What else should I help seed?
from InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world to linux@lemmy.ml on 27 Jul 2024 02:39
https://lemmy.world/post/17992870

Just a small way to help people get their FOSS. What are some other projects that have torrents that would be good to seed?

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EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 02:41 next collapse

300TBs of zip bombs

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 27 Jul 2024 17:26 collapse

Always put it in a new dir after download

guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jul 2024 02:59 next collapse

EndeavourOS

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 23:08 collapse

Added

riplin@lemm.ee on 27 Jul 2024 03:25 next collapse

At 16kb/s per connection , I think you have to ask yourself if you’re really helping. Have you checked your settings that you aren’t limiting your upload speeds?

Edit: people seem to be offended by this comment, so let me clarify by what I meant with “are you really helping”.

Torrent clients default to a fixed number of peers they download from. If you end up with only 16kb/s connections, you are being limited by those seeders in how fast you can download.

Whereas if there were less seeders but they could provide 1mb/s connections, you are limited by your own internet connection and are downloading full blast.

I hope that clarifies my statement.

Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jul 2024 04:23 next collapse

At 16kb/s per connection , I think you have to ask yourself if you’re really helping

That’s a rather toxic mentality to have. Any amount of help is always appreciated.

[deleted] on 27 Jul 2024 06:23 collapse

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itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Jul 2024 04:52 next collapse

I’d rather have a 16kb/s seeder than a dead torrent

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 27 Jul 2024 07:34 next collapse

For real. I’m slowly downloading a documentary from one person right now, it’s been a few weeks and it’ll be a few more, but I thank them for it

AndrewZabar@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 22:03 next collapse

I have had torrents that ran at extremely low speeds and also intermittently were offline because the seeder ran a colossal seedbox but rotated “inventory” to be able to seed more than just what they could handle at once. So it was rotating content. I downloaded something for almost three months I think. But eventually I got it all. Funny thing was I seeded it for the next like 6 months to help, but literally nobody ever connected, so I felt very fortunate that being apparently the only person who seemed to want the thing, I had found a seeder.

lemmyingly@lemm.ee on 28 Jul 2024 01:00 next collapse

How do you find seeders of rare content?

AndrewZabar@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 01:37 collapse

Well, occasionally I’ll just be lucky enough I’ll try a result on a tracker that says 0 seeds. I try those all the time if I really can’t find a torrent with seeds. Lots of the ones that are seemingly dead, will kick up again at some point. I’ve had a lot of luck with even dead seeds from results on magnetdl.com and bitsearch.to but the latter you really want to have adblocks because they load a dozen of those shitty vpn ads every minute and they’re new window pop ups. Without Adblock I’d never even visit that site. But they have an excellent catalogue so I do use them. Magnetdl used to be my goto but lately they’ve had all kinds of weird cloudflare errors. Cloudflare sucks.

But aside from that and if someone seeds something upon request it’s just blind luck. But my main point I guess would be don’t shy away from links with 0 seeds indicated.

princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 28 Jul 2024 12:12 collapse

If it makes you feel any better, I had a torrent that took about a week to download. 12 months later my ratio is 139 or something. I like to think I resurrected it with the help of that one lone seeder.

AndrewZabar@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 14:32 collapse

No need to feel any better lol none of what I said was troubling. But it’s nice that the torrenting community in general is not just a bunch of leeches. I suspect that is because of the lack of widespread popularity which is good. This should continue to remain a subculture to a certain extent.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 06:52 collapse

same boat, what documentary?

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 28 Jul 2024 11:03 collapse

Under an Arctic Sky. It’s about surfers going to Iceland to… surf, I assume

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 19:46 collapse

tubitv.com/movies/100004335/under-an-arctic-sky?s…

use video downloaderhelper or internet download manager and rip it. this one is 720p, but if you find it on another site, should be able to rip it in 1080p at least.

here it is in 1080p - www.redbull.com/us-en/films/under-an-arctic-sky

i’m also adding this link to my seeds once it finishes - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4e578d0794506d804554b409c5c71db8e3cb48ee

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 02 Aug 2024 21:21 collapse

Thank you so much for that! I’ve been out of the country for a week, will take a look at what’s going on when I get home :)

stewi1914@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jul 2024 07:33 collapse

The torrents include the normal http download URLs and fetch from them too. Official torrents never die.

admin@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jul 2024 06:05 next collapse

You’d be surprised to know that a 500GB hard drive can be theoretically copied in 1 year with a 16kb/s transfer.

narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee on 27 Jul 2024 07:24 next collapse

Torrent clients are usually smart enough to decide what the best seeders are to get the best possible availability and throughput.

OP seeding at 16 KB/s to some peers might also just mean that the leecher’s bandwidth is mostly saturated by other peers so they don’t need that much bandwidth from OP.

AndrewZabar@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 22:00 next collapse

Don’t most clients switch to seeders that deliver faster? Over time, I mean?

Valmond@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 07:43 next collapse

Whereas if there were less seeders but they could provide 1mb/s connections, you are limited by your own internet connection

Gigabit internet connection gang rise up!

princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 28 Jul 2024 12:45 collapse

This feels like you don’t really understand how the BitTorrent protocol works at all. When you watch Netflix, or download proprietary software (for example Steam) you are connected through a CDN to the geographically closest node. That’s one of the main reasons it can be so fast.

However, torrent files aren’t distributed by geographic region, the pool of peers is spread out across the globe. So if someone is on the other side of the earth, your upload speed to them is going to be quite small.

You’re suggesting OP stop seeding because those seeders will be able to download faster, but we literally see just a snapshot. There could be leechers local to OP that come online and have a close, fast seed.

I’m generally seeding at 50-100kB/s, and when I check those connections they’re almost always overseas (qBittorrent resolves the IPs and adds country flags). However, when another Aussie (or a Kiwi, sometimes Indonesians too) leecher connects, it’ll often blow past my (ISPs) 50Mbps upload cap to 160-200Mbps or 20-25MB/s. Are you saying I shouldn’t seed because that way an American or European will be able to download faster? Even though it’s been pointed out to you that it doesn’t even work that way. The BitTorrent protocol was designed from the start to mitigate this by prioritisation of peers on the clientside.

I can’t believe such a toxic and inaccurate comment has this many upvotes.

riplin@lemm.ee on 28 Jul 2024 15:14 collapse

You’re suggesting OP stop seeding because those seeders will be able to download faster, but we literally see just a snapshot.

I suggested that OP check their settings.

Are you saying I shouldn’t seed because that way an American or European will be able to download faster?

Again, that’s not what I am saying at all. Stop putting words in my mouth.

I can’t believe such a toxic and inaccurate comment has this many upvotes.

If you’re looking for a toxic comment, look at your own where you are wilfully misrepresenting my argument, make wild assumptions and then attack those. That’s textbook definition of toxic behavior.

Smoolak@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 04:39 next collapse

You can take a look here: fosstorrents.com

gitamar@feddit.org on 27 Jul 2024 23:34 collapse

Be sure to check the checksum after downloading and check if the release is somehow up to date. They only list raspberry pi os images older than a year

xnx@slrpnk.net on 27 Jul 2024 06:38 next collapse

Wikipedia torrents from kiwix

narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee on 27 Jul 2024 07:28 next collapse

Not FOSS, but a library/archive: annas-archive.org/torrents

Popular Linux ISOs are usually mirrored across a lot of mirrors (duh), so availability is already very good.

jaypatelani@lemmy.ml on 27 Jul 2024 07:40 next collapse

netbsd.org will love that

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 07:43 next collapse

Does anybody download iso’s via torrents? Or how to help the actual sites that serve these? Since I trust the source more than torrents… Especially for an image…

Maetani@jlai.lu on 27 Jul 2024 08:02 next collapse

Verifiying the checksum of an iso takes 30 seconds… You don’t need to trust anyone

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 08:49 next collapse

Been on Linux 6 years, never done it. Extra steps

CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2024 11:17 collapse

Length of time never means quality of decisions. Always best to validate. So easy to package up malware and farm folks bank accounts.

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Jul 2024 19:11 collapse

Hence my threat model hasn’t included torrents.

weker01@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jul 2024 08:58 next collapse

Well you do need to trust the checksum provided. That is the one you are checking against. Better would be a signature from a key you trust.

In the end a modern torrent is just a hash.

Sekki@lemmy.ml on 27 Jul 2024 11:21 next collapse

I don’t think that is even necessary. If you download the .torrent file from a trusted source it will already contain a secure hash of the final file. Also every piece you receive also comes with a hash that can also be verified through the .torrent file. If you don’t trust the source enough to provide a valid .torrent, I don’t see how downloading the image directly from them makes any difference. Read more: Official BitTorrent BEP BitTorrent V2 and SHA-256

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 27 Jul 2024 17:27 collapse

Checksum doesn’t verify authenticity. You need to verify the signature

cantevencode@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 08:43 next collapse

You grab the .torrent file from the source website (Mint, in this case) and it’s safe

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 08:52 collapse

Ahh makes sense. I still direct download but I guess if I had Torrent client locally it might be nice. But 3-4GiB on direct download doesn’t take long…

FierySpectre@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 11:20 next collapse

It’s more of a way to reduce costs for the CDN, using torrents everyone contributes and they only have to send a small magnet file.

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 21:27 collapse

I might seed a few too then.

jrgd@lemm.ee on 27 Jul 2024 16:35 next collapse

For many with unstable ISP connections, http downloads can get corrupted. Torrents are superior in this regard as the file gets split into blocks that each get checksummed for integrity after completion. This helps to ensure that the large iso is actually complete and won’t just be garbage on an attempted install. Even if you checksum the iso from http download, you have to pull the entire thing again if it is damaged whereas the torrent would just repull the damaged blocks automatically.

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 21:26 collapse

Fair. That is a good usecase

LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Jul 2024 13:12 collapse

It doesn’t, but thousands of people all downloading 3-4GB from the same site will put more load on the site. Torrents avoid this issue by downloading little bits from lots of different peers

communism@lemmy.ml on 27 Jul 2024 18:02 collapse

I prefer to download isos via torrents. You can easily check the checksum and signature once it’s downloaded. And you’re getting the torrent/magnet link/etc from the source so it’s not some random torrent from piratebay or something lmao

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Jul 2024 21:25 collapse

Why not direct download from website?

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 23:09 next collapse

I think it saves them costs but idk shit about servers

communism@lemmy.ml on 28 Jul 2024 01:59 next collapse

Can be faster than downloading from a centralised server that everyone is trying to download from. But mostly just habit.

stom@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Jul 2024 13:36 collapse

Avoid detracting from the hosts bandwidth quota.

YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 08:04 next collapse

The Rotating Food Gifs Collection 1-5

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 27 Jul 2024 15:50 collapse

Do you have a link to this torrent? I am very interested.

Blizzard@lemmy.zip on 27 Jul 2024 08:27 next collapse

You’re not seeding properly, check your upload settings or try qBittorrent.

mrvictory1@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 11:10 collapse

OP has acceptable seed ratio on the files near the bottom.

Bezier@suppo.fi on 27 Jul 2024 19:03 collapse

I’m guessing these are all just very recent.

tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world on 27 Jul 2024 18:35 next collapse

new House of the Dragon episodes

SoJB@lemmy.ml on 28 Jul 2024 01:01 collapse

Based

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 28 Jul 2024 00:22 next collapse

oh yeah torrenting them linux isos

bruhduh@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 07:32 next collapse

For projects that is on git system, better automate mirroring to your self hosted git alternative

andrewth09@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2024 13:25 next collapse

🫡

ctag@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Jul 2024 13:47 next collapse

OpenStreetMap: planet.openstreetmap.org

tmpod@lemmy.pt on 28 Jul 2024 21:53 collapse

Nice one!

verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jul 2024 21:44 next collapse

Anna’s Archive can always use help

technom@programming.dev on 29 Jul 2024 15:36 collapse

Is it legal? There may be alternatives with plausible deniability.

verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works on 29 Jul 2024 16:43 collapse

Don’t know, I’m not up on copyright law.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Jul 2024 23:23 collapse

I’m seeding this 24/7. Feel free to join in.

Patriot Front Fascist Leak Exposes Nationwide Racist Campaigns

…unicornriot.ninja/…/patriotfront-repack.torrent