It’s really not as tough as it’s made out, try something like Endeavour for all the “Arch” but with some sane defaults. The hardest thing is learning a new package manager, but Arch’s is called pacman and it looks like Pac-Man, so you get extra whimsy!
judgyweevil@feddit.it
on 13 Jun 22:08
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It would be the “Corporate needs you to find the difference” meme
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Jun 20:05
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Every time I’m forced to use Windows it feels like I’m being punished.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
on 13 Jun 21:22
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It sounds so dramatic and I know people roll their eyes when I say things like that, but it’s absolutely true.
The deeper I’ve gone with Linux over the years the more Windows seems (aside from the obvious privacy concerns and generally being trash corporate citizens) like an intentionally convoluted and overcomplicated mess.
terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Jun 22:47
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Win11 is like 30% ai code iirc
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
on 14 Jun 00:18
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Mac is actually nice to use though… My wife has one and it was my first exposure to them.
As a lifelong Windows user, I recall vividly asking myself “why am I not being abused by random pop ups and an overly complicated process to achieve basic things right now?” over and over while working on her machine.
Plus their graphical interface is a pleasure to work with once you get past some of its quirks. If I wasn’t already happily on Linux I would definitely move to Mac.
It may only be possible to say so because I have not used windows in 20ish years, but I find mac to be completely horrible.
Super slow. Even the arm ones, to switch to the workspace where my vscode windows are takes like 4 seconds, starting bash (I have gone through my bashrc like 10 times) takes several seconds. After a boot it takes minutes before everything is loaded in the settings, meaning some settings are not available directly after boot (why is the settings window modular and dynamic like that?)
The mouse speed and accelleration just feels like I’m stuck in butter. I have made some config change outside of the settings to speed up the mouse, but I have to reboot to make them take effect is insane. Accelleration is suppose to be off, but that disgusting buttery feeling is still there. If I switch to linux it is not.
They had an update where they broke ssh. They fucking broke ssh for like two months. How the fuck am I suppose to work on it?
Not having a proper distinction between left and right opt/cmd/control which makes adapting keyboard layout to your personal workflow hard as shit.
You have to like click everything and random shit grabs the window focus all the time. So many times I have switched workspace or something and it displayed it but the focus is still left on the laptop or something. Randomly you have to click on a window instead of just using a keybind to get there.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
on 13 Jun 20:28
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Performative and dirt-on-lips pilled.
I use arch btw.
mesamunefire@piefed.social
on 13 Jun 20:59
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I use windows at work. even WSL doesn't make it great....
Half the time, we dont even deploy to windows boxes. They are too expensive haha. Its all Linux cause they are much cheaper and just as powerful. But mostly the cheaper angle. Still wont let us use Linux for development work though...
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 00:29
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That’s so weird, tons of people use Linux for dev. Do they say why you can’t?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 00:27
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First thing I noticed about this photo is that she’s holding her hair away from the ground while putting her mouth right on it. I’m not sure why but that seems funny to me.
Windows has it’s upsides imo. My personal problem is that I’m so bad at using it… Set static IP? Traverse down four different GUI applications all the way back to Windows NT -_-
No! Don’t take the fall for what Windows forces you to do. Creating a billion GUI menus for users to get through before reaching what they really want to reach was Microsoft’s choice, not yours.
If you have to use Windows and you’re power-userish enough to go setting up static IPs, it might be worth learning a bit of PowerShell. You can do everything with it!
>Be me
>Build new PC
>"Maybe I’ll try out Linux. "
>Fairly popular 2 year old Motherboard
>Integrated WiFi Module no drivers available
>Integrated Bluetooth Module no drivers available
>No support for $170 Sound Card
>4 hours of troubleshooting later
>Linux more bloated with dependencies and packages from troubleshooting than your grandmas browser extensions
>“Fuck this”
>Nuke Partition
>Install Windows
>Shit instantly just works
>Use Linux partition drive for backups
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
on 14 Jun 19:43
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did you try and use Arch?
i’ve only ever had to fuck around with wifi drivers when installing Arch
Everytime i’ve installed ubuntu on a laptop it’s worked fine out of the box, including on the same laptop i had to fuck around with drivers on for Arch
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 20:40
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I love Arch, but it is not for beginners. WiFi and Bluetooth are both sketchy. Or, at least, they used to be.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
on 14 Jun 20:54
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i settled on Manjaro in the end for my desktop PCs. it has the flexibility of Arch including use of the AUR but i don’t have to put much effort into setting it up
No, but apparently I have one of the only WiFi/Bluetooth chip of MediaTek Corps. MT Series that is inexplicably not supported. Most others of that lineup are, just this exact one isn’t.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
on 15 Jun 07:53
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i learned from my recent incursion into setting up a concept ubuntu build for snapdragon laptops that you can pull binaries from the windows partition to make the wifi drivers work
The MT7902 WiFi/Bluetooth Chip by Mediatek Corp. does not (and probably never will) have any official driver support. There are some unsuccessful community attempts to get it working, but nobody actually managed to pull it off.
G6 Soundcard works for simple pass-through but SBX features aren’t natively enabled, you need a Windows install with Soundblaster Connect to enable the functionality and load the settings into the onboard memory of the card.
Linux “supports” Dolby Atmos but it sound mostly like dogwater if not combined with Atmos mixed audio.
ulterno@programming.dev
on 14 Jun 19:27
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I find it hard to understand how people are able to kiss the ground without the thought getting in their mind that - someone probably spat/pissed in that place not too long ago.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
on 14 Jun 19:44
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This was in the desert in texas wasn’t it?
good chance nobody has been in that particular spot for a long time
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 20:37
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If they aren’t worried about dirt, I doubt that they’re gonna be worried about spit or piss.
candyman337@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 19:32
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Genuinely, the more I use Linux the more slow and clunky windows feels. Also I’m a power user, when you install custom apps on windows it FEELS bloated, it’s like “you didn’t do this the WINDOWS way, so it’s clunky” meanwhile on Linux it’s like “yeah man it’s open just plug in whatever” and it JUST WORKS
blackstampede@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 19:39
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Doesn’t matter if you did do it the windows way, honestly. Anything of any scale programmed in .NET has runtime reflection scattered everywhere, and that shit adds up.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
on 14 Jun 19:40
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bought one of the new snapdragon x elite laptops recently. obviously it came with windows 11 and i had to briefly use it to shrink the boot partition and disable bitlocker so i could install the ubuntu concept image on it.
The amount of advertising i was subjected to in that time was infuriating. not to mention the frankly arduous setup wizard.
Even with the slight bugginess of a “concept image” OS, the user experience is SOOOO much better than shitty horrible windows.
10 years ago I wouldn’t have imagined this, but this is me every time I have to use Windows (e.g., occasionally for work) or help someone else with it.
threaded - newest
Yeah that seems about right. Bunch of things that I wish were better but I am not going back. When I absolutely must there’s a VM for that.
Could a similar meme be made between distributions?
Anyone after trying Ubuntu. Anyone after trying a tiling manager.
I like the idea of tiling window managers – I just find it so much less hassle to use tiling keybinds on a stacking window manager …
I can do the exact same thing in gnome without having to config for days lol. Super key right super up. I agree with you!
For me, it’s after trying a non tiling WM. I’m too deep into i3 (now Sway) + tmux.
For me, it’s after trying a non tiling WM. I’m too deep into i3 (now Sway) + tmux.
Arch users switching back to Arch after 10 minutes of using Ubuntu:
Alternatively:
Ubuntu users switching back to Ubuntu after using Arch for ten minutes
Or at the very least Debian.
I haven’t tried Arch, the whole idea gives me fever.
It’s really not as tough as it’s made out, try something like Endeavour for all the “Arch” but with some sane defaults. The hardest thing is learning a new package manager, but Arch’s is called pacman and it looks like Pac-Man, so you get extra whimsy!
It would be the “Corporate needs you to find the difference” meme
Me when coming back to a system without NetworkManager
systemd-networkd
Every time I’m forced to use Windows it feels like I’m being punished.
It sounds so dramatic and I know people roll their eyes when I say things like that, but it’s absolutely true.
The deeper I’ve gone with Linux over the years the more Windows seems (aside from the obvious privacy concerns and generally being trash corporate citizens) like an intentionally convoluted and overcomplicated mess.
Win11 is like 30% ai code iirc
😬
Just put it in a VM. Keep it contained.
More like being molested.
After a day at work, forced to use mac, I just have to start my linux machine, even if I do not have anything to do on it, just to feel sane again.
Man idk I find Mac at least functions intuitively. Windows is just endless pop ups and pain.
Mac is actually nice to use though… My wife has one and it was my first exposure to them.
As a lifelong Windows user, I recall vividly asking myself “why am I not being abused by random pop ups and an overly complicated process to achieve basic things right now?” over and over while working on her machine.
Plus their graphical interface is a pleasure to work with once you get past some of its quirks. If I wasn’t already happily on Linux I would definitely move to Mac.
It may only be possible to say so because I have not used windows in 20ish years, but I find mac to be completely horrible.
Super slow. Even the arm ones, to switch to the workspace where my vscode windows are takes like 4 seconds, starting bash (I have gone through my bashrc like 10 times) takes several seconds. After a boot it takes minutes before everything is loaded in the settings, meaning some settings are not available directly after boot (why is the settings window modular and dynamic like that?)
The mouse speed and accelleration just feels like I’m stuck in butter. I have made some config change outside of the settings to speed up the mouse, but I have to reboot to make them take effect is insane. Accelleration is suppose to be off, but that disgusting buttery feeling is still there. If I switch to linux it is not.
They had an update where they broke ssh. They fucking broke ssh for like two months. How the fuck am I suppose to work on it?
Not having a proper distinction between left and right opt/cmd/control which makes adapting keyboard layout to your personal workflow hard as shit.
You have to like click everything and random shit grabs the window focus all the time. So many times I have switched workspace or something and it displayed it but the focus is still left on the laptop or something. Randomly you have to click on a window instead of just using a keybind to get there.
Performative and dirt-on-lips pilled.
I use arch btw.
I use windows at work. even WSL doesn't make it great....
Half the time, we dont even deploy to windows boxes. They are too expensive haha. Its all Linux cause they are much cheaper and just as powerful. But mostly the cheaper angle. Still wont let us use Linux for development work though...
That’s so weird, tons of people use Linux for dev. Do they say why you can’t?
According to one of our adjuncts: “Windows just works for dev, why are we teaching Linux at all?”
He didn’t last.
Maybe if you develop C# in Visual Studio then Windows does just work best.
In my companys case, they said it was an issue with intune compatibility for a good while. I’m hoping to switch off W11 soon!
I can’t deal with that picture of Katty Perry kissing dirt.
“I kissed some dirt and I like it…” xD
First thing I noticed about this photo is that she’s holding her hair away from the ground while putting her mouth right on it. I’m not sure why but that seems funny to me.
maybe getting it out the way so the cameras can see it?
That would explain it.
Your logic has no place in the internet. Begone!
Maybe she’s used to pull her hair back in this position out of habit?
“I don’t care if I get dirt in my mouth, but I better not get it in my hair.”
Just came back to Debian on my gaming rig after a 4 year hiatus, I’ve missed it.
I had to click 4 times over 90 seconds on “sleep” on my work laptop windows 11 machine today before it actually did anything.
A meme can’t be more right.
That’s the AI code at work there.
Windows has it’s upsides imo. My personal problem is that I’m so bad at using it… Set static IP? Traverse down four different GUI applications all the way back to Windows NT -_-
No! Don’t take the fall for what Windows forces you to do. Creating a billion GUI menus for users to get through before reaching what they really want to reach was Microsoft’s choice, not yours.
If you have to use Windows and you’re power-userish enough to go setting up static IPs, it might be worth learning a bit of PowerShell. You can do everything with it!
I switch back to it to play half life alyx which I borrowed, otherwise usually it’s sitting in a virtual machine (its corner)
HL Alyx has no problems running on Linux
>Be me
>Build new PC
>"Maybe I’ll try out Linux. "
>Fairly popular 2 year old Motherboard
>Integrated WiFi Module no drivers available
>Integrated Bluetooth Module no drivers available
>No support for $170 Sound Card
>4 hours of troubleshooting later
>Linux more bloated with dependencies and packages from troubleshooting than your grandmas browser extensions
>“Fuck this”
>Nuke Partition
>Install Windows
>Shit instantly just works
>Use Linux partition drive for backups
did you try and use Arch?
i’ve only ever had to fuck around with wifi drivers when installing Arch
Everytime i’ve installed ubuntu on a laptop it’s worked fine out of the box, including on the same laptop i had to fuck around with drivers on for Arch
I love Arch, but it is not for beginners. WiFi and Bluetooth are both sketchy. Or, at least, they used to be.
i settled on Manjaro in the end for my desktop PCs. it has the flexibility of Arch including use of the AUR but i don’t have to put much effort into setting it up
No, but apparently I have one of the only WiFi/Bluetooth chip of MediaTek Corps. MT Series that is inexplicably not supported. Most others of that lineup are, just this exact one isn’t.
i learned from my recent incursion into setting up a concept ubuntu build for snapdragon laptops that you can pull binaries from the windows partition to make the wifi drivers work
Buy good hardware next time
Namedrop the mobo and soundcard
The MT7902 WiFi/Bluetooth Chip by Mediatek Corp. does not (and probably never will) have any official driver support. There are some unsuccessful community attempts to get it working, but nobody actually managed to pull it off.
G6 Soundcard works for simple pass-through but SBX features aren’t natively enabled, you need a Windows install with Soundblaster Connect to enable the functionality and load the settings into the onboard memory of the card.
Linux “supports” Dolby Atmos but it sound mostly like dogwater if not combined with Atmos mixed audio.
I find it hard to understand how people are able to kiss the ground without the thought getting in their mind that - someone probably spat/pissed in that place not too long ago.
This was in the desert in texas wasn’t it?
good chance nobody has been in that particular spot for a long time
If they aren’t worried about dirt, I doubt that they’re gonna be worried about spit or piss.
Genuinely, the more I use Linux the more slow and clunky windows feels. Also I’m a power user, when you install custom apps on windows it FEELS bloated, it’s like “you didn’t do this the WINDOWS way, so it’s clunky” meanwhile on Linux it’s like “yeah man it’s open just plug in whatever” and it JUST WORKS
Doesn’t matter if you did do it the windows way, honestly. Anything of any scale programmed in .NET has runtime reflection scattered everywhere, and that shit adds up.
bought one of the new snapdragon x elite laptops recently. obviously it came with windows 11 and i had to briefly use it to shrink the boot partition and disable bitlocker so i could install the ubuntu concept image on it.
The amount of advertising i was subjected to in that time was infuriating. not to mention the frankly arduous setup wizard.
Even with the slight bugginess of a “concept image” OS, the user experience is SOOOO much better than shitty horrible windows.
Sent from my HP OmniBook running NOT windows
10 years ago I wouldn’t have imagined this, but this is me every time I have to use Windows (e.g., occasionally for work) or help someone else with it.