it bothers me immensely that javascript backed Gnome that I can’t make run fluidly and jerklessly on competent desktop hardware is the default on underpowered mobile hardware, making Android and iOS level fluidity practically unattainable in the foreseeable future.
edit: I run pmOS on a SDM845 with 8 GB RAM and fast storage, tried em all on edge (gnome, plasma, phosh, plasma mobile) and it’s a 5 fps stuttering mess. that’s before I load something to said RAM, like a browser or (dog forbid) an electron app.
My Rockchip 3399 powered former Chromebook (now running proper Linux) from 2017 runs Gnome smoothly with Wayland, not with Xorg.
That’s reasonable to directly compare with phones from 2017; it’s slower than a Pixel 2. Mine actually benchmarks a little slower than the reference board linked here.
It isn’t working as it should be if it doesn’t run smoothly on more powerful hardware, but it’s not necessarily a matter of the end user “doing something wrong”. Sometimes it takes effort to get a particular combination of hardware and software to run smoothly even though it should work.
I’ve never had the chance to actually try it on a phone(so only on vm) but Maemo Leste seemed really nice, pretty smooth even on a N900. It seems to be extremely unpopular though, can’t even find a recent video :/
littlebigendian@lemmy.zip
on 04 Aug 13:59
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There NEEDS to be more competition in this space
transebding_the_binary@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 04 Aug 17:56
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I love what postmarket os is doing.
I hope it will be daily drivable in a few years.
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it bothers me immensely that javascript backed Gnome that I can’t make run fluidly and jerklessly on competent desktop hardware is the default on underpowered mobile hardware, making Android and iOS level fluidity practically unattainable in the foreseeable future.
edit: I run pmOS on a SDM845 with 8 GB RAM and fast storage, tried em all on edge (gnome, plasma, phosh, plasma mobile) and it’s a 5 fps stuttering mess. that’s before I load something to said RAM, like a browser or (dog forbid) an electron app.
Javascript isnt the problem, its a problem of priority.
Gnome obviously isnt made primarily for low performance devices.
It will improve over time i think. If the time and efforts of unpaid volunteers continue to be invested into it.
And also idk if you were running with hardware acceleration? Makes a big difference.
gnome’s priroties often seem to be whiteboard ui designs as if those uis designs made sense
My 10 year-old piece of shit laptop manages to run a full GNOME DE flawlessly, with buttery animations.
You are doing something wrong.
10 years ago is like the skylake era. sure, those machines are still pretty quick. can’t really be directly compared to phones…
I was referring to this statement.
My Rockchip 3399 powered former Chromebook (now running proper Linux) from 2017 runs Gnome smoothly with Wayland, not with Xorg.
That’s reasonable to directly compare with phones from 2017; it’s slower than a Pixel 2. Mine actually benchmarks a little slower than the reference board linked here.
It isn’t working as it should be if it doesn’t run smoothly on more powerful hardware, but it’s not necessarily a matter of the end user “doing something wrong”. Sometimes it takes effort to get a particular combination of hardware and software to run smoothly even though it should work.
I’ve never had the chance to actually try it on a phone(so only on vm) but Maemo Leste seemed really nice, pretty smooth even on a N900. It seems to be extremely unpopular though, can’t even find a recent video :/
There NEEDS to be more competition in this space
I love what postmarket os is doing. I hope it will be daily drivable in a few years.