GIMP 2.10.36 Released
(www.gimp.org)
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2023 06:40
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/5968273
from petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2023 06:40
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/5968273
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Are they still using GTK2/Python 2?
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I just hope they don’t use CSDs and let the window manager fully manage the windows.
That’ll be an option you can toggle.
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In X11 it’s server side, and in gnome wayland it’s of course client side, but they look exactly the same as the SSD ones. I doubt they’ll change that between the current beta and the 3.x release.
Gimp 3 uses python 3 as well.
I’ve switched to Gimp 2.99 with GTK3 from Debian Experimental.
Seems stable and bug-free (if a little sluggish) so far.
Edit: Just checked their site. Quote from the release notes of the first 2.99.x release:
That was 3 years ago.
They’ve been completely dropping the ball for years. I used to donate regularly but have completely given up on this project. It’s a farce at this point.
Thankfully I only have simple needs so Krita suffices and I don’t have to deal with the never-improving UX nightmare and never-releasing changes.
Yeah, I’m salty. It’s just that GIMP was a shining star of FOSS and it’s just been slowly rotting from inaction.
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Liberapay shows the number of donors has almost doubled in the last few months (look at “view income history”), so i hope it is an indication that they made good changes to the project management and the future will be better.
Is it because they’re improving, or is it because Adobe keeps pissing people off and donating to GIMP is cheaper than a Photoshop sub?
I don’t actually have any opinion on gimp one way or another, it does what I need it to do.
Ha, reminds me of www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBEAZFP0aA
Glad it suits your needs!
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=dJBEAZFP0aA
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
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That’s good to hear, and I really would love for things to get sorted out. Gimp 3.x has many improvements for sure but there’s a long way to go and actually releasing these improvements is necessary…
If gimp can become another blender that would be incredible.
GIMP really needs its Blender moment.
The reasons are made clear on their roadmap.
The GTK3 port is done, and now they need to finalize the new extension API and improve their color space support (particularly CMYK). It would be nice if Wayland had a color management protocol extension standardized by then, but I don’t think it’s a blocker.
My favorite part about GIMP is that after the thousands and thousands of hours people have spent developing it, it still can’t compete with software from the 1990s, that is to say, it’s complete shit, they should start from scratch at this point, perhaps aiming low like competing against 1990s MS Paint.
There’s no way they could compete with MS Paint today >_>
How does it not compete with MS Paint 😅 What are you on about, mate?
L take. I agree it’s behind modern image manipulation software, but it does almost everything that Photoshop did in the early 2010’s at least. It’s considerably better than current-day paint.
I use gimp daily, but it is still far, far behind photoshop from when I was studying and that was pre 2010.
The biggest problem is the UI. The only major improvement was the transition from multi window to single window with tabs, around 2012 or so.
It feels like using a hammer with a purple dildo for a handle. I can do it after 10 years of getting the hang of swinging around the wobbly thing. Meanwile the rest of the world transitioned to battery driven nailguns and I’m still swinging my dilmer with a slightly more rigid handle.
You forgot the “/s” bro
Yeah, it’s painful to use. Like I want to like it, but Photoshop is just a superior product. Just look at what tools professionals use when time is money.
Wow, thats some wild hyperbole there.
Some harsh comments about GIMP here. I think it’s fantastic. Totally bailed out my workplace when the Adobe Extortion Suite decided break on our machines. I use it at home too and I’m grateful for it.
when single devs can reproduce almost every aspect of Photoshop’s UX, performance, and featureset in projects like photopea.com, I have to have major doubts about whether the GIMP team are doing the right thing by spending years to update the GTK version instead of just rewriting everything from the ground up.
The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was the “3.0 is this year we promise!” post months ago which is increasingly looking like it wasn’t all to be.
Chuck out the technical debt, use a modern language, and build a functional successor without the 90’s baggage. That’s my hot take.
While not the same, Krita, Inkscape and Kdenlive are so far ahead in terms of UX/UI that at this point I won’t ever see a redesign of GIMP.
It’s a shame since it is really powerful, but the UX/UI is holding it back so much.