wanted a stable and cool system, so went with debian stable.
But stable was outdated for my taste, so I went to testing.
But testing had missing packets, so I tried to update to unstable, though I did it badly and crashed my system.
After resinstalling testing, I tried to make a semi-failed script to autodownload/update apps outside the debian repo, but I found out that nixos essentially did this, in fact much better. And I accidentally deleted my /usr/bin/ dir with that script, so I eventually went with nixos unstable:)
I mean, the logical step is to go to Debian sid, which, despite its alternative name unstable, is really not. I’ve been running a gaming rig on it for over a year with nothing more than vey vey minor hiccups, mostly because I’m impatient and run apt full-upgrade frequently.
BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz
on 05 Mar 14:40
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As I said, the truth is I rushed it, I had upgraded to testing from stable and then tried to upgrade to sid, but it was a reciepe for disaster, lol.
Either way, I saw the dependency chaos happening, I was kinda uncertain which package was safe to upgrade (I had installed a debian package to mention buggy apps, but it confused me even more) or if the if any dependencies would change and cause a mess.
I then found nixos with its declarative nature which I found much less confusing and harder to break, so I spent around 4months testing it and then made the transition (this was the first time I was seriously considering transitioning to linux and I took my time to do it thoughtfully)😅
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Mar 16:32
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I don’t daily drive either distro these days but I’ve always found Arch to be more stable than Debian testing. I also just really don’t like apt. I think its pathetic to not have parallel downloads in 2025.
Packages in testing get updated at the times that they can and sometimes this messes with other packages. For example I had pithos installed this morning, in trixie. An upgrade removed a dependency so it had to go. In another day or 3 I will be able to install pithos again, no doubt. Running testing when release is within 9 months since sarge and this is the only issue I have seen. Since it resolves itself, I never saw it as a problem.
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Debian testing is just a small resistance step of future arch users still scared to distrohop
It’s kinda how I ended up with nixos
Wanted a stable and cool system, so went with debian stable.
But stable was outdated for my taste, so I went to testing.
But testing had missing packets, so I tried to update to unstable, though I did it badly and crashed my system.
After resinstalling testing, I tried to make a semi-failed script to autodownload/update apps outside the debian repo, but I found out that nixos essentially did this, in fact much better. And I accidentally deleted my /usr/bin/ dir with that script, so I eventually went with nixos unstable:)
Bath water … baby ?
I mean, the logical step is to go to Debian
sid, which, despite its alternative nameunstable, is really not. I’ve been running a gaming rig on it for over a year with nothing more than vey vey minor hiccups, mostly because I’m impatient and runapt full-upgradefrequently.As I said, the truth is I rushed it, I had upgraded to testing from stable and then tried to upgrade to sid, but it was a reciepe for disaster, lol.
Either way, I saw the dependency chaos happening, I was kinda uncertain which package was safe to upgrade (I had installed a debian package to mention buggy apps, but it confused me even more) or if the if any dependencies would change and cause a mess.
I then found nixos with its declarative nature which I found much less confusing and harder to break, so I spent around 4months testing it and then made the transition (this was the first time I was seriously considering transitioning to linux and I took my time to do it thoughtfully)😅
I don’t daily drive either distro these days but I’ve always found Arch to be more stable than Debian testing. I also just really don’t like apt. I think its pathetic to not have parallel downloads in 2025.
finally someone saying you shouldn’t daily drive debian testing
Packages in testing get updated at the times that they can and sometimes this messes with other packages. For example I had pithos installed this morning, in trixie. An upgrade removed a dependency so it had to go. In another day or 3 I will be able to install pithos again, no doubt. Running testing when release is within 9 months since sarge and this is the only issue I have seen. Since it resolves itself, I never saw it as a problem.