This week in KDE: real fake session restore (pointieststick.com)
from OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml to linux@lemmy.ml on 24 Feb 2024 14:04
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semperverus@lemmy.world on 24 Feb 2024 15:56 next collapse

Ohhh jeeez Rick

tsonfeir@lemm.ee on 24 Feb 2024 17:44 next collapse

I wonder if you took all the development time that went into the fake way, and put it into the real way, would the real way be finished by now?

carzian@lemmy.ml on 24 Feb 2024 18:08 next collapse

The “real” way needs the corresponding Wayland protocol in order to work. The protocol is under development/review, but involves a lot more moving parts that requires coordination and approval from multiple people. This “fake” way was able to be implemented faster and by fewer people as a stop-gap measure

tsonfeir@lemm.ee on 24 Feb 2024 20:19 collapse

Sounds efficient…

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 25 Feb 2024 00:39 collapse

When you want a standard to take hold you gotta do it the hard way. You can’t just cowboy it like you can with the fake version. (Not meaning to disparage the fake version, mind you.)

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 2024 09:38 collapse

Ah, Schrödinger’s desktop development.

Refuse to implement something until there’s a robust open standard to use it with, without hacky workarounds, a la Gnome? Get shat on for not implementing a feature immediately.

Implement something quickly, but in a hacky roundabout way, hoping a standard comes soon and you can phase out your sub-optimal solution, a la KDE? Get shat on for wasting time on a solution that will be short-lived.

qaz@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 06:12 collapse

Get shat on for wasting time on a solution that will be short-lived.

Well, nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution

0oWow@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 2024 03:02 next collapse

Still no fix for the confused half-rounded, half-squared window decoration? Looks tacky.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 25 Feb 2024 03:12 next collapse

Which one are you referring to?

leopold@lemmy.kde.social on 25 Feb 2024 04:31 next collapse

presumably the default Breeze decorations

0oWow@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 2024 14:50 collapse

Breeze.

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 25 Feb 2024 16:53 collapse

You can select different window decorations.

0oWow@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 2024 19:36 collapse

They don’t work as well with Firefox, and with window decoration shadows. Also, rounded window decorations that are out there don’t do Firefox well. (I get that that’s also on Mozilla some).

Ephera@lemmy.ml on 26 Feb 2024 01:46 collapse

Well, those sound more like issues that should be fixed. You not liking the way Breeze looks, is not a bug…

leopold@lemmy.kde.social on 26 Feb 2024 16:32 collapse

Firefox uses CSD by default, so that isn’t an issue that can be fixed (unless you turn off the CSD in Firefox’s settings).

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 25 Feb 2024 09:44 collapse

I’m so glad that work is being done on session restore on Plasma. So many of my issues with Plasma have been fixed over the years, but this one has always been a big showstopper for me.

Kwin crashing and taking everything down with it is not something I want to happen on my work machine. Most of KDE’s bugs I could deal with, but not that one. Losing hours of work is an absolute no-go.

Session restore is probably the biggest thing that I’ve been looking forward to for Plasma 6

I’m still not sure it’ll become the desktop I’ll use all the time, but I’m wanting to give it a try again to see how it goes.