Its just because Fedora tries to focus on new technology, if you dont like that, choose another distro.
maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world
on 04 Jul 16:06
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Everyone said that about Wayland a decade ago…
data1701d@startrek.website
on 04 Jul 17:49
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And that is still largely true - I’m still running XFCE with xorg on Debian, and I think the only issue I’ve had was Waydroid.
Will there come a day where what you say is true? Yes.
However, right now, a more apt example to convey your point is systemd; that’s true for most distros with a lot of community support. Even then, its hold isn’t absolute - Alpine seems like the most livable non-systemd distro, though I could be wrong.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 04 Jul 17:34
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As I’ve commented elsewhere on this post and others have said, this is a change that affects pretty much no one. I didn’t even know MBR (legacy BIOS) partition tables on UEFI boot was possible, honestly.
By no longer putting in the effort to maintain this bit that no one uses, work can be put to something someone uses.
Also, with Linux, specific distros can get encrapified (kind of happened to Ubuntu), but as others have said, there’s usually always another distro to jump to at worst.
I was wondering too why anyone would ever want this…but the proposal explains it:
Support for UEFI on MBR was originally added in blivet#764 to accommodate cloud image use cases, such as AWS, which at the time did not support UEFI booting on GPT disks. These constraints no longer apply to modern cloud platforms, making MBR-based UEFI setups unnecessary for current Fedora deployments.
So basically it was some workaround a few years ago. I have a hard time to see any reason speaking against the removal.
maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world
on 04 Jul 16:03
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Users move on from Windows because of old hardware compatibility, pick an easy to use distro, like Fedora. Fedora drops old hardware compatibility…
It’s their second attempt in under a month. Red Hat needs to sit the fuck down.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Jul 16:07
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Rhel and Fedora are separate entities and work on their own, but they do influence each other.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 04 Jul 17:00
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As much as I resonate with the issues, in this case, this isn’t what they’re doing at all.
This drops support only for UEFI on the MBR partition scheme typically used by a BIOS setup, which I honestly didn’t even know was possible.
This ends support for no hardware - almost all distro installations on UEFI have defaulted to GPT partition tables for a long time.
I’d say look in a mirror and sit down, as you entirely don’t understand this proposal. This is not something that impacts old hardware.
wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 04 Jul 16:52
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Since when is UEFI old? Wtf
data1701d@startrek.website
on 04 Jul 16:56
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That’s not what this is saying.
It’s only support for UEFI on the old MBR partition table - GPT partitioning has been the default for ages now.
data1701d@startrek.website
on 04 Jul 17:27
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For those panicking about it, this is not something you need to worry about. Here’s what this actually does:
Enforce the use of GPT partition tables for all UEFI-based Fedora installations for x86 architecture. This removes support for installing Fedora in UEFI mode on MBR-partitioned disks on x86 systems
You probably have already been using GPT on your UEFI system since you had a UEFI system. Even if you somehow were using MBR, this probably;
Won’t break existing installations, as it’s merely support for installs of this type
Would not be a problem even if somehow the broke existing installs, as it’s not difficult to convert MBR to GPT.
ThreeEelsInABaseballJersey@piefed.blahaj.zone
on 04 Jul 19:42
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love all the folks getting annoyed by this who clearly didn't read the actual proposal
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So less functionality is better?
Linux is getting enshittified.
it’s just fedora and, even then, because of ibm’s acquisition of red hat.
money and american hegemony have tried to enshitify linux many times in the past; but linux keeps on chugging along anyways.
Its just because Fedora tries to focus on new technology, if you dont like that, choose another distro.
Everyone said that about Wayland a decade ago…
And that is still largely true - I’m still running XFCE with xorg on Debian, and I think the only issue I’ve had was Waydroid.
Will there come a day where what you say is true? Yes.
However, right now, a more apt example to convey your point is systemd; that’s true for most distros with a lot of community support. Even then, its hold isn’t absolute - Alpine seems like the most livable non-systemd distro, though I could be wrong.
As I’ve commented elsewhere on this post and others have said, this is a change that affects pretty much no one. I didn’t even know MBR (legacy BIOS) partition tables on UEFI boot was possible, honestly.
By no longer putting in the effort to maintain this bit that no one uses, work can be put to something someone uses.
Also, with Linux, specific distros can get encrapified (kind of happened to Ubuntu), but as others have said, there’s usually always another distro to jump to at worst.
Tell me you don’t understand what you read without telling me.
What a stupid take.
Was it even a thing? I remember I had to choose MBR for legacy BOOT, GPT for UEFI.
I was wondering too why anyone would ever want this…but the proposal explains it:
So basically it was some workaround a few years ago. I have a hard time to see any reason speaking against the removal.
Users move on from Windows because of old hardware compatibility, pick an easy to use distro, like Fedora. Fedora drops old hardware compatibility…
It’s their second attempt in under a month. Red Hat needs to sit the fuck down.
Rhel and Fedora are separate entities and work on their own, but they do influence each other.
As much as I resonate with the issues, in this case, this isn’t what they’re doing at all.
This drops support only for UEFI on the MBR partition scheme typically used by a BIOS setup, which I honestly didn’t even know was possible.
This ends support for no hardware - almost all distro installations on UEFI have defaulted to GPT partition tables for a long time.
I’d say look in a mirror and sit down, as you entirely don’t understand this proposal. This is not something that impacts old hardware.
Since when is UEFI old? Wtf
That’s not what this is saying.
It’s only support for UEFI on the old MBR partition table - GPT partitioning has been the default for ages now.
For those panicking about it, this is not something you need to worry about. Here’s what this actually does:
You probably have already been using GPT on your UEFI system since you had a UEFI system. Even if you somehow were using MBR, this probably;
love all the folks getting annoyed by this who clearly didn't read the actual proposal