GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
on 02 Nov 10:11
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Off with your head for supporting the accessibility nightmare that is Wayland :)
SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml
on 03 Nov 16:09
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What do you mean by that? I’ve been using it in Plasma and haven’t had issues with it. Then again my use case might be different.
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
on 03 Nov 16:54
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Do you use screenreaders?
SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml
on 04 Nov 00:49
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I don’t.
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
on 04 Nov 04:11
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I believe that tells enough.
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 02 Nov 21:44
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Other way around
theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
on 03 Nov 16:14
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In my experience, projects going to Wayland actually improves performance and system resource usage. I got around 200Mb RAM back, when I switched from Qtile X11 to Qtile Wayland. 900Mb on XOrg, 700Mb on Wayland. These are with the same configuration and the same programs being autostarted.
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
on 03 Nov 16:55
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Wayland does improve performance but only in some perspectives (for example, UI smoothness). In my case the negative impact looked like CPU overhead. It was easier to make the system stutter and some apps like Firefox worked more sluggishly. I suspect it’s because of how Wayland works fundamentally.
EDIT: you know the society is doomed when it downvotes comments about personal experience.
I highly doubt you can conjure up a Wayland compositor that consumes more than 1% of your CPU, even eye-candy nightmares like Hyprland will not have any significant CPU usage.
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
on 04 Nov 09:43
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I know and htop didn’t show 100% usage either. It just felt like CPU overhead.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Nov 19:17
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please no, XFCE is my last refuge for machines too old to support Wayland
LeFantome@programming.dev
on 02 Nov 21:45
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I am running Wayland on my 2013 MacBook Air. Joe old is your hardware?
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Nov 22:02
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A lot of Wayland compositors have a GLES 2.0 renderer which should be supported by ancient GPUs. If you try Vulkan based compositors you might be out of luck.
Wanted to join the wallpaper contest but it has to be only and only through a Gitlab account, and the requeriments are rather limiting - and, specially, not a fan of contests that are decided by thumbs-up (or heart emojis, like in this case)
threaded - newest
I hope there are a few dank wallpapers for the meme
I ❤️ xfce, dying for Wayland. Wish I knew how to ninja together xfce Wayland. As most apps are now compatible.
Xfce is mostly used on older hardware. Dying to see how many times slower it’ll become on Wayland. I’m guessing 3x.
Why should it be slower?
Because I tried Wayland vs X11 on older hardware and sometimes it was noticeably slower?
blasphemy! Off with ur head! 🤣
Off with your head for supporting the accessibility nightmare that is Wayland :)
What do you mean by that? I’ve been using it in Plasma and haven’t had issues with it. Then again my use case might be different.
Do you use screenreaders?
I don’t.
I believe that tells enough.
Other way around
In my experience, projects going to Wayland actually improves performance and system resource usage. I got around 200Mb RAM back, when I switched from Qtile X11 to Qtile Wayland. 900Mb on XOrg, 700Mb on Wayland. These are with the same configuration and the same programs being autostarted.
Wayland does improve performance but only in some perspectives (for example, UI smoothness). In my case the negative impact looked like CPU overhead. It was easier to make the system stutter and some apps like Firefox worked more sluggishly. I suspect it’s because of how Wayland works fundamentally.
EDIT: you know the society is doomed when it downvotes comments about personal experience.
I highly doubt you can conjure up a Wayland compositor that consumes more than 1% of your CPU, even eye-candy nightmares like Hyprland will not have any significant CPU usage.
I know and htop didn’t show 100% usage either. It just felt like CPU overhead.
please no, XFCE is my last refuge for machines too old to support Wayland
I am running Wayland on my 2013 MacBook Air. Joe old is your hardware?
GTS 450 lol
If I am not mistaken the GTS 450 should be more than powerful enough especially by Linux standards.
A lot of Wayland compositors have a GLES 2.0 renderer which should be supported by ancient GPUs. If you try Vulkan based compositors you might be out of luck.
you understand that you can still use x11 with KDE or gnome right?
They’re not killing X11 support, don’t worry. They’re just expanding to Wayland support.
Wait but it hasn’t been 2 years yet!
IIRC, they expect to have it released in the first half of December if there are no issues or delays.
Blaze it
did they release a changelog?
Wanted to join the wallpaper contest but it has to be only and only through a Gitlab account, and the requeriments are rather limiting - and, specially, not a fan of contests that are decided by thumbs-up (or heart emojis, like in this case)