Ubuntu Core Desktop Delayed, Won't Be Released in April (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)
from pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to linux@lemmy.ml on 08 Feb 2024 23:07
https://lemmy.ndlug.org/post/680413

Ubuntu Core Desktop will not be released alongside Ubuntu 24.04 LTS in April, as originally hoped.

Canonical doesn’t go into details about what specific issues need resolving. One imagines, given that the first Ubuntu Core Desktop release was going to be a preview and not a recommended download, it’s a myriad bugs/difficulties — ones not easily sorted.

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flathead@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 23:47 next collapse

It was nice while it lasted. Moved to MX.

BitingChaos@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 01:38 next collapse

“Canonical announced it was building an all-snap, immutable version of Ubuntu for home users called Ubuntu Core Desktop.”

I don’t like the sound of this.

DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca on 09 Feb 2024 02:09 next collapse

Yeah, it sounds like the desktop version of an Iphone.

ProtonBadger@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 02:43 collapse

I don't believe iOS and Android use immutable filesystems to the extent some Linux distros do, like openSuse Aeon, Fedora Silverblue, Nixos, etc. iOS and Android just make it more difficult to gain root access.

JWBananas@startrek.website on 09 Feb 2024 06:22 collapse

They do. By default the system partition is straight up mounted read-only.

djsaskdja@reddthat.com on 09 Feb 2024 02:18 next collapse

Sounds exactly like the Snap version of Fedora Silverblue. Which is actually pretty great.

sugartits@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 06:05 collapse

If only snap packages weren’t utter garbage and the authors actually tested them before pushing them out.

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Feb 2024 06:40 collapse

“Test it in production.”

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 11 Feb 2024 04:47 collapse

Ah yes, the Microsoft way.

AbidanYre@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 02:44 next collapse

I can only imagine what a call to ‘mount’ is going to look like.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 09 Feb 2024 05:29 collapse

There might be a delay

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 12:15 collapse

Probably should have not liked Fedora Silverblue either? Or is it just illogical hivemind hatred?

ursakhiin@beehaw.org on 09 Feb 2024 01:50 next collapse

My money is on its not pushing Pro hard enough.

hperrin@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 02:46 next collapse

I guess I have a little while longer to migrate all my servers to a new OS.

Edit: oh this is for home users. Well, it’s only a matter of time before this is rolled out to Ubuntu Server.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Feb 2024 02:57 next collapse

Fuck Canonical anyway.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 04:58 collapse

Canonical still does more for the Linux desktop than most of us ever have or ever will

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Feb 2024 06:07 collapse

Agreed.

Neverless, fuck Canonical.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 12:16 collapse

Now proceed to do something for Linux.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 10 Feb 2024 22:58 collapse

I do. I send in bug reports when I run into one, and try to provide details and context appropriate to the problem. I don’t know how to code, so that’s about as much as I can do.

Just because Canonical has done something right doesn’t mean they are immune to blame for doing something wrong, and they have done some shit.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 11 Feb 2024 06:20 collapse

Canonical has done something

Linux is mainstream solely because of Canonical/Ubuntu. End of story. No, there was no WINE or Valve doing that, they were only supplemental over time.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Feb 2024 22:04 collapse

Yes, I believe I did acknowledge that. Doesn’t mean they’re immune to blame for shit they did wrong.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 11 Feb 2024 22:26 collapse

And what is this “shit” thing they did? Snaps are technically superior to the beloved Flatpaks in Linux community.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Feb 2024 23:31 collapse

Increasing analytics over time, that bullshit decision around 2015/6 to give an option to connect all your accounts to your canonical account, and yes snap. And no it’s not superior because although the frontend is open-source, the backend is still proprietary; that one fact alone is not a dealbreaker necessarily, but it is problematic and I don’t like it.

Now, if the backend were to be made open-source, I would absolutely no problem with snap. I think it is otherwise is a great solution to the problem of fragmentation in the Linux community. But as it is, its increasing adoption is concerning. Closed-source stuff is the antithesis of the foss movement, and the longer it is proprietary the more easily it will be that ill-meaning companies are able to infect the foss landscape with their poison.

You see it as a solution; I see it as a risk.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 2024 05:21 collapse

around 2015/6 to give an option to connect all your accounts to your canonical account

Oh no, an option! Bet you lambast KDE too for their horrific telemetry module, because nobody does it like them. They even include a wallet thing.

yes snap […] Closed-source stuff

Opinion discarded. Snap is not closed source. Canonical’s repo is, but you could have your own snap repo.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Feb 2024 09:36 collapse

Oh no, an option!

Just the fact that they would consider such a tie-your-identity-to-a-corporation idea for a open operating system (in addition to the increasing telemetry baked into the distro itself) is concerning.

Bet you lambast KDE too for their horrific telemetry module, because nobody does it like them. They even include a wallet thing.

Not really. I don’t know anything about KDE.

Snap is not closed source. Canonical’s repo is, but you could have your own snap repo.

Irrelevant. Most people will not resort to using anything but the default repo, and it is, as we agree, proprietary. FOSS is not about walled gardens, controlled by closed licenses; it’s about transparency and fairness.

Opinion discarded.

You know, you’re really starting to be an ass. Fucking chill. I insulted a corporation, not your mother.

GnomeComedy@beehaw.org on 09 Feb 2024 06:08 next collapse

They probably realized snaps are garbage and are still trying to desperately un-garbage them before the release.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 12:14 collapse

Snaps are technically superior to Flatpaks. They allow running sandboxed system integrated programs, a capability no other packaging system has in existence. Cry.

Montagge@kbin.earth on 09 Feb 2024 16:54 next collapse

I'll take snaps over flatpak myself

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 18:51 collapse

My belief is use the appropriate tool for the job, without inserting ideology into it. If I find Flatpak nice, I will use it. Same goes for Snap or AppImage. Linux package method wars are as dumb as Cola Wars or console/smartphone wars.

Montagge@kbin.earth on 09 Feb 2024 20:16 collapse

I do the same but I still have a preference. I agree it's dumb.

fushuan@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 17:55 next collapse

When they fix whatever fever dream du has when using snaps I’ll think about it.

Loucypher@lemmy.ml on 11 Feb 2024 14:41 collapse

Isn’t that also the case for Flatpacks?

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 11 Feb 2024 17:07 collapse

No, Snaps are the only packaging system capable of sandboxing and running system integrated programs.

Loucypher@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 2024 03:28 collapse

Oh you mean for command line applications, yes, Flatpacks cannot do that yet. Personally I manually enable Snaps in the distros I use, as some apps only exist there, but have been orienting myself where I can limit the exposure to only the packages I want.

jamyang@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 06:42 next collapse

Can someone suggest a community for linux noob like me? Installed U-Mate yesterday. I may need an active community specifically created for new users.

moreeni@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 10:42 collapse

This community is full of noobs, feel free to post your questions.

zecg@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 14:20 next collapse

The only reason I’m still using Canonical’s bullshit after they tried to kill Unity, tried to force Snap on me and put ads in the shell is because of Rudra Saraswat. His Ubuntu Unity flavor is really good once you remove snapd.

scratchandgame@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 2024 05:12 collapse

Now you’ve borned so much executable type. Why can’t you release the source code of the software to “make sure there isn’t malware” and pledge and unveil it.