Where did the "Plasma" in KDE Plasma come from, and why do many people say that with or instead of just KDE?
from 97xBang@feddit.online to linux@lemmy.ml on 06 Feb 13:51
https://feddit.online/post/321781
from 97xBang@feddit.online to linux@lemmy.ml on 06 Feb 13:51
https://feddit.online/post/321781
It’s always been just KDE to me. In the past year or so, I’ve noticed people calling Plasma KDE or even just Plasma. What happened? Why do people insist on making the name longer? Why the word Plasma? What is Plasma referring to? And, are they trying to move away from the KDE name to just Plasma?
Answer: Plasma is the desktop environment. KDE is the community that makes Plasma and many other related software.
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i think plasma is just the shell that KDE develops. KDE also develops the other programs that are included in the desktop environment, like dolphin and konsole.
I think it was the name of the new desktop concept introduced with KDE 4 and then got synonymous with the whole DE
Not just synonymous, it the official name of DE itself.
KDE is a community of developers.
KDE Plasma is the desktop environment made by the KDE community.
This has been the correct terminology since 2009, much longer than “the past year or so”, but a lot of people do still call KDE Plasma just “KDE” colloquially, so maybe you have just been noticing people using the correct terminology more recently.
Kids these days and their “Plasma”. BACK IN MY DAY it was just KDE!
I’m not sure why this feels new to me. Perhaps it’s because I spent a lot of time on other DEs after 2009.
But also, from that link:
So I don’t feel like it’s wrong to just call it KDE, just imprecise.
Since sometime around Plasma 4, KDE has been the name of the organization and Plasma had been the name of the desktop.
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Plasma is currently the name of the Desktop Environment made by KDE.
KDE refers to the umbrella project that houses all the software made for Plasma, like KDE Connect and Kdenlive. The name used to refer to the desktop environment; but now they develop more stuff than the desktop environment.
KDE is the name of the overall community. They produce Plasma which is the desktop, frameworks and applications.
I have no idea about the history behind this but I assume it has to do with the abbreviation DE being inside KDE. I could see how that makes people think that KDE is the DE, and not the community that develops Plasma.
The issue is that it was the DE originally, some people (myself included) just didn’t fully get the memo when it changed like 15 or so years ago. I haven’t used the KDE DE since before that change, so I get how it could be missed. Rebranding is hard, even years later. I am sure many people think KFC still stands for Kentucky Fried Chicken too.
Well KDE used to stand for K Desktop Environment as a rif off of CDE Common Desktop Environment. They named kde 4 plasma when kde was overhauled during that release. Since kde does much more than just the DE they moved to just be KDE stands for KDE like how KFC no longer stands for Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Was it 4? I thought it came around for the 5 release. I think I switched DEs for almost the entire 4 debacle then switched back at 5 when it stopped sucking.
Edit: NM, I see I just missed it by skipping 4: dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand/
Ah KDE netbook when the world thought that was going to be an ongoing thing. It’s a shame MS killed the concept. Linux powered Netbooks like the OLPC and the Eeepc were great for on the go when you just need more than your phone. I’m still glad OLPC is still around.
Ha, yes, I remember pretty much the entire Linux community dropped KDE 4. What a time for a rebranding.
The “K” stood for “Kool”
Yeah I think that was dropped to just K before the release of 1.0.
It’s super confusing because “KDE” is literally the acronym for “K Desktop Environment”.
Wait until you learn what “GNU” stands for.
WINE would like to join the party
I have an irrational fear of this acronym. I think I’m worried I might accidentally recurse forever, and that will become the only thing I do for the rest of my existence.
All I know is it’s not Unix.
I thought it stood for “Kool Desktop Environment”
Yes, that was the original name, back in the 90’s.
Everyone here sorta answers the questions but not entirely. So KDE started back in the 1990s as K Desktop Environment as a play on the Common Desktop Environment. The K was originally suggested as standing for Kool buy I guess others in project didn’t think that was very kool and it was left officially as just K.
As to why Plasma - when KDE 4 was released, “Plasma” replaced Kdesktop shell and whatnot and was named Plasma because plasma evokes dynamic fluidity like plasma or some such lol. Unfortunately I can’t find anything easily on the interwebs that shows how it got it’s name :/
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Because the “kde” package is a meta-package that has all the utilities of a KDE-install too, while the “plasma” package has only the desktop.