I started reading that because I want to learn more about systemd and ended up wanting to go back to DOS. Presumably it all makes sense, but when I tried to read it my brain stopped working and my eyes slid off the bottom of the screen.
I don’t know why but I just found it incomprehensible.
This is the beauty of open source. If you wrote an app called “eeznuts” and mad it something everyone needed, eventually a sysadmin somewhere would get to explain that joke to a stiff EVP, and they’d both have a good chuckle about it.
theshatterstone54@feddit.uk
on 11 Jul 20:33
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If you’re a new or intermediate Linux user or sysadmin, you might have felt an odd fascination with the myth of systemd. I invite you to this deep dive into systemd’s nuts and bolts. I’m not gonna beat around the bush: It’s a hairy business, it will be hard, but I promise juicy and satisfying rewards if you keep pumping through this guide.
Let’s start by uncovering the “D” of systemd, the secret sauce that doesn’t get the love it deserves: D-Bus.
Okay, those innuendos have to be intentional!
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 11 Jul 20:56
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syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de
on 12 Jul 09:13
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I’ve very barely dipped my toes in dbus before, and the option to have something else is on its face attractive (not a fan of XML and the late 90s/early aughties style of oop), but JSON for a system interface?
I mean, Kubernetes shows that yaml can work, but in this day and age I’d expect several options for serialisation, and for the default to be binary, not strings.
String serialisations are primarily for humans IMO, either as readers or writers. As writers we want something with comments (and preferably no “find the missing }” game), so for that most of us would prefer something like TOML if the data is simple enough, and actually Yaml for complexity at the level of Kubernetes—JSON manages to be even more of a PITA at that level.
But machine-to-machine? Protobuf, cap’n’proto, postcard, even CBOR should all be alternatives to examine
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
on 12 Jul 10:12
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Why it is a guide, it’s not a visual guide.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Jul 16:25
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article has a typo. opinion discarded.
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Everyday0764@lemmy.zip
on 12 Jul 18:33
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irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Jul 00:45
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That was a lot of really good info. I’ve been having to deal with some more complex systemd configurations at work which has gotten me interested in the subject. This was a really good intro and will help a lot in my own self-hosted activities as well as work.
sebastiancarlos@lemmy.sdf.org
on 13 Jul 01:16
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Thanks bro, just doing my best to keep our kind employed and informed. Long live the machine whisperers
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
on 14 Jul 19:26
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Sorry American readers, we in the real world use soccer metaphors, we are manly like that, even our women
As a European reader I highly doubt all claims in that sentence. refe what?
Actually I would have thought its the Americans that do this.
sebastiancarlos@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Jul 21:03
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Hmm, you must be Germænic or nordic. You know, places in which the soccer ball freezes during winter before the invention of frost resistant turf
ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
on 14 Jul 22:19
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eastern, or middle, depends on how you look at it. orbán is not representative, he’s special
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That title gotta be intentional
the Millie Vanillie of vibe coding if you will…
Systemd is the Kanye West of vibe-coding.
I started reading that because I want to learn more about systemd and ended up wanting to go back to DOS. Presumably it all makes sense, but when I tried to read it my brain stopped working and my eyes slid off the bottom of the screen.
I don’t know why but I just found it incomprehensible.
I have yet to read this, but. But the first part is like the internals of systemd, you won’t immediately need it.
If you want to make use of systemd, you can skip directly to where it explains unit files. You’ll soon see just how much it can do for you
#alwaysHasBeen, but for us graybeards the confusion has been “this is a solution with no problem” and “it’s eaten WHAT now?”
As a proper “gray beard” myself the utility of systemd vs. sys-v init scripts has always been blindingly obvious. 🤷
Great article! This helped me understand a lot more about D-Bus.
systemdeez nuts!
Ha! Gottem.
This is the beauty of open source. If you wrote an app called “eeznuts” and mad it something everyone needed, eventually a sysadmin somewhere would get to explain that joke to a stiff EVP, and they’d both have a good chuckle about it.
Ayyyyy!
Love systemd thanks for the writeup 👍🏽
Okay, those innuendos have to be intentional!
Informative and informal. Love it!
I’ve very barely dipped my toes in dbus before, and the option to have something else is on its face attractive (not a fan of XML and the late 90s/early aughties style of oop), but JSON for a system interface?
I mean, Kubernetes shows that yaml can work, but in this day and age I’d expect several options for serialisation, and for the default to be binary, not strings.
String serialisations are primarily for humans IMO, either as readers or writers. As writers we want something with comments (and preferably no “find the missing
}” game), so for that most of us would prefer something like TOML if the data is simple enough, and actually Yaml for complexity at the level of Kubernetes—JSON manages to be even more of a PITA at that level.But machine-to-machine? Protobuf, cap’n’proto, postcard, even CBOR should all be alternatives to examine
Why it is a guide, it’s not a visual guide.
article has a typo. opinion discarded.
/s
i would read it, if medium allowed me…
archive.is/…/systemds-nuts-and-bolts-0ae7995e45d3
That was a lot of really good info. I’ve been having to deal with some more complex systemd configurations at work which has gotten me interested in the subject. This was a really good intro and will help a lot in my own self-hosted activities as well as work.
Thanks bro, just doing my best to keep our kind employed and informed. Long live the machine whisperers
As a European reader I highly doubt all claims in that sentence. refe what?
Actually I would have thought its the Americans that do this.
Hmm, you must be Germænic or nordic. You know, places in which the soccer ball freezes during winter before the invention of frost resistant turf
eastern, or middle, depends on how you look at it. orbán is not representative, he’s special