In my case I already tried to contribute to OpenSUSE, but to keep interest I want to be able to daily drive it. But for now there is a significant number of blockers that prevent me from doing this.
First, the unconfigured default state where Root and only him can do privilegied talks. OpenSUSE is the only distro, to my knowledge, to leave Sudo unconfigured. This result in asking for root password for literally any task. And even once Sudo had been properly configured, Polkit rules are so tight you need to type Root password for many thing more user friendly distroes like Fedora and Ubuntu execute without asking for any password.
And the bloat of the packages patterns are horrible. The base install comes with multiple softwares that are either usefull to almost no one, or that do the same thing as other does. Like xterm installed alongside Gnome Terminal by default, or tigervnc and Gnome Connexion.
It is horrible enough for me to have started my own repositories on OBS to be able to remove some of this bloat by building my own preconfigured package and less bloated patters.
wallmenis@lemmy.one
on 15 Sep 2023 09:02
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Debian also doesn’t configure root by default
Dremor@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 09:53
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I didt try Debian tbh.
But what do you mean by not configuring root? Not configuring the root user password?
ikidd@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 14:36
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If you don’t put in a root password, it disables root and installs sudo.
Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org
on 15 Sep 2023 10:19
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It’s been a while but I seem to remember the YaST Security Center having different profiles that loosened some of the odd polkit rules. I think there is also a section in the installer but it is easy to miss as it was a clickable link in the summary.
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In my case I already tried to contribute to OpenSUSE, but to keep interest I want to be able to daily drive it. But for now there is a significant number of blockers that prevent me from doing this.
First, the unconfigured default state where Root and only him can do privilegied talks. OpenSUSE is the only distro, to my knowledge, to leave Sudo unconfigured. This result in asking for root password for literally any task. And even once Sudo had been properly configured, Polkit rules are so tight you need to type Root password for many thing more user friendly distroes like Fedora and Ubuntu execute without asking for any password.
And the bloat of the packages patterns are horrible. The base install comes with multiple softwares that are either usefull to almost no one, or that do the same thing as other does. Like xterm installed alongside Gnome Terminal by default, or tigervnc and Gnome Connexion.
It is horrible enough for me to have started my own repositories on OBS to be able to remove some of this bloat by building my own preconfigured package and less bloated patters.
Debian also doesn’t configure root by default
I didt try Debian tbh.
But what do you mean by not configuring root? Not configuring the root user password?
If you don’t put in a root password, it disables root and installs sudo.
No i mean not configuring sudo when there is a root password in there.
You mean sudo? If you leave root password empty during install, it will install sudo
It would be nice if they gave the option of root enabled AND sudo at install, though.
True, but tbh this barely matters except the fact it’s very easy to miss during the install
Didn’t know that! Ty!
It’s been a while but I seem to remember the YaST Security Center having different profiles that loosened some of the odd polkit rules. I think there is also a section in the installer but it is easy to miss as it was a clickable link in the summary.
I saw it, selected the loosest one, still way too overbearing.