Cross-platform video player GrayJay now available as Flatpak (flathub.org)
from Ulrich@feddit.org to linux@lemmy.ml on 27 May 02:34
https://feddit.org/post/13147966

Compatible with PeerTube. Unfortunately there is no login support but you can search, watch and subscribe to videos in the same feed with youtube and whatever else.

#linux

threaded - newest

monovergent@lemmy.ml on 27 May 02:42 next collapse

Awesome, adding to my current arsenal of alternative clients alongside FreeTube and NewPipe. One less chance for YouTube to force me onto their webpage.

chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 May 03:46 collapse

NewPipe stopped work if you use a VPN, LibreTube instances all gone, Invidious few instances are working but not 100% of time, GrayJay most of time asks for login because Google indicates it is a bot

Dark times to watch Youtube

GluWu@lemm.ee on 27 May 06:58 next collapse

Newpipe currently works fine for me on a VPN. Revanced still works and I haven’t patched it in like a year now. Maybe 1/100 videos with freetube will throw a IP block on VPN and usually I don’t even need to change it, just reload the page. Occasionally freetube stops working for a few days which I can just use librewolf with unlock if I really want.

I’m not having any problems, other than watching too much YouTube.

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 May 07:20 collapse

It depends on the VPN. Google just blocks anything that it knows to be a VPN IP, so if they dont know the IP yet, they dont block it.

HelloRoot@lemy.lol on 27 May 07:36 next collapse

Never had the issue, guess I’m on a good one lol

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 May 08:05 next collapse

Could be regional too or follow some other intransparent pattern.

mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz on 27 May 08:12 collapse

had a very hard time finding mullvad servers that could play youtube, but ivpn doesn’t seem to have that issue at all

anon5621@lemmy.ml on 27 May 09:37 collapse

+1

gay_sex@mander.xyz on 27 May 08:19 next collapse

PipePipe works perfectly for me with a VPN. FreeTube also works, but I have to change the VPN server once in a while.

If all else fails, yt-dlp.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 17:16 next collapse

GrayJay most of time asks for login because Google indicates it is a bot

GrayJay does not ask for login, Google does. It will do the same thing if you navigate to the YT webpage.

gamer@lemm.ee on 27 May 18:12 next collapse

GrayJay most of time asks for login because Google indicates it is a bot

Whenever it does that, I just open the Google login page and start clicking links (like the privacy policy, FAQ, reset password, etc) to “prove” that I’m human. That usually works at least for one video, if not more.

minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 May 09:56 next collapse

I’m currently trying out Pinchflat on my NAS .

Freetube sadly blocks me a lot and having the videos stored locally removes a lot of hassle.

Big_Lem@sh.itjust.works on 28 May 20:06 collapse

IT IS MY VPN WTFFFF. I though id fucked up my pihole triggered some bot prevention on yt via np. yooooooo omg thnx for this comment!

Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works on 27 May 03:30 next collapse

Sweet! Ive made a beta build of it in nix ive been using for the last 4 months and its VERY buggy.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 03:35 collapse

It is indeed, that’s why it’s labeled Alpha.

Cris16228@lemmy.today on 27 May 03:37 next collapse

I wish they did something with the database crash… It’s annoying af

LeTak@lemm.ee on 27 May 04:10 next collapse

Still need something for iOS. Currently I am using the DuckDuckGo browser app with the build in YouTube proxy player.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 04:13 next collapse

We got like a dozen Android YT apps. You should probably just switch.

LeTak@lemm.ee on 27 May 04:15 collapse

Jokes on you, I have a second phone with revanced. I switched to iOS after being on Android from version 2-11. It just would be nice to have it also on the iPhone. Or I quit YouTube, by the time it should be full with AI videos….

gramgan@lemmy.ml on 27 May 05:22 next collapse

Brave works well on iOS for this use case.

Ptsf@lemmy.world on 27 May 19:07 collapse

Harder since Apple bans this sort of gray-area software development in their store. There are some alternatives you can currently side load I believe though, but they require you pay the apple developer tax for a apple developer account last I checked.

sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today on 27 May 04:59 next collapse

And it’s an official flatpak! I’ve been waiting for anything better than that portable junk before.

Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml on 27 May 07:14 next collapse

Cool!

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 27 May 13:32 next collapse

Ugh, bad news

deathbird@mander.xyz on 27 May 14:21 collapse

Why bad?

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 27 May 16:06 collapse

More people using these shitty package managers means more people will download malware

Unlike apt, this doesn’t require signatures

deathbird@mander.xyz on 27 May 16:46 collapse

Fair.

Richat@lemmy.ml on 27 May 16:58 next collapse

Say No to Flatpaks on YOUR Install!

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 27 May 19:14 collapse

Why?

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 27 May 20:14 next collapse

I too feel an unarticulated "ick*, there is something dangerous, along with not really open sourxe license. Can’t quite put my finger on it. Some potential loss of autonomy.

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 27 May 20:56 collapse

Flatpak is a fully open source technology. You’re thinking of Snaps.

CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee on 27 May 20:58 next collapse

I don’t like flatpaks because they never feel cohesive visually on my system.

lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 May 21:47 collapse

Sounds like you (or your distro) setup a portal wrong, they should read your theme configs and settings the same as any native application

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 28 May 16:23 collapse

Because everyone has a problem with something Linux that they think makes them cool.

Blisterexe@lemmy.zip on 27 May 16:58 next collapse

Oh thank god, the tarball wouldnt work when i made a .desktop file for it for some reason

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 17:15 next collapse

Yeah I know a lot of people had trouble with it.

gamer@lemm.ee on 27 May 18:05 collapse

Wow, I thought that was just a weird bug with my system config. It actually started working a couple of weeks ago, but for the longest time I could only launch it by double-clicking it through dolphin lol

hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org on 27 May 15:26 next collapse

I’ve tried pretty hard to make the switch to grayjay but there’s always some snag for me. Sometimes grayjay related, other times service related. I hope the project continues to grow. for the moment I’ll be sticking with newpipe and freetube.

the other futo projects are pretty neat, too. the android keyboard works really well.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 17:11 next collapse

I’m very happy with the mobile version. The desktop is still in Alpha though.

Amaterasu@lemmy.world on 28 May 00:37 collapse

I eco this, I like the app.

I can stream not only YT but also PeerTube videos from content creators that I follow. For me this is the big appeal that GrayJay provides and is pretty much underrated. One can have a centralized video platform with GrayJay.

gamer@lemm.ee on 27 May 18:09 next collapse

Yeah personally I much prefer Freetube’s UI over Grayjay (on desktop at least). For example, the subscription feed has an annoyingly huge list of subscribed channels that takes up like 25% of the screen real-estate, and you can’t hide it. It’s also pointless because there’s another list of your subscriptions on the left side of the screen. It also can’t be launched automatically when opening a YT link with the LibRedirect firefox extension, whereas Freetube can.

But besides design issues like that, Grayjay is much more reliable than Freetube when it comes to bypassing Youtube’s bot protections.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 27 May 20:11 collapse

I love their FUTO voice keyboard input for android

Classy@sh.itjust.works on 28 May 02:31 collapse

Thank you for the recommendation, I just switched everything to FUTO. I’m hoping it well grow to be as accurate as SwiftKey used to be years back…

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 28 May 10:11 collapse

For my main keyboard I use heliboard which I found more similar to SwiftKey. But FUTO has a local voice input which can be coupled to it and is really handy for typing long messages. The main FUTO keyboard supposedly isnt bad either.

ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.ml on 27 May 17:42 next collapse

Just wondering if this can do something that VLC cannot

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 17:51 next collapse

I’ve never even thought of VLC as a streaming media player.

MangoCats@feddit.it on 27 May 17:58 collapse

VLC is my go-to for streaming local IP camera video.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 18:27 collapse

local IP camera video.

What’s that?

MangoCats@feddit.it on 27 May 19:07 collapse

www.amazon.com/s?k=IP+camera

Ulrich@feddit.org on 27 May 19:17 collapse

Dead link

MangoCats@feddit.it on 27 May 21:30 collapse

Search for IP camera, Amazon or wherever you might buy electronics. If the link is dead you probably have Amazon blocked.

gamer@lemm.ee on 27 May 18:04 collapse

I’ll admit I only have a shallow familiarity with VLC, but I’d be surprised if it was capable of doing these things:

  • Subscribe to Youtube channels (plus a bunch of other platforms)
  • Get ‘related’ videos
  • Browse and search individual channels
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 May 18:27 next collapse

For those who aren’t in the loop, if you like to use OSS, this isn’t strictly open source. It is source available.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 27 May 20:09 next collapse

So, can’t fork if they throw users under the bus?

jimmy@feddit.org on 27 May 21:02 collapse

You can fork it, but not for commercial purposes.

nichtsowichtig@feddit.org on 27 May 21:23 next collapse

gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/…/LICENSE.md

interesting, I haven’t seen a licence like that before. I wonder why they didn’t go with good ole GPL, as it prevents restrictive commercial use of software quite well.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 28 May 19:51 collapse

Their logic is that they provide paid software similar to closed source companies, but give you the source code with it.

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml on 28 May 10:19 next collapse

also “you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others.” 🤡

FUTO’s license meets neither the free software definition nor the open source definition.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 28 May 19:25 collapse

Would this license create complication in case someone wants to fork the project ? Usually, this is the safety of using open source software, should the original dev team go rouge, a team of blue dev might assemble and fork the project to at least prevent regression of capabilities.

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 28 May 10:07 collapse

No thanks. The 4 freedoms are essential.

nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip on 28 May 20:06 collapse

Its license is more of forbidding anyone to use it for commercial purpose. People still can fork it for non-commercial purpose.

gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/…/LICENSE.md

It’s not ideal but I won’t blame them. Huge chunk of casual consumer FOSS are distrubuted without permission on mobile, slapping ads and other monetization. Notably, almost all Minecraft clone on Android are based Minetest/Luanti.

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 30 May 04:32 collapse

The GPL already forbids distributing without the source code being available. People who break GPL will break this license too, and they will have even less resources to fight it. I wish people would stop writing their own licenses and just get behind the GPL. There’s already tons of lawyers familiar with it.

Mwa@lemm.ee on 28 May 07:28 next collapse

Cool :)

conspiracypentester@lemmy.world on 01 Jun 19:58 collapse

Holy moly! Size of this app on fdroid is 414.4MB. Why is that?